Comments on: What's the best stout?

Question: What's the best stout?

vorfeed — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:49:05 -0800

I'd like to try some new beers. What's your favorite stout?

I'm not a big fan of most other beers, but I like stout. In particular, I like Murphy's over Guinness, and another I really like is Sheaf Stout.

Any recommendations? Extra points for things you can find in the average well-stocked liquor store, extra-extra points if it's less than $3 a bottle.

By: ludwig_van

ludwig_van — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:53:01 -0800

Rogue's Shakespeare Stout.

By: Raybun

Raybun — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:53:51 -0800

Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout. Might require some searching.

By: carrienation

carrienation — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:55:15 -0800

Bell's has some fabulous ones--their Double Cream Stout is one of my all-time favorites (though only available Nov.-Mar.), and their Kalamazoo Stout is awfully good too. I'm also partial to Young's Double Chocolate Stout, which is getting easier to find these days.

By: middleclasstool

middleclasstool — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:55:16 -0800

Young's Double Chocolate Stout and Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout are double plus good.

If you like stouts, you might try branching into porters as well, which are similar. Both Anchor and Boulevard make daaamn tasty porters.

By: omphale27

omphale27 — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:01:17 -0800

I am a HUGE fan of the Cooper's stout. Also, although not a stout, it's a WONDERFUL dark ale, I highly recommend the Hobgolin Ale from the Wychwood brewery. It looks like Wychwood has a stout, but alas, I have never had the chance to try it.

By: PFL

PFL — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:01:42 -0800

I'll nth Sam Smith Oatmeal Stout. And if you do venture into porters, I like Anchor Porter and Highland Oatmeal Porter.

By: melorama

melorama — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:01:55 -0800

Doubling Sam Smiths Oatmeal Stout. A lovely beverage.

By: cerebus19

cerebus19 — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:03:11 -0800

Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is excellent. Plus, it's economical, as once you've drunk a bottle of it you won't need to eat anything for a day or two.

By: Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America

Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:04:17 -0800

I like North Coast's Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout, Victory's Storm King stout, all of Rogue's stouts (chocolate, imperial, and Shakespeare), and Deschutes' Obsidian Stout.

None of these are as sweet as Sheaf (except the Rogue chocolate), and tend to be maltier than Murphy's, but they're all good.

If you want to exceed your $3/bottle limit by $9 or so, Dogfish Head's Worldwide stout is well worth trying. Be careful, though, because it's almost 20% abv.

By: Marit

Marit — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:04:45 -0800

I love the Sam Smith oatmeal stout. It is ever so delicious. Ipswich Ale Oatmeal Stout is also tasty -- I see it at every liquor store around here, even the teeny ones, tho. perhaps it is a New England thing?

By: middleclasstool

middleclasstool — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:06:22 -0800

I should add that I've had a Young's Double Chocolate Ice Cream Float, and may I say YUM.

By: fidelity

fidelity — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:15:49 -0800

You know, Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is pretty good.

By: Greg Nog

Greg Nog — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:19:54 -0800

Sam Smith's is good, but it's kind of sweet and thick, so I usually only have it as a dessert-beer. Alongside some vanilla ice cream, it is a lovely sweet treat.

Stone brewing company (makers of Arrogant Bastard Ale) makes a really, really good Smoked Porter. I think that might be my favorite dark beer. Its crisp and smoky in a really well-balanced way that goes marvellously with Autumn weather.

By: sprocket87

sprocket87 — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:20:32 -0800

Not that I need to bother, but Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout is quite tasty ;-)

But I actually prefer Samuel Smith's Imperial Stout. I'm a sucker for good Imperial Stouts, and their's is among my favorites. Give it a try - Sammy Smith's sells a sampler pack that has 4 unique pints, 4 pint glasses, and coasters. It's a good deal, and you can usually find it around the holidays.

For a real kick, try some Java Stouts, like Southern Tier Imperial Jah-va stout. It's 12% ABV and only comes in 22oz bottles (AFAIK), save the rare draft version. It's thick like motor oil, delicious on so many levels, and will knock you on your tail if you're not careful :)

By: eralclare

eralclare — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:25:39 -0800

If you do branch into porters, my ol' standby is Black Butte Porter (go Deschutes!). If you are anywhere near a McMenamin's you should try their Terminator and Black Rabbit stouts (on nitro, if possible). If you're working your way into stouts, try the Terminator/Ruby--Rubinator. DELICIOUS (I think it's better than either of the components on its own).

By: munchingzombie

munchingzombie — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:25:43 -0800

Victory's Storm King owns me. Give it a try.

By: nat

nat — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:27:28 -0800

Not a stout, I think it's actually closer to a schwarzbier, but very tasty anyhow..Death and Taxes.

(Also that site generally has really *thorough* beer reviews. Might find other useful things there!)

By: dseaton

dseaton — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:33:56 -0800

If you can find it, I like Moat Mountain Square Tail Stout, it's creamy with hints of chocolate and coffee. Not unlike the aforementioned Rouge Shakespeare Stout. I don't know how widely available it is outside of New Hampshire, though.

By: 1f2frfbf

1f2frfbf — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:34:36 -0800

Highland Mocha Stout is my A-Number 1 favorite for cold winter evenings.
(their Oatmeal porter is very nice too, if you want something a touch lighter)

Duck Rabbit Milk Stout is also very good.

Yes, I happen to enjoy going to NC to drink craft beer, why do you ask?

By: dreadpiratesully

dreadpiratesully — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:55:11 -0800

Brooklyn Black might be my favorite. I'm also a fan of Old Rasputin, and the Rogue and Victory stouts previously mentioned are quite good.

By: utsutsu

utsutsu — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:56:12 -0800

Stir Stick Stout by Half Pints Brewing Co.

Unfortunately, as far as I know, it is only sold in Manitoba.

By: dreadpiratesully

dreadpiratesully — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:01:48 -0800

Oh, and also, even though it's not a stout, you should definitely try the Stone Smoked Porter that Greg Nog mentioned. It's very, very good.

By: ecrivain

ecrivain — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:05:12 -0800

There are so many good stouts, it's impossible to pick one favorite. If you like Murphy's, you might also like Beamish Irish Stout. Others have mentioned Sam Smith's Oatmeal, but they also make an Imperial Stout that's quite good, if you want something stronger. I'll also add to the choir of people suggesting anything by Rogue or Stone Brewing. Some others you might want to try:
Avery Out of Bounds Stout - a decent dry stout
Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout - like a glass of chocolate cake
Lefthand Milk Stout - odd taste, like malted milk
Old Dominion Oak Barrel Stout - nice vanilla flavor, incredibly smooth
Thirsty Dog Siberian Nights - a Russian Imperial stout, strong, dark, and rich

As other said, you might also want to explore the world of porters. But that's a whole different list.

By: i_cola

i_cola — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:09:20 -0800

If you can get hold of it, Dark Star Espresso Stout from Sussex.

By: tommasz

tommasz — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:33:01 -0800

More votes for Young's Double Chocolate and Sam Smith's Oatmeal.

By: strangeleftydoublethink

strangeleftydoublethink — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:44:37 -0800

St. Peter's Cream Stout is another of my favorites.

By: breaks the guidelines?

breaks the guidelines? — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:54:28 -0800

I like Old Rasputin and Heavy Seas' Peg Leg. Terrapin's Wake and Bake is also good, as is the Brooklyn Black. My favourite, though, is my own personal recipe, which I call "Joshua Norton Double Imperial Stout."

By: glip

glip — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:58:24 -0800

No idea if it is distributed anywhere near where you are, but st.ambroise oatmeal stout is among the best stouts I've had. Also I'll n^th St.Peter's Cream Stout.

By: crinklebat

crinklebat — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:30:26 -0800

If you're in the mood for rich, chocolatey goodness, I recommend the Tatonka Stout at BJ's. That's assuming they have them where you live, of course.

By: porn in the woods

porn in the woods — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:30:28 -0800

Moylan's Imperial Stout is wonderful. It's a heady 10% ABV brew, but it is smooth and richly complex.

Unlike other imperial stouts (Rasputin's comes to mind), it doesn't taste like someone's sunk a shot of Wild Turkey in your pint.

By: ourobouros

ourobouros — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:55:50 -0800

Old Rasputin has my vote. Words that come to mind: woodsmoke, espresso intensity, 90% Lindt chocolate bar. It's definitely way, way over the top and I love it.

By: LobsterMitten

LobsterMitten — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:15:15 -0800

Seconding the St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout. It's like molasses, chocolate, coffee, wintry deliciousness.

By: Large Marge

Large Marge — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:45:07 -0800

The Devout Stout from Santa Cruz mountain brewing. I believe whole foods carries them now, and some other bay area markets

By: mollweide

mollweide — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:24:10 -0800

I'm not sure if you can get where you are, but Wolaver's Organic Stout hits all the right buttons for me, and I'm very picky about stouts. Unlike the imperial stouts, it's light enough to have more than one, yet it has the requisite sweetness to balance out the bitterness and acidity of the roasted malts that make stouts dark. (Can you tell I'm not a fan of dry Irish stouts, like some famous ones I won't mention?).

I also strongly recommend Bell's stouts. Any stout they make is excellent, and they're the main reason I'm upset that I had to leave the Upper Midwest. Think I'll go console myself with a Victory Storm King Stout.

By: TheOtherGuy

TheOtherGuy — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:06:14 -0800

Hofbrau Dunkel.

Not technically a stout.. just a very dark beer. But goes down very well :)

By: Packy_1962

Packy_1962 — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:48:26 -0800

"Rogue's Shakespeare Stout." wow ludwig_van, you love stealing my beer glory huh? Anyway, it's a nicely complex but classic stout.

By: gueneverey

gueneverey — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:05:26 -0800

Seconding Cooper's! Enthusiastically! It's what first made me realize I like stouts more than other types of beer.

By: altcountryman

altcountryman — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:25:26 -0800

Mackeson Stout is really good. It's a British recipe, but according to wikipedia, it's actually brewed here in the States now.

By: Ber

Ber — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:34:24 -0800

Many good recommendations here but I am not sure if all of them get distributed to NM. I am betting that at least some of the California stouts do like Sierra Nevada which is a fine example of the style. You might also keep an eye open for Anderson Valley's Oatmeal Stout. Or Mendocino County's Black hawk, the aforementioned Rasputin.

All said, Rogue's Shakespeare Stout is the best there is. This is not opinion, this is fact. :D

By: jlowen

jlowen — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:34:28 -0800

Oh wow. The dark beer enthusiast subsection of metafilter. I have found my home. I never want to leave.

By: Wolof

Wolof — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:15:13 -0800

Coopers all the way for me; but then I would say that, I'm from Adelaide.

By: croutonsupafreak

croutonsupafreak — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:59:48 -0800

Nth-ing Rogue.

By: baphomet

baphomet — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:41:32 -0800

Bell's Double Cream Stout will convince you of flavors of bitter that you never even thought possible. It is truly a delightful, heavenly, transcendent substance.

By: baphomet

baphomet — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:45:34 -0800

Also one that hasn't been mentioned but is easier to acquire than some that have, Sierra Nevada's stout is a nice nutty brew that is pleasant and accomodating.

Also, you mentioned preferring Murphy's to Guiness, which is a decision I entirely respect (although respectfully disagree with), but have you tried the Guiness Extra Stout? It's the stuff that doesn't come with a widget in the bottle. Quite a bit different than their other bottled/canned attempts to bottle the deliciousness of something that can only be truly enjoyed on tap, from someone who knows how to pour it.

By: codswallop

codswallop — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:13:38 -0800

Seconding McMenamin's.

Y'know, they make a milkshake with that stout? Un-freaking-believeably good.

By: vorfeed

vorfeed — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:15:04 -0800

Thanks for all the answers. Some of these I've already tried: I do indeed like Beamish (had forgotten the name of that one) and the Double Cream/Chocolate stouts, but I wasn't impressed with St. Peter's Cream Stout. Looks to me like I'll have to try Sam Smith's Oatmeal and Rogue's Shakespeare Stout next!

baphomet -- I formed my opinions on the relative merits of Guinness and Murphy's on a trip from Dublin to Cork, so it's not based on the bottled versions. :) That said, I do like Guinness a hell of a lot, just not quite as much as Murphy's and Beamish. The latter have a smoother aftertaste, somehow.

By: obiwanwasabi

obiwanwasabi — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 23:47:32 -0800

Forget Coopers - the best Australian-brewed stout is Southwark Old Stout.

By: Greg Nog

Greg Nog — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:48:24 -0800

So this thread may be over and done with, but I feel I need to point out for any stout-lovers: Cape Ann just released their second-ever batch of Pumpkin Stout. I had their first batch last year at a beer convention, and loved it, but they only made about ten barrels' worth. Hopefully, they made more, this year.

You'll probably only be able to find it in the Northeast (it's brewed in Mass, and I get it at the Barcade here in New York), but it's definitely worth a try. It's very well-balanced, with the pumpkin giving just a hint of flavor to the smoky darkness of the stout. Aside from the high ABV (6.8, if I recall correctly), it's one of the few beers that I can continue drinking for hours at a time, with no changing brews for the sake of variety. I love it.

By: vorfeed

vorfeed — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:43:43 -0800

Follow-up: I tried both the Sam Smith's Oatmeal and the Shakespeare Stout. I like the latter a lot more than the former, but neither is what I was looking for. They both seem too smooth/mild to me -- I'm looking for a stout with more bite to it.

At any rate, I will try some of the other suggestions, and there's always good ol' Sheaf and Murphy's!