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      <title>Comments on: Browser makes incorrect requests.</title>
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	  	  <pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:56:21 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>Question: Browser makes incorrect requests.</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests</link>	
  	<description>My browsers frequently try to load the wrong page. They invent  web addresses based on other open pages.  What&apos;s happening? I don&apos;t think it&apos;s spyware. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; For example, in trying to load Ask.Mefi, Firefox tried to load http://www.metafilter.com/content/themes/onion/style/tabber.css (I had recently closed The Onion). I&apos;ll sometimes get CSS templates or favicos instead of the page I&apos;m looking for. Generally, the third refresh loads the page properly.&lt;br&gt;
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This happens in Firefox 2.0.0.9 (safe mode and normal) and IE 6. I haven&apos;t noticed problems with other Internet programs. Multiple spyware scans reveal nothing. Other computers connected to the same router are fine. I&apos;ve reinstalled Firefox. My system is Windows XP SP2.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:57:07 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Yogurt</dc:creator>
	
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  	<title>By: jeffamaphone</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139632</link>	
  	<description>FireFox and IE use two completely different http stacks.  IE using wininet.dll and, well, I dunno what FF uses but it uses something else.  They share virtually no components, so I can&apos;t really think of anything that would be a common cause here other than spyware of some sort.  &lt;br&gt;
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I would suggest upgrading to IE7, and then try starting it in No Add-ons mode (Start-&amp;gt;Programs-&amp;gt;Accessories-&amp;gt;System Tools-&amp;gt;IE (no add-ons)).&lt;br&gt;
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You can also try installing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/&quot;&gt;Fiddler&lt;/a&gt; and poke around in the http request for clues, but it sounds like stuff is going wrong earlier on.&lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;re more advanced, you can run IE under NTSD and set a break-point on wininet!HttpSendRequestA and wininet!HttpSendRequestW and try to navigate IE.  When it hits the break point look for suspect DLLs on the stack.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:56:21 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>jeffamaphone</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Yogurt</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139671</link>	
  	<description>Thanks, I&apos;ll try Fiddler first. I&apos;m not familiar with NTSD, but I&apos;ll see if there are some guides around.&lt;br&gt;
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It occurs to me that I haven&apos;t tried browsing in Windows&apos; safe mode, which might give more clues. Both browsers would have to pass through a software firewall (Kerio), PeerGuardian and perhaps other stuff I&apos;ve forgotten. I&apos;ll try eliminating some of them, and running more spyware scans too.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:26:26 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Yogurt</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: jeffamaphone</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139688</link>	
  	<description>NTSD ain&apos;t simple.  You&apos;ll need to download the win32 sdk and make sure you run the NTSD from there, not the one that comes with windows (because that one sucks).&lt;br&gt;
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Before you run it, set this environment variable:&lt;br&gt;
_NT_SYMBOL_PATH=SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols&lt;br&gt;
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Then run tasklist and get the PID for ie.  Run ntsd -p [pid] to attach the debugger.&lt;br&gt;
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Once the debugger window appears, type !symfix and hit enter.  Then .reload to load all the symbols from the sympath set above.&lt;br&gt;
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Then use the bp command to set the breakpoints:&lt;br&gt;
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bp wininet!HttpSendRequestA&lt;br&gt;
bp wininet!HttpSendRequestW&lt;br&gt;
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Then type g to get the process running again.&lt;br&gt;
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Now navigate the browser.  The debugger should break in right away.  Type k1000 to get a stack trace.&lt;br&gt;
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Good luck!</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:34:51 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>jeffamaphone</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: jeffamaphone</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139690</link>	
  	<description>Of course, if you might not be able to get symbols from microsoft&apos;s symbol server over HTTP due to your issue... which would suck.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:35:51 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>jeffamaphone</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: jeffamaphone</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139692</link>	
  	<description>Another thing you can try is running process explorer and try hunting down spyware yourself.  It has a great rightclick-&amp;gt;google feature for hunting down nasties.&lt;br&gt;
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Get it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/processexplorer.mspx&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:37:34 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>jeffamaphone</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: DarkForest</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139698</link>	
  	<description>If it were me, I&apos;d check the windows hosts file. I&apos;d try a simpler browser, like lynx, or another browser, like Opera. I&apos;d try booting a linux live disk and try browsing from that. Google or post back if you want more details.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:42:30 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>DarkForest</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: chorltonmeateater</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139701</link>	
  	<description>What Firewall do you use? I had (fairly) similar behaviour plague my machine, until I realised Kerio Sunbelt Personal Firewall was to blame, somehow corrupting my entire internet connection. Instead of a web page loading, I&apos;d get a random image from that page or other weirdness, so the symptoms sound similar to yours. Uninstalling it cured the problem.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:45:23 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>chorltonmeateater</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Yogurt</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139732</link>	
  	<description>I&apos;ve tried Ubuntu just for fun and didn&apos;t notice any browsing problems, so it does seem like a Windows problem.  I haven&apos;t had a chance to try Safe Mode yet, but will very shortly.  &lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ll try lynx too.&lt;br&gt;
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The Windows Hosts.ics and lmhosts.sam file are all commented out. &lt;br&gt;
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I have ProcessExplorer. Just checked now and don&apos;t see anything unexpected. I have hijackthis too -- are there any automated log-examiners for that program?&lt;br&gt;
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NTSD looks pretty advanced for me. I&apos;ll save it for a last effort (although I planned on finally doing a clean install in the new year anyway, so maybe THAT&apos;s the last resort). How sucky is the built-in NTSD? Would those commands not work on it?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:58:00 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Yogurt</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Yogurt</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139735</link>	
  	<description>Hmm, chorltonmeateater, I use the same firewall and have the same problem -- random images is another symptom. I&apos;ll test that right away.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:59:08 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Yogurt</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Yogurt</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139745</link>	
  	<description>Turning off Kerio Sunbelt Personal Firewall and using the Windows firewall instead seems to have fixed the problem. It&apos;s hard to say for sure, but a quick five minute tour of usually problematic sites has produced no errors.  I&apos;ll try for another fifteen minutes and then mark that as the answer if things check out.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:04:41 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Yogurt</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: chorltonmeateater</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139750</link>	
  	<description>@ Yogurt: hope that&apos;s helped. By the way, if you end up trying to find an alternative firewall, give Comodo a miss (despite many recommendations all over the web). It freezes every hour or so taking your internet connection with it (well, it did for me at least). Very annoying.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve had absolutely no hassle or problems with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pctools.com/firewall/&quot;&gt;PC Tools Firewall Plus&lt;/a&gt;, which is free, so I&apos;d recommend that as a replacement if you decide that that&apos;s the answer to your woes.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:07:06 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>chorltonmeateater</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: Yogurt</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1139793</link>	
  	<description>Turning off Kerio Sunbelt Personal Firewall fixed the problem. What&apos;s more, some sites that I used to think were just very slow are now loading normally.  Thanks for the help, chorltonmeateater and everyone!</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:37:04 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>Yogurt</dc:creator>
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  	<title>By: evariste</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76694/Browser-makes-incorrect-requests#1140310</link>	
  	<description>The &amp;quot;Sunbelt&amp;quot; is pronounced &amp;quot;Scientology&amp;quot;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:32:58 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>evariste</dc:creator>
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