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	<title>Comments on: Why do sugars like to cyclize in solution, thermodynamically speaking?</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:02:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Why do sugars like to cyclize in solution, thermodynamically speaking?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/78436/Why-do-sugars-like-to-cyclize-in-solution-thermodynamically-speaking</link>	
		<description>What is the correct &lt;i&gt;thermodynamic&lt;/i&gt; explanation for the fact that all monosaccharides with 5 or more backbone carbon atoms occur predominately in their cyclic form in solution?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:31:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>perissodactyl</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: grouse</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/78436/Why-do-sugars-like-to-cyclize-in-solution-thermodynamically-speaking#1164594</link>	
		<description>Is this a homework question?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:02:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: perissodactyl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/78436/Why-do-sugars-like-to-cyclize-in-solution-thermodynamically-speaking#1164603</link>	
		<description>Nope.  Reviewing for a final exam and I can&apos;t seem to dig up an answer I trust.  It seems to me that one part of the answer is that free energy is going to be lower when there are more bonds (as in the cyclic form).  But I&apos;m wondering if there are other factors I&apos;m not considering.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:14:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: perissodactyl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/78436/Why-do-sugars-like-to-cyclize-in-solution-thermodynamically-speaking#1164607</link>	
		<description>Specifically, I&apos;m wondering how to explain this behavior in terms of entropy.  &lt;br&gt;
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The five-carbon lower bound is easy to understand... fewer carbons and you&apos;ve got too much ring strain for the cyclic form to be favored.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:18:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quietgal</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/78436/Why-do-sugars-like-to-cyclize-in-solution-thermodynamically-speaking#1164621</link>	
		<description>Well, entropy and free energy are usually (always?) in opposition and entropy usually loses.  If the free energy of a ring is lower than the free energy of the linear form, it will beat the lower entropy of a constrained ring (fewer degrees of freedom to flap around = lower entropy).&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbs_free_energy&quot;&gt;Gibbs&lt;/a&gt; tells us that every system seeks to minimize its free energy, not necessarily maximize its entropy.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;biochemist, not physical chemist - for more detail I refer you to your local P Chem department&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:31:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: meehawl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/78436/Why-do-sugars-like-to-cyclize-in-solution-thermodynamically-speaking#1165079</link>	
		<description>Water likes to be next to water. A ring creates the lowest entropy stable boundary between the polyS and the water that does not require continual conformational transactions to adapt. It&apos;s a minimum within the solution space of all possible configurations of that molecule within that environment. It&apos;s the same reason why hydrophobic residues in complex proteins will tend to seek the centre of a spheroid protein macromolecule.&lt;br&gt;
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This link goes into more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/hydrat.html&quot;&gt;details about solute interaction than I needed to know&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:37:57 -0800</pubDate>
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