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	<title>Comments on: Bus tours and vacation packages</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:05:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Bus tours and vacation packages</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71226/Bus-tours-and-vacation-packages</link>	
		<description>Bus Tours in U.S.A.

I am looking for vacation packages (for destinations like
grand canyon, yellowstone park) from sanfrancisco/bayarea  similar to this one

http://www.gotobus.com/vacation/

http://www.lassentours.com/

Can people share their experience if they had gone
through such tours.

Are they worth for the money paid for ? Do we get
to see these places well ? Can we say that the
experience will be enjoyable

Are there any other tour operators apart from above
which are good ?

The main reason, i am prefering such tours, is the convenience... 

The price seems to be quite reasonable too...

Thanks for your time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:42:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lychee</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71226/Bus-tours-and-vacation-packages#1061665</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t speak for tours going from California to the Grand Canyon, but I took one from Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon (West Rim) last week over Labor Day. I was satisfied with everything, no problems. Only a few minor caveats about these types of bus tours:&lt;br&gt;
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1.) The bus driver is on a schedule; if he gets delayed for whatever reason, including the tour company&apos;s fault, you pay for it in time lost visiting your destination. &lt;br&gt;
2.) Because they are on a schedule, you have to be proactive in planning out your time so that you get to see what you want to see.&lt;br&gt;
3.) A lot of times their add-ons can be purchased cheaper at your destination or through the actual rafting/hiking/helicopter/etc. company itself. My friend and I paid for the cheapest Grand Canyon West Rim bus tour so we could go on the Skywalk. The tour company&apos;s Skywalk Adventure was $40 extra, and the day of they told us our package didn&apos;t allow the Skywalk as an add-on on our package. We arrived at the West Rim and were able to purchase tickets at the Skywalk itself for $27 each.&lt;br&gt;
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All in all, these types of tours bundle convenience at a decent price at a bit of a sacrifice for time and bargains. Good luck and have fun.</description>
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		<title>By: PercussivePaul</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71226/Bus-tours-and-vacation-packages#1061673</link>	
		<description>With bus tours in general, some people like them and some people don&apos;t.  You won&apos;t get much time at each attraction.  For example look at this:&lt;br&gt;
Day 6 Kanab - Grand Canyon - Zion National Park - Las Vegas:&lt;br&gt;
For me that seems like a lot for one day.  Each of these parks easily warrants a multi-day trip on its own.&lt;br&gt;
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I did a weekend trip to Yosemite once (not bus).  There is a famous lookout called Tunnel Point or something like that; it gives a breathtaking view of the valley with Half Dome in the middle.  Me and my friends were hanging out there when a tour bus pulled up.  30-odd people spilled out.  A tour guide shouted, &quot;OK, TWO MINUTES!&quot;  Three-deep at the lookout railing, they stood around vacantly, many snapping photos. Five minutes later they all vanished, and the lookout was empty and peaceful again.  &lt;br&gt;
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My bias is showing through.  Oh well.  Before signing up for any kind of bus tour I would think carefully about how much time I want at each attraction and make sure the tour met those needs.  I would hate to feel rushed when I&apos;m watching the sunset over the grand canyon or somethign like that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:14:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PercussivePaul</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71226/Bus-tours-and-vacation-packages#1061714</link>	
		<description>Bus tours aren&apos;t totally evil. They&apos;re good to see a lot of places quickly, so you can come back to the ones you like.  You can&apos;t stay longer at the places you like, but you don&apos;t stay long in the places you hate.  So, ok.  &lt;br&gt;
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They are best if you go with people you know you travel well with, because they&apos;re no fun at all if you don&apos;t like the group.  And one irritating person can make your vacation suck. &lt;br&gt;
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A good bus tour has multi-day stays, because they&apos;re a lot more hectic if you have to pack every morning, and drive to somewhere every night.  The optional activities are where they make their money... if you ever see &quot;free afternoon at the Grand Canyon to see the sights&quot;, that&apos;s code for &quot;$50 donkey rides&quot;.  And everyone on the tour does them, because of peer/tour guide pressure and &quot;I&apos;ll only be here once&quot; syndrome.  You can easily spend 50% on top of the tour price on extras.&lt;br&gt;
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Anyways, another option is something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trekamerica.com/&quot;&gt;Trek America&lt;/a&gt;.  They are more of a camping trek outfit, but they do have hotel tours.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trekamerica.com/tours/cyb.html&quot;&gt;For instance&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s a slower schedule.  And it&apos;s only a 13 person van, instead of a 50 person bus, which means you don&apos;t overwhelm every place you visit.  And smaller groups can stay in better hotels.  (The camping tours are awesome too, but that&apos;s a different sort of thing.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:44:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mayor Curley</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71226/Bus-tours-and-vacation-packages#1061719</link>	
		<description>If you do not like or don&apos;t have a lot of patience for elderly people, you will not enjoy a bus tour. Many of the patrons will be retired people.&lt;br&gt;
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I used to work in a hotel that catered to bus tours. The tourists were about 80% 65+, 15% 40-65 and 5% under 40. Some of the younger people were traveling with their 60+ parents and enjoyed it. People who were younger than middle-aged and traveling with friends or significant others either took their elders in stride and had a blast or were totally miserable. Ask yourself honestly if this is for you. If it is, it&apos;s a relatively inexpensive and easy way to see a region.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:49:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mayor Curley</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/71226/Bus-tours-and-vacation-packages#1061725</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://us.contiki.com/tours/america&quot;&gt;Contiki&lt;/a&gt;.  18-35 age limit.  Because  Mayor Curley is right.  &lt;br&gt;
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Of course, 18 year olds are no fun either... at least on the US tours it&apos;s a little harder for them get smashed every night.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:57:19 -0800</pubDate>
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