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		<title>Question: Pageturners with insightful character development?</title>
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		<description>I&apos;m looking for novels that are pageturners (genres preferred: science fiction/fantasy, magic realism, mystery/suspense/thriller) but also have psychologically acute character development. Any recs?</description>
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		<dc:creator>Malad</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: cocoagirl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175562</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0552997773/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Sparrow&lt;/a&gt;, by Mary Doria Russell and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812508645/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus&lt;/a&gt; by Orson Scott Card come to mind.</description>
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		<title>By: thomas j wise</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175567</link>	
		<description>Try Ian Rankin&apos;s Inspector Rebus series.  Reginald Hill&apos;s Dalziel &amp;amp; Pascoe, ditto (although, admittedly, some of the recent novels have not quite qualified as page-turners).  Hill&apos;s stand-alone &lt;i&gt;The Stranger House&lt;/i&gt; is also strong on both fronts.  John Banville&apos;s recent &quot;literary thriller&quot; &lt;em&gt;Christine Falls&lt;/em&gt; (published under the pseudonym Benjamin Black) fits your bill, too.  And I was quite impressed by James Ellroy&apos;s &lt;em&gt;The Black Dahlia&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:56:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wilko</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175570</link>	
		<description>The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant have a few considerably developed characters, and meaty themes. Some readers balk at Donaldson&apos;s dodgy prose style and heavy-handedness however.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:57:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daily Alice</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175571</link>	
		<description>Dick Francis is my favorite mystery novelist, and he tends to have his protagonists reflect on their psychology and motivations a lot.  You might enjoy &lt;em&gt;Reflex, Odds Against, Whip Hand&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;Come to Grief&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:58:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Divine_Wino</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175577</link>	
		<description>Tim Powers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:04:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: edgeways</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175590</link>	
		<description>I would venture Donaldson&apos;s books are not exactly &quot;page turners&quot;, they have some strong points going for them, but they are difficult reads. (imo)&lt;br&gt;
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Actually, try an oldie, Alfred Bester&apos;s, &lt;em&gt;The Demolished Man &lt;/em&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demolished_Man&quot;&gt;wiki&lt;/a&gt;, might contain spoliers), was reissued a few years back. Heck of a book.&lt;br&gt;
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Gene Wolfe&apos;s &lt;em&gt;There are Doors&lt;/em&gt;, is a lot easier then most of his stuff and pretty good, Some of Michael Swanwick&apos;s short story stuff might do you good as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:20:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paragon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175598</link>	
		<description>Seconding Tim Powers, especially &lt;em&gt;The Anubis Gates&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Snow Crash&lt;/em&gt;, Neal Stephenson&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier &amp;amp; Clay&lt;/em&gt;, Michael Chabon</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:31:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mollweide</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175601</link>	
		<description>The Lies of Locke Lamorra by Scott Lynch.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:34:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nax</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175605</link>	
		<description>Anything by Ursula Leguin.  Really meet your criteria well:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ursulakleguin.com/Bookshelf02.html&quot;&gt;The Dispossessed and The Left Hand of Darkness&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:36:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: porpoise</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175625</link>	
		<description>I was quite impressed with Piers Anthony&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarnations_of_Immortality&quot;&gt;Incarnations of Immortality&lt;/a&gt;. Each book follows (mainly) one new incarnate as they get to know their jobs and there&apos;s quite a high level of character development as they grow and mature.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:48:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mblue</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175653</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1857231384/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Consider Phlebas&lt;/a&gt; was recommended by an (unfortunately) forgotten MeFite in a similar thread. I belatedly second.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:12:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kingjoeshmoe</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175662</link>	
		<description>The Song of Ice and Fire series, by George RR Martin, is a standard answer to this question.  Longest page turner I&apos;ve ever seen, but a page turner nonetheless.  And really great character development.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:16:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rtha</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175675</link>	
		<description>Carol O&apos;Connell&apos;s Mallory novels - start with &lt;em&gt;Stone Angel&lt;/em&gt;, though that&apos;s not the first in the series. Mallory is a NYC cop, an acknowledged sociopath who was mysteriously orphaned at a young age (Stone Angel helps clear that up).&lt;br&gt;
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Giles Blunt&apos;s novels - start with &lt;em&gt;Forty Words for Sorrow&lt;/em&gt;. They take place in a small town in Canada. They&apos;re pretty disturbing and pretty great.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ll probably be back as more things occur to me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:29:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lunasol</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175694</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/71030/Im-afraid-of-a-book&quot;&gt;The Historian&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:42:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HeartandSoul</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175701</link>	
		<description>I would recommend a different Donaldson series.  The Gap Into Conflict which starts with The Real Story.  An awesome sci-fi story with great character development.  This is the one...</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:46:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zero Gravitas</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175779</link>	
		<description>I second &lt;em&gt;Consider Phlebas&lt;/em&gt; wholeheartedly. As a matter of fact, I&apos;d recommend any of Iain (M) Banks&apos; books as fitting your criteria. I also recommend Ian Irvine&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Well of Echoes&lt;/em&gt; series.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:05:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: quiet</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175817</link>	
		<description>I really like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dendarii.com/&quot;&gt;Lois McMaster Bujold&lt;/a&gt; for her characters. I&apos;ve always described them as psychologically astute, which may be similar to what you&apos;re asking for. And I always read them to excess.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:00:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: worldswalker</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175825</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m most familiar with his Recluce books, but I&apos;ve heard that the Corean Chronicles are very good as well, so I&apos;d recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lemodesittjr.com/&quot;&gt;L.E. Modesitt, Jr.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:12:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Soliloquy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175840</link>	
		<description>Seconding Lois McMaster Bujold.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:28:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dogrose</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175846</link>	
		<description>I think you&apos;d like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.litencyc.com/php/sworks.php?rec=true&amp;UID=16821&quot;&gt;A Dark-Adapted Eye&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:36:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: salvia</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175899</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not sure anyone would consider Robertson Davies a page-turner, but I liked The Deptford Trilogy&apos;s look at people&apos;s characters.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:05:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: philomathoholic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175930</link>	
		<description>&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/3948/&quot;&gt;plot and character driven sci-fi&lt;/a&gt;&quot; from &lt;a href=&quot;http://mssv.net/wiki/index.php/ReadMe&quot;&gt;ReadMe&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:38:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zarkonnen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175971</link>	
		<description>I was going to recommend Lois McMaster Bujold, but alas, I am reduced to 3rding.&lt;br&gt;
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They&apos;re both near-impossible to put down and have very believable, complex characters who genuinely change with time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:21:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Life at Boulton Wynfevers</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1175998</link>	
		<description>Jonathan Lethem is your go to guy for this. &quot;Motherless Brooklyn&quot; is a literary thriller about a private detective with Tourette&apos;s, and it&apos;s brilliant IMHO. A lot of his other stuff has a sci-fi bent, &quot;As She Climbed Across the Table&quot; being one example. &quot;The Fortress of Solitude&quot; (which I&apos;ll admit to finding tedious, but other people have loved) has a small element of magic realism about it.&lt;br&gt;
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&quot;Cloud Atlas&quot;, David Mitchell. This roams through history, the present day, the future and the far future. Not a perfect fit to your requirements, but I enjoyed it immensely.&lt;br&gt;
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Peter Hoeg&apos;s &quot;Miss Smilla&apos;s Feeling for Snow&quot; is another literary thriller.&lt;br&gt;
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&quot;Everything is Illuminated&quot; by Jonathan Safran Foer (there are two narratives in this, one of which is magic realist).&lt;br&gt;
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Salvador Plascencia&apos;s &quot;The People of Paper&quot;. More magic realism. I haven&apos;t read this yet (it&apos;s on the list). So not a recommendation as such, but it sounds good to me. Another one on the list is David Markson&apos;s &quot;Wittgenstein&apos;s Mistress&quot; about a woman who is, or believes herself to be, the last person alive on earth; so it could fit depending on your definition of sci-fi.&lt;br&gt;
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Perhaps, also, &quot;The Time Traveller&apos;s Wife&quot; by Audrey Niffenegger. Not a full-blooded recommendation from me on this one. It&apos;s a page-turning, time-travelling love story, but I found the protagonists themselves a little dull if I&apos;m honest.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;Woah, long comment. Sorry to go on so...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:13:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Life at Boulton Wynfevers</title>
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		<description>Oh, one more: &quot;Heroes and Villains&quot;, Angela Carter. Sci-fi, post-apocalyptic setting, and it&apos;s by Angela Carter (which makes it automatically good in my book).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:21:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: damiano99</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1176023</link>	
		<description>To Your Scattered Bodies Go.&lt;br&gt;
by Jose Farmer.&lt;br&gt;
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It has to be one of the best sci-fi/fantasy series ever.  I place it right next to the Dune series by Herbert and Heinlein&apos;s Lazarus Long series.&lt;br&gt;
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Absolutely, freaking, incredible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:35:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chunking express</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1176065</link>	
		<description>Cryptonomicon is awesome.  There is so much shit going on.  It&apos;s very entertaining.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:24:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mblue</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1176253</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt; damiano99&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Jose Farmer can&apos;t out wait Lazarus for obvious reasons.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:24:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dizziest</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1176423</link>	
		<description>In addition to Wittgenstein&apos;s Mistress, David Markson actually wrote some detective novels early on in his career, and two of them have recently been reissued by Shoemaker and Hoard. Definitely recommended: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1593761341/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Epitaph for a Deadbeat and Epitaph for a Tramp&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;
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You might also want to try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/015603137X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;PopCo&lt;/a&gt;, by Scarlett Thomas. &lt;br&gt;
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And you can&apos;t go wrong with Jonathan Lethem.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:12:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kid Charlemagne</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1176474</link>	
		<description>Vernor Vinge&apos;s &quot;Marooned in Real Time&quot; and &quot;A Deepness in the Sky&quot;.&lt;br&gt;
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My favorite chapter in all of science fiction is in Marooned.  The hero, on emotion surpressing drugs, reads a page of text in which terrible lies are told about him and then muses what his reaction might be, were he in his right mind.&lt;br&gt;
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I also like Brinn&apos;s &quot;Kiln People&quot;.&lt;br&gt;
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Have you looked at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.literature-map.com&quot;&gt;this?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:02:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kid Charlemagne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pwally</title>
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		<description>The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:59:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pwally</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Malad</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1176777</link>	
		<description>These are great recommendations so far. Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:40:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malad</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mwang1028</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/79187/Pageturners-with-insightful-character-development#1176859</link>	
		<description>(Obviousfilter?) Can&apos;t talk about Orson Scott Card and not mention &lt;u&gt;Ender&apos;s Game&lt;/u&gt;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:37:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mwang1028</dc:creator>
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