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	<title>Comments on: Out, out, damn dust!</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:03:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Out, out, damn dust!</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust</link>	
		<description>City dwellers! How do you dust? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I live in New York City, but I assume this issue can be found in any big, dirty city. &lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m the tidy sort, and I generally dust and vacuum and clean 3-4 times a month. But the dust that accumulates in my apartment is a whole other kind of dust than what I&apos;m used to. There is a lot of it, which I expect. But ... it&apos;s black. And it&apos;s &lt;i&gt;sticky&lt;/i&gt; - for example, when I wipe my windowsill with my usual method of damp, clean rag, the dust doesn&apos;t get picked up, it&apos;s just smears around at most. It takes persistant attacking with cleaner, numerous rags, and sometimes, for goodness&apos; sake, scrubbing. What is this madness?&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve tried Swiffers - no better (and I don&apos;t like paying for them). I&apos;ve tried vacuuming first - not great. And keeping my windows closed is a winter-only option, as I would much rather dust more often than use an air conditioner. I just want a better dusting option.&lt;br&gt;
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Any and all help - different materials, home-made ideas, etc - much appreciated. Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:48:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>minervous</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: sueinnyc</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1066986</link>	
		<description>When I lived in NYC (a couple of blocks from the location in your profile), I used to have the same black dust and the same problems.  I used liquid cleaner (Mr. Clean, to be precise), diluted in a big bucket of water as per the directions.  It was still tricky, but that seemed to work pretty well.</description>
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		<title>By: sueinnyc</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1066987</link>	
		<description>I should clarify that I applied it and rinsed with a cloth.  Perhaps that was obvious, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:04:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Justinian</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1066989</link>	
		<description>I live in Los Angeles and this is a constant thorn in my side.  This black crap gets everywhere.  I imagine that includes our lungs, unfortunately.&lt;br&gt;
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I never have found a great solution except elbow grease, same as you.  Not a completely satisfactory answer and I&apos;ll be watching this thread in case someone has a better solution, but scrubbing is the only thing that works for me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:06:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: charlesv</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1066994</link>	
		<description>Have you considered buying an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping.com/airpurifiers.html?CMP=KNC-pkgoap-030107&amp;HBX_PK=air+purifier&amp;HBX_OU=50&quot;&gt;air purifier&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:16:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bunnycup</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067007</link>	
		<description>I also live in NYC and had the same horrid dust problem, exacerbated by living on a ground floor, corner (facing 2 streets) apartment with 2 dogs.  &lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve had an air purifier for about 2 weeks, and it HAS helped, already.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:31:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: minervous</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067040</link>	
		<description>Great suggestions, all, thanks. &lt;br&gt;
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Bunnycup and Charlesv - any specific recommendations? I hadn&apos;t thought of using an air purifier because I rather assumed they were for people with allergies or pets, not for getting rid of dust and dirt. Any more info is appreciated.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:55:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: frieze</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067046</link>	
		<description>I found that those fancy &quot;ionic breeze&quot; style purifiers were pretty useless, while a big honking HEPA filter one worked pretty well. YMMV but I&apos;d say get one of those hatbox shaped ones they sell at home depot. Not super expensive and do suck up a lot of dust.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:59:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bunnycup</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067057</link>	
		<description>Mine is a Bionaire, an ionic breeze type standing-tower, which claims to have &quot;HEPA type filtration efficient at removing airborne particles such as pollen, dander, household dust, smoke, and mold spores.&quot;  One advantage is that the filters are incredibly easy to clean - pull it up and run a vacuum along it.  I picked it up for $150 at the Target at Atlantic Center, which seems a good price for the model after comparing online just now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:09:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gemmy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067104</link>	
		<description>Ah, yes. This stuff is the bane of my existence, particularly on window blinds. Washington, D.C. here, but we get the same city dust too.&lt;br&gt;
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I use Murphy&apos;s oil soap diluted in water with a good low-lint cotton dust rag that can be washed in the laundry and reused. Mostly because Murphy&apos;s is good as a de-greaser, which I think is what&apos;s making it extra sticky, but also because I like the smell. If it gets really, really bad (if I go out of town for a long period, say) then it&apos;s Lemon Clorox Clean-up time. That stuff will almost peel paint off windowsills, though, so I use it sparingly if I can.&lt;br&gt;
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In a small apartment with lots of books, I also get a ton of &quot;normal&quot; dust, and that&apos;s what Swiffers are for - mostly to keep my electronics and books dust free, but I&apos;ve found that Swiffers are worse than normal rags on the black, sticky stuff.&lt;br&gt;
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I had been considering an air purifier anyway, but here is apparently another reason to buy one...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:22:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brujita</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067195</link>	
		<description>Demand that management put in double glazed windows and make the point that you&apos;re paying more than enough as it is. My rental on CPS had single-glazed casement windows with the same problem--and leaks!-- management  told me the first time I complained that the rent would go up if the windows were replaced, then told me the Landmarks Commission wouldn&apos;t allow it. The woman I spoke to at LC told me that as long as the replacement  windows closely resembled the existing ones  there would not be a problem. By that time I had bought a condominium and was about to leave. My new place has double glazing, grit is no longer an issue--but noise still is.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:00:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarabic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067208</link>	
		<description>Hmm. Exhaust soot. Best not to think of it as dust. Think of it as dirt. I lived near a freeway for a while and had to deal with this slow, black particulate snow on my windowsills and surfaces everywhere. You need a wet cleaning to truly remove it. Perhaps a good scrubbing with a vacuum cleaner&apos;s brush-hose will work on some surfaces.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:26:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lyn Never</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067329</link>	
		<description>I swear by my microfiber cleaning cloths (Miracle Cloth at BB&amp;amp;B, but every store&apos;s got some version in the cleaning aisle now).  They get greasy stuff up in the kitchen with just warm water and maybe occasionally a spritz of cleaner, and I haven&apos;t found any other household dirt they can&apos;t cope with.  I really only use paper towels for pet mess now, and they are miles better than rags or bar mops.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:26:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twoporedomain</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067334</link>	
		<description>While I haven&apos;t found a method that doesn&apos;t require a fair amount of elbow grease, I found that plain old Windex (or equivalent) works better than any other surface cleaner.  But I will be trying Murphy&apos;s oil soap now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:40:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jek</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067335</link>	
		<description>For a natural clean air boost try to plant some flowers or plants in your windowsill. It does a good job of filtering some of the dust and city dirt. Helps my dust issue in the city but granted will not solve problem 100%.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:42:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: minervous</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067365</link>	
		<description>Murphy&apos;s Oil Soap! Brilliant. &lt;br&gt;
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An off-line friend offered this suggestion when I told her about this question - she suggested getting glass or acrylic cut to size and putting it down on the windowsills. Not only a good barrier against leaking from flowerpots and open windows during rainstorms, but easier to clean, too. &lt;br&gt;
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Thanks again, everyone. I appreciate your great suggestions.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:57:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DenOfSizer</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067408</link>	
		<description>Move to Queens, baby!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:57:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: occhiblu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71630/Out-out-damn-dust#1067418</link>	
		<description>Dr. Bronner&apos;s castille soap is also great for degreasing and cleaning up these kinds of things (dilute a little in hot water, or on a very wet rag and then ring it out).  I use the lavendar and it makes the house smell nice, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:20:23 -0800</pubDate>
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