Comments on: Where are people going now that Oink is gone?

Question: Where are people going now that Oink is gone?

hazyspring — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:14:51 -0800

Where are people going now that Oink is gone? Is there anything that compares?

By: ReiToei

ReiToei — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:19:44 -0800

Oh no! Dammit, that's the end of the best music site on the internet.

I dunno... Mininova?

By: zennoshinjou

zennoshinjou — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:27:19 -0800

Demonoid has what I'm looking for maybe 6 of 10 times, but nothing compares to Oink.... especially for FLAC nerds (not me). Hopefully they are as crafty as these other sites that have been attacked of late.

By: ijoyner

ijoyner — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:34:49 -0800

indietorrents has files not tracked by the RIAA (an actual requirement of the site) but the hard part with that site is getting an invite and keeping a ratio up with so few users.

By: bobot

bobot — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:40:56 -0800

usenet has always been there for you.

By: melorama

melorama — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:43:15 -0800

It's too bad Usenet no longer exists. That used to be the single best (and safest) way to get tons of great and obscure music. Maybe one day some new technology will replace The Usenet, but until then I guess it's back to buying CDs...like in the old days.

By: arimathea

arimathea — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:00:45 -0800

Usenet via any number of automatic binary aggregators (Easynews, etc.)

By: hjo3

hjo3 — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:04:11 -0800

I can't believe it's dead. *sigh*

There are some private FTP servers with pretty wide selections. 'Course, you usually have to brave IRC to find 'em. And maintaining your ratio is a lot harder.

By: StickyCarpet

StickyCarpet — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:04:26 -0800

How does one get a login to demonoid?

By: roofus

roofus — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:11:20 -0800

We discussed only two days ago the reasons why we don't discuss ways of infringing copyright. It's incredibly easy to freely download music and films on the internet, so why ask about it here?

By: the cuban

the cuban — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:21:34 -0800

Where are people going now that Oink is gone? Is there anything that compares?

I doubt anyone will reveal the super-secret torrent sites on a public form...

By: hjo3

hjo3 — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:30:16 -0800

Roofus-- You don't seem to fully understand what OiNK was. Many of the things they offered weren't "freely" downloadable. Most of OiNK's appeal was that they had torrents of very obscure audio and music in lossless formats. Sadly, I don't think an adequate substitute exists right now.

Also, people can use these sites and services to share CC-licensed/public domain/etc. files. Asking where one can download music doesn't necessarily imply an intent to infringe anyone's copyright.

By: jmd82

jmd82 — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:35:57 -0800

IRC's a good way to go if you can find a good server. Always preferred it to other methods.

Nowadays, a google search of the artist and/or track + torrent usually does the trick.

By: ofthestrait

ofthestrait — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:42:48 -0800

hjo3, OiNK specifically did not allow material that was "freely available" on their servers -- in other words, everything on the site was by definition pirated material.

My best guess is probably demonoid. But just because the tracker is shut down doesn't mean those files from OiNK are lost, they're just scattered on computers. Someone will come along and reunite them eventually.

By: rpn

rpn — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:48:55 -0800

Soul seek used to be good to find obscure/less popular music, but I stopped using it when oink came along. Don't know how it works these days.

By: awesomebrad

awesomebrad — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:20:44 -0800

http://www.stmusic.org/ - this might be good.

Perhaps if people have invites to demonoid, supertorrents, indietorrents etc we can set up a MeFi exchange?

By: tmcw

tmcw — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:33:19 -0800

hjo3, OiNK specifically did not allow material that was "freely available" on their servers -- in other words, everything on the site was by definition pirated material.

Not to drag this on, but OiNK did have a good number of legal bootlegs, so its content was, say, 90% copywritten.

By: grouse

grouse — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:45:02 -0800

OiNK did have a good number of legal bootlegs, so its content was, say, 90% copywritten.

Unless it's really old, even a permitted bootleg will still be under copyright protection. The difference is that the copyright holders may have given you permission to use it.

By: cortex

cortex — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:02:53 -0800

[A few comments removed. There's now an oink obit thread on the blue; take general discussion there, keep responses here focused on the question.]

By: boreddusty

boreddusty — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:44:25 -0800

Here's a very interesting post-OiNK-related idea.

Basically, since OiNK is no longer around, you can't violate the "don't upload our torrents to other trackers" rule that was in place. Which means that really any public trackers should be getting hit with a deluge of torrents.

By: humuhumu

humuhumu — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:17:00 -0800

No, there is nothing that compares to Oink. There are plenty of private trackers around and some of them are music-focused (like stmusic, pedro's, etc) but there is nothing - and probably never will be anything again - like Oink in terms of size, scale, breadth of coverage, speed, users, etc.

By: mullingitover

mullingitover — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:08:38 -0800

humuhumu writes "No, there is nothing that compares to Oink. There are plenty of private trackers around and some of them are music-focused (like stmusic, pedro's, etc) but there is nothing - and probably never will be anything again - like Oink in terms of size, scale, breadth of coverage, speed, users, etc."

I thought the same thing after audiogalaxy went opt-in, but eventually Oink showed up. Something else will come along eventually.

The more you tighten your grip, the more music buyers will slip through your fingers...

By: zsazsa

zsazsa — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:18:44 -0800

I'd be wary of Demonoid. I've heard using it is a good way to get a boilerplate nastygram from the RIAA or MPAA. They do watch the site.

By: theora55

theora55 — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:48:03 -0800

Start checking out music blogs and finding free, legal music. The sooner the traditional music industry is killed off, the better, especially for the musicians who have been screwed for years, and certainly for music lovers.

By: hjo3

hjo3 — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:37:18 -0800

hjo3, OiNK specifically did not allow material that was "freely available" on their servers -- in other words, everything on the site was by definition pirated material.

Setting aside the fact that you're wrong, that's not what I (or the person I quoted) meant by "freely." Freely -- as in, easy to get. Not "freely" re: price.

By: tksh

tksh — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:17:25 -0800

Canadian IPs are banned from Demonoid anyways. Not that I would know.

By: p3t3

p3t3 — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:22:33 -0800

A forum was recently set up to answer this question (among other things).

By: systematic

systematic — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:55:38 -0800

mullingitover: I was literally just saying your comment about audiogalaxy to someone. I _still_ miss audiogalaxy. I hope we don't have to wait as long this time.

By: geoff.

geoff. — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:16:24 -0800

Word on the street is that Oink is coming back, with original servers and all, to a different country.

By: yeoz

yeoz — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:40:22 -0800

Another word on the street: BOiNK which is going to be run by the pirates bay folks. [via]