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	<title>Comments on: Privatized firefighting in California?</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:53:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Privatized firefighting in California?</title>
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		<description>Were private insurance companies putting out fires for their high-end customers during the recent California wildfires? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I just heard Naomi Klein (author of &lt;i&gt;The Shock Doctrine&lt;/i&gt;) in a radio interview say that people in California reported seeing private firefighting units (working, specifically, for AIG) attempting to save the homes of their clients while the surrounding houses burned. Has anyone seen anything in the media confirming this? Anecdotal evidence from eyewitnesses?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:44:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jaimev</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124393</link>	
		<description>LA Times &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-richfire26oct26,1,1661626,full.story&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; on &quot;concierge level&quot; fire protection.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:53:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: phoenixy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124394</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/28/us/28idaho.html&quot;&gt;This is not quite the same, but related.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:53:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empyrean</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124397</link>	
		<description>Well, I know this happened &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2007/08/23/news/top_story/119026.txt&quot;&gt;in Idaho recently&lt;/a&gt;. We may have even had a discussion about it on this site, but I can&apos;t remember where/when.&lt;br&gt;
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Possibly conflated? Or maybe AIG had crews in California, too, I&apos;m not sure.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:53:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notyou</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124402</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=af3wCbWHvK4w&amp;refer=home&quot;&gt;Look Here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:57:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>notyou</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: growabrain</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124403</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:6StuXEkm0ZsJ:www.venturacountystar.com/news/2007/oct/27/private-companies-offer-fire-protection/+fire+mitigation+services+to+its+high-end+customers&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=us&quot;&gt;Some property owners and even an insurance company are finding new ways to protect homes in fire-prone areas like Ventura County, either by purchasing personal fire-retardant systems or by hiring private crews that come out and add supplemental foam shields in advance of the flames. Some of the services can cost thousands of dollars&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:58:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notyou</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124406</link>	
		<description>This bit is interesting:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Until 1865, when the Metropolitan Fire Bridge Act was passed in the U.K., insurance companies had their own firefighters and were responsible for protecting their customers&apos; homes and other buildings. That was the case in other countries as well, including the U.S. Customers were given medallions to place on their homes, and firefighters would look for their insurance company&apos;s ``firemark&apos;&apos; before extinguishing a blaze.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:59:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kadin2048</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124469</link>	
		<description>In some old/historic areas, you can still see the &apos;firemark&apos; plates on old houses. There are a few very old buildings in Old Town Alexandria, VA, that have them. They look very similar to the &quot;historic building&quot; plaques that most old buildings have, but if you look closely they&apos;re much older. The house lived in by George Washington (pretty much unavoidable on any walking tour of that area) has one prominently displayed.&lt;br&gt;
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I found &lt;a href=&quot;http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/Baranoff.Fire.final&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; interesting, and I don&apos;t think it&apos;s been mentioned so far.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:39:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Doohickie</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1124625</link>	
		<description>Yeah, I remember seeing firemarks on old buildings when I was visiting England.  That was actually how homeowner&apos;s insurance started if I remember the story right.  You paid a private firefighting company to protect your home; if it burned down they paid you to build a new one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:12:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jessamyn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/75672/Privatized-firefighting-in-California#1125131</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;[a few comments removed -- putting a derail in small text does not make it not a derail. please don&apos;t do that. Start a MeFi thread or email some folks.]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:08:20 -0800</pubDate>
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