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	<title>Comments on: Well, it can't be worse than Chicago</title>
	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago/</link>
	<description>Comments on Ask MetaFilter post Well, it can't be worse than Chicago</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:05:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Well, it can&apos;t be worse than Chicago</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago</link>	
		<description>Moving to Toronto: got an apartment, now what about cable, internets, phone? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I&apos;m moving back to Toronto in December.  What are my options for TV, data and phone?  Based on responses to the question posted last February, I&apos;ll probably use Rogers for cable and internet (unless someone can give me a compelling reason not to), but I have no idea which wireless provider to use.  I prefer to use a cell phone over a landline or VoIP, but I&apos;m also considering more advanced hand held devices.  Has something like Helio made it to Canada yet?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:59:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TheWhiteSkull</dc:creator>
		
			<category>Toronto</category>
		
			<category>moving</category>
		
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		<title>By: GuyZero</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1130477</link>	
		<description>It can be worse than chicago. If you go with Rogers for your wireless in addition to cable and internet you can save $5 or $10 a month. The only other real choice is Bell (Telus is the same physical network as Bell in Ontario).&lt;br&gt;
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Both Bell and Rogers have absolutely shit rates compared to the US. If you plan to use a wireless phone from your apartment you should ask friends to see which has better coverage where you are.&lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;re going to travel to Europe a lot, get Rogers, as they&apos;re GSM (Bell is not).&lt;br&gt;
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Fido may be a bit cheaper than Rogers, but since they got bought it&apos;s the same physical network (Rogers &amp;amp; Fido).&lt;br&gt;
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Canada is essentially a wireless duopoly these days, with the associated crappy prices.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:05:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>GuyZero</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dobbs</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1130525</link>	
		<description>If you do any Bittorrenting, don&apos;t go with Rogers. They cap the torrent portals. They deny it, but it&apos;s been proven many times online.&lt;br&gt;
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I recommend Teksavvy for your internet. They&apos;re terrific!&lt;br&gt;
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I use Fido because I hate Rogers and Bell. The service is fine but I wish there were more options.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:32:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dobbs</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ewiar</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1130724</link>	
		<description>You realize Fido is Rogers, right?&lt;br&gt;
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Hence why I canceled my Fido account [shakes fist]...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:16:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ewiar</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gesamtkunstwerk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1130864</link>	
		<description>I second dobbs on Teksavvy and on Rogers capping torrent portals. &lt;br&gt;
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As for phones: nobody really likes Rogers/Fido, but they do work better than Telus, particularly if you travel around the country.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:19:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gesamtkunstwerk</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: avocet</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1130881</link>	
		<description>thirding teksavvy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:32:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>avocet</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pantheON</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1131077</link>	
		<description>Fourthing Teksavvy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:42:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pantheON</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dawdle</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1131112</link>	
		<description>go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://redflagdeals.com&quot;&gt;rfd&lt;/a&gt; and search the threads or post there... good deals on all services mentioned there...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:29:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dawdle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chunking express</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1131384</link>	
		<description>TekSavvy is fucking awesome.  I would have the company&apos;s babies if I could.  Holy fuck they are so good.  Call them up and a real live person will answer the damn phone.  Fuck yeah.&lt;br&gt;
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I use Fido for my cell phone, but as others have noted, they are owned by Rogers now, and really don&apos;t have the cool plans they used to.&lt;br&gt;
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I download all my television, so I can&apos;t help you there.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:54:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chunking express</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: winston</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/76080/Well-it-cant-be-worse-than-Chicago#1136195</link>	
		<description>Another vote for Teksavvy. In any case, there are over 50 ISPs who can give you a high-speed internet in Toronto. Rogers and Bell are the most expensive, have the most restrictive terms, and the worst customer service.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:24:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>winston</dc:creator>
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