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  	<title>Question: It&apos;s never the creepy janitor.</title>
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  	<description>What horror films feature a mystery killer? I like watching cheesy horror movies because for me even the most poorly made ones are entertaining.  My favorite ones are &quot;slasher&quot; films, where a crazed maniac kills off the rest of the cast one by one, usually with a knife.  More specifically, I like slasher movies where the killer is a seemingly normal person who is later revealed to be the killer.  Its fun to try to pick out the killer from the group, because there are always plenty of red herrings and missing details along the way to make it difficult.&lt;br&gt;
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I want to make a list of these kinds of films.  They need to follow these two rules:&lt;br&gt;
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1.  The killer&apos;s identity can&apos;t be revealed until near the end of the film.  Usually this means that the killer wears a mask when he kills people, but sometimes the murders are shot from the killers point of view.  If it turns out there are multiple killers, that is fine too, as long as they are all revealed near the end.&lt;br&gt;
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2.  The normal person that turns out to be the killer must be at least a minor character in the film.  If the character has never been on-screen or just made a cameo appearance as a pizza delivery boy at the beginning of the film, it doesn&apos;t count.&lt;br&gt;
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Here are the films I already have on the list:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076150/&quot;&gt;Alice, Sweet Alice&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0175526/&quot;&gt;Cherry Falls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0331953/&quot;&gt;Club Dread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384286/&quot;&gt;Cry Wolf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097136/&quot;&gt;Cutting Class&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0440441/&quot;&gt;The Graveyard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0297284/&quot;&gt;Mindhunters&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206226/&quot;&gt;Psycho Beach Party&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117571/&quot;&gt;Scream 1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120082/&quot;&gt;2&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134084/&quot;&gt;3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086320/&quot;&gt;Sleepaway Camp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0146336/&quot;&gt;Urban Legend&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192731/&quot;&gt;Urban Legends: Final Cut&lt;br&gt;
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:20:33 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Steven C. Den Beste</title>
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  	<description>The classic of the genre is &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061075/&quot;&gt;Ten Little Indians&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, though it&apos;s not technically a slasher movie as such.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:33:14 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: kickback</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185607</link>	
  	<description>&apos;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069073/&quot;&gt;Perch&#xe9; quelle strane gocce di sangue sul corpo di Jennifer? &lt;/a&gt;&apos; fits the description.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:34:44 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: SuperSquirrel</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185609</link>	
  	<description>I think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082498/&quot;&gt;Happy Birthday To Me&lt;/a&gt; fills the bill, although the synopsis at imdb is thin. I seem to remember being very surprised at the killer&apos;s identity. One of the characters dies by having their scarf sucked into the chain of a motorcycle. Fabulous blood spurts.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:37:18 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: dog food sugar</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185614</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjr5OBnf9j8&amp;feature=related&quot;&gt;Prom Night&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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I must say I particularly liked the creative use of a curling iron in Sleepaway Camp.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:40:53 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: meeshell</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185615</link>	
  	<description>you must see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0492486/&quot;&gt;schrooms&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:42:33 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: grumblebee</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185625</link>	
  	<description>I would call &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://imdb.com/title/tt0070291/&quot;&gt;The Last of Sheila&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; a mystery, not a horror film, but otherwise it fits your bill. It also has the distinction of being co-written by Stephen Sondheim (though it&apos;s not a musical) and Anthony (Psycho) Perkins and its cast includes Richard Benjamin, Dyan Cannon, James Coburn, Ian McShane, Raquel Welch and James Mason.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:54:01 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: rhizome</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185629</link>	
  	<description>I&apos;m not sure how much screen-time the killer has, but I have to throw in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085894/&quot;&gt;The Man With Two Brains&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:05:08 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: biscotti</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185630</link>	
  	<description>The original version of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435625/&quot;&gt;The Descent&lt;/a&gt; (not the US ending, the &amp;quot;alternate&amp;quot; ending). &lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382077/&quot;&gt;Hide and Seek&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080761/&quot;&gt;Friday the 13th&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054215/&quot;&gt;Psycho&lt;/a&gt;, obviously.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:05:38 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185701</link>	
  	<description>You might want to investigate the Italian horror-mystery genre called &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giallo#Film&quot;&gt;Giallo&lt;/a&gt;. Many films in this genre fit your description.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:57:25 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: snap_dragon</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185705</link>	
  	<description>High Tension</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:58:38 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: zerobyproxy</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185714</link>	
  	<description>The Thing.  For many more reasons than one.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:06:38 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: sleep_walker</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185727</link>	
  	<description>Dario Argento&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093677/&quot;&gt;Opera&lt;/a&gt; (a.k.a Terror at the Opera).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:26:16 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Caviar</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185747</link>	
  	<description>It&apos;s an odd twist on this concept, and much more than just a slasher flick, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0114558/&quot;&gt;Strange Days&lt;/a&gt; fits your description.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:45:27 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: cinemafiend</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185763</link>	
  	<description>Seconding the giallo sub-genre.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Some of my favorites include:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Torture_a_Duckling&quot;&gt;DON&apos;T TORTURE A DUCKLING&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenebrae_%28film%29&quot;&gt;TENEBRAE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bird_with_the_Crystal_Plumage&quot;&gt;THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Red&quot;&gt;DEEP RED&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:53:22 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: doncoyote</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1185871</link>	
  	<description>Hmm, the giallo films&apos; lush atmosphere  compensate for their lack of logic.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
For Killer-vision point-of-view, produced by tastemaker &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005307/&quot;&gt;Jon Peters&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;br&gt;
see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077530/&quot;&gt;Eyes of Laura Mars&lt;/a&gt;, starring Faye Dunaway and Tommy Lee Jones, with S &amp;amp;M fashion photography by Helmut Newton. Bad taste never looked so good.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:25:24 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: infinitewindow</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1186003</link>	
  	<description>nthing giallo. My favorite is &lt;i&gt;The Girl Who Knew Too Much.&lt;/i&gt; It&apos;s a great sendup of Rock Hudson, Doris Day and Alfred Hitchcock. Bava and Argento are great directors from this genre.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 20:46:43 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: doncoyote</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1186079</link>	
  	<description>For big-budget slasher mysteries, I&apos;ve just two words for you. Two words. Brian DePalma.&lt;br&gt;
See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070698/&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Sisters  &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;(1973), starring a young Margot Kidder, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080661/&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Dressed to Kill&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (1980) (latter link contains spoilers).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:09:39 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: beerbajay</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1186240</link>	
  	<description>As above, giallo films have a lot of this. In particular, you could watch Mario Bava&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067656/&quot;&gt;Twitch of the Death Nerve&lt;/a&gt; (1971). This predates the &amp;quot;original&amp;quot; slasher film &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/&quot;&gt;Black Christmas&lt;/a&gt; (which fails your criteria for not having the killer appear onscreen).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 05:19:12 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: zebra3</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1186348</link>	
  	<description>One of my favorites is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095379/&quot;&gt;Intruder&lt;/a&gt;, a surprisingly creative slasher film which is tangentially related to Evil Dead* and is set in a supermarket. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
*Written and directed by Scott Spiegel, and cowritten by big-shot producer Lawrence Bender, who has a terrific cameo in this with Bruce Campbell. The cast includes Sam and Ted Raimi, and Dan Hicks from Evil Dead II.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:39:09 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: thebrokenmuse</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1187354</link>	
  	<description>Seven!</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:31:53 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: unceman</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1189399</link>	
  	<description>I would suggest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090655/&quot;&gt;April Fool&apos;s Day&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:42:23 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Caviar</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79898/Its-never-the-creepy-janitor#1189456</link>	
  	<description>It&apos;s been a while since I&apos;ve seen it, but if I recall correctly, Seven (or, more properly, Se7en) does not fit the bill, as the killer is not a character in the movie other than being the killer.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:15:40 -0800</pubDate>
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