Comments on: Can you recommend good post-apocalypse novels?

Question: Can you recommend good post-apocalypse novels?

h00py — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:52:47 -0800

I've just read a classic SF novel and I'm looking for some other titles in a similar vein.

I've just finished reading "A Canticle for Leibowitz" by Walter M Miller for the first time and really enjoyed it. I remember having enjoyed the whole post-apocalyptic thing for a while there when I was devouring SF in my teens and twenties (back before the war*) but can't recall many titles from that time and, of course, I'd like to find some new stuff. Your recommendations, please!

*Gulf War Mach I

By: JohnR

JohnR — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:56:34 -0800

Moving Mars ,Greg Bear

By: bkeene12

bkeene12 — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:08:13 -0800

I read "A Canticle for Leibowitz" and found it very interesting. A long time before that, back when I was about 8 years old I read "Cataclysm: The Day the World Died". Whereas I can' vouch for how good it would be today, I thought it was pretty cool at the time.

Basically, you have some interesting ecological problems and for some reason mankind begins to revert back to de-evolving into pre-historical types of man while the earth is transforming itself at the same time. There are some pretty good descriptions of all the devastation and how the world is changing because of this along with some perplexing concepts to think about.

By: lekvar

lekvar — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:19:48 -0800

You might try Engine Summer by John Crowley.
Possibly Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood.

By: gemmy

gemmy — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:20:18 -0800

Classics:
The Death Of Grass (aka No Blade Of Grass) by John Christopher
Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham
On the Beach by Nevil Shute

New:
The Road by Cormac McCarthy

By: dhruva

dhruva — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:30:13 -0800

The Forever War by Joe Haldeman

By: bibliowench

bibliowench — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:34:24 -0800

Amnesia Moon by Jonathan Lethem

By: escabeche

escabeche — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:49:02 -0800

Children of Men, if it's as good as the movie.

By: media_itoku

media_itoku — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:02:09 -0800

Kim Stanley Robinson's Orange County trilogy. Each book is a different version of the same place: one utopian, one dystopian, and one postapocalyptic (The Wild Shore, which is the best one, in my opinion). Robinson can be a bit preachy (he's big on the whole town hall meeting as an answer to all problems) but the trilogy is food for thought - especially if you're a Californian!

My personal fave is Russell Hoban's Riddley Walker, but it does require a certain amount of commitment to language.

By: jamjam

jamjam — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:12:51 -0800

Davy by Edgar Pangborn. A very similar feel to Leibowitz, without the religion, and written in the same era, but much more of a picaresque adventure novel. Set 250 years after the apocalypse.

Empire of the East by Fred Saberhagen; I think Saberhagen is one of the greatest science fiction authors of any era, and most days I am prepared to claim this as his zenith. It was originally published as a trilogy over a period of time, and at first seems pure swords and sorcery, but quickly grows into much more than that. It's almost as vividly written as A Song of Ice and Fire, and has considerable philosophical-- even theological-- depth.

By: rfs

rfs — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:14:21 -0800

Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank
Tomorrow! by Philip Wylie

By: HuronBob

HuronBob — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:23:46 -0800

I have to second the "Day of the Triffids" recommendation.. the book , or the movie...

good stuff.....

whatever you choose, have fun... the classic sci-fi is wonderful!

By: LairBob

LairBob — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:35:31 -0800

Riddley Walker. Damn...that is a fine, abstruse, challenging, awesome book. Not for the faint of heart, but still--one of those books that tears up your head. (I haven't read The Road yet, but Blood Meridian had the same kind of mesmerizing effect for me. That one's not sci-fi, but the same kind of thing in a different genre.)

By: mr. remy

mr. remy — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:41:17 -0800

Riddley Walker seconded. I don't know if it's a 'good' book by any normal definition ... but it's certainly a memorable one, and a fascinating read. Author Russell Hoban is a cool guy, too.

And it's maybe a bit cliché as a suggestion, but how about David Mitchell's 'Cloud Atlas' ?

By: h00py

h00py — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:44:48 -0800

Recommendations from any genre are welcome (just so long as the bombs, comets, viruses and/or well anything else really have fallen!)

By: rjt

rjt — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:45:10 -0800

Not recommendations per se but, predictably, wikipedia has an extensive list which might help you remember stuff you enjoyed last time around.

And not a book, but Threads ^{^} is worth a couple of hours of anyone's time.

By: willnot

willnot — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:54:35 -0800

Maybe something like Parable of the Sower.

By: mediareport

mediareport — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:56:58 -0800

This comes up regularly here:

I would like recommendations for "end of the world" fiction books.

I love Post Apocalyptic Genre books and movies. Can you recommend some?

My step-mom...is wanting to read about post-apocalyptic societies. Anyone have any ideas?

By: Ironmouth

Ironmouth — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:01:34 -0800

Gene Wolfe The Shadow of the Torturer (from the Book of the New Sun)

By: nanojath

nanojath — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:02:00 -0800

Go Nuts.

Books I've read and thought were okay - Deus X by Norman Spinrad and . Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. The Drowned World by J.G. Ballard. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Phillip K. Dick. This is the Way the World Ends by James Morrow (sort of preachy but interesting). A lot of stories by Harlan Ellison, all of his short story collections are good for at least one or two. A Boy and His Dog, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, and The Deathbird are three of the most famous.

By: Large Marge

Large Marge — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:04:15 -0800

HARLAN ELLISON I HAVE NO MOUTH AND YET I MUST SCREAM AND A BOY AND HIS DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously, Harlan Ellison is quite conceited, but his fiction is amazing.

The Road by Cormac McCarthy is good, although I fancied Blood Meridian more.

By: contraption

contraption — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:09:09 -0800

"Dhalgren" by Samuel R. Delaney is one of my favorite books ever and features a similarly cryptic blend of mystic significance and post-apocalyptic dystopianism.

I happened upon "A Canticle for Leibowitz" in a big box of pulpy sci-fi my dad brought home from a garage sale when I was 13 or so. Awesome book.

By: nicwolff

nicwolff — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:13:48 -0800

Thirding Riddley Walker and seconding Engine Summer.

Scott Westerfeld's Uglies, Pretties, and Specials (and forthcoming Extras) are set after an environmental cataclysm that reduces human population drastically.

My favorite book of all is Walter Tevis' Mockingbird, which describes the rediscovery of reading after we've let the robots take over all intellectual labor.

By: Locative

Locative — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:46:08 -0800

The Chrysalids (also called Re-Birth) by John Wyndham is also really good (and thirding the recommendation for Day of the Triffids.)

By: kindall

kindall — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:06:24 -0800

Emergence by David R. Palmer is right up your alley.

By: Infinite Jest

Infinite Jest — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:14:16 -0800

Maybe some Philip K Dick? Deus Irae? Do Androids Dream...even?

Short story: There Will Come Soft Rains (forget the author).

Children of Men, if it's as good as the movie.

Some spoilers ahead.

Really.

Very different; still interesting in its way. But very little sense that civilization is actually, you know, collapsing. The book is written from an explicitly Christian POV (not saying that's a bad thing) to critique the decline of Christian beliefs in the contemporary West (or at least England). It's very genteel; the characters wander around museums and farmers' markets around Oxford, having nice middle class lives (somehow they're still able to buy imported foods from everywhere, because all world societies seem to be functioning pretty well). The film is much darker and IMHO much better. (Certainly a lot more likely to match the OP's interests than the book does).

By: jet_silver

jet_silver — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:26:51 -0800

Seconding "Cloud Atlas". Ken MacLeod's "Cassini Division" has quite a delightful post-apocalyptic bifurcated society, and there is a whole lot of such reference in multiple Iain M. Banks books.

By: jet_silver

jet_silver — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:28:30 -0800

Ohyeah. Delany. "Fall of the Towers", seconding "Dhalgren", "Nova".

By: Bonzai

Bonzai — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:37:05 -0800

Lucifer's Hammer - David Niven and Jerry Pournelle
The Stand - Stephen King

By: fings

fings — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:43:33 -0800

I'll second Alas, Babylon.

I'll also recommend The Postman by David Brin. Yes, it was made into a bad movie, but don't hold that against it.

Earth Abides, by George R. Stewart is an early (1949) but good one.

By: Cricket

Cricket — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:44:11 -0800

Thank you, infinite jest; I've read the book but not seen the movie, and I wondered how it really fit this theme. The book has a pre-apocalyptic rather than a post-apocalyptic feel; the world is ending rather than ended, and the end is long, drawn out, and people are either resigned to it or have gone crazy.

By: low_horrible_immoral

low_horrible_immoral — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:43:57 -0800

The Chrysalids (also called Re-Birth) by John Wyndham is also really good

Seconding this; I really love The Chrysalids and it's v. underrated IMHO.

Empty World is a young adult book but still aces, and captures well the excitement/fear of having the world to yourself.

By: h00py

h00py — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:56:53 -0800

Thank you all! Of course, I should have realised that this would have been covered exstensively before because it really is such a fascinating/horrifying what-if. I've read the Chrysalids so many times since I was about 11 that I can't even begin to count. Books published in the last 5 years or so would be good, and I'm going to buy my 10th book this week (a positive orgy! Hooray for settlement money!) when I get "The Road" tomorrow (I've been pondering it for a while).

By: h00py

h00py — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 01:58:16 -0800

-s (pedantic)

By: h00py

h00py — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:00:10 -0800

5-10 years would be good, actually.

By: -harlequin-

-harlequin- — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:26:02 -0800

Currently reading World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War.

It's what happens when you fail to contain the outbreak. Just came out in paperback.

By: fallenposters

fallenposters — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:29:39 -0800

I Am Legend by Richard Matheson
World War Z by Max Brooks
Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler

You might also want to check out the Left Behind series if you don't mind Christian fiction.

By: fallenposters

fallenposters — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:38:35 -0800

Also, check out Blindness by Jose Saramago.

By: ROU_Xenophobe

ROU_Xenophobe — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:13:02 -0800

Sean McMullen's Souls in the Great Machine, The Miocene Arrow, and Eyes of the Calculor.

Jack McDevitt, Eternity Road

Vernor Vinge, The Peace War sort of fits.

cstross, Singularity Sky sort of fits in that you get to see a differmint kind of apocalypse unfold. Sort of.

By: spacefire

spacefire — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:28:47 -0800

"The Postman" is IMO the best post apocalyptic novel ever written. Don't bother with the movie.
Also, try "The Road"

By: spacefire

spacefire — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:32:42 -0800

edit: The Road came out just last year to critical acclaim.

By: JonnyRotten

JonnyRotten — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:35:12 -0800

As far as published in the last 5-10 years, I have to suggest the 'Souls In the Great Machine' trilogy.
The first book takes place after a nuclear winter and is set in Australia. Humanity is stuck at the steam age, because of a satellite in orbit that emp blasts any electrical signal it spots. Librarians rule the world, and theres a giant human powered computer that calculates battle odds.
One of my favorite books of all time. The rest of the series is pretty good too.

Although its older, I also thought Battlefield Earth had a post apoc feel to it, mixed with the scifi.

By: spacefire

spacefire — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:35:19 -0800

oh another one I thought of, great book if you have the stomach for it, is Faraday's Orphans

N Lee Wood is Norman Spinrad's wife but her style is quite distinctive.

By: escabeche

escabeche — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:49:53 -0800

The book has a pre-apocalyptic rather than a post-apocalyptic feel; the world is ending rather than ended, and the end is long, drawn out, and people are either resigned to it or have gone crazy.

But exactly describes what's so great about the movie! The human race actually already has been destroyed but is still walking around getting used to the idea. I thought it was something truly novel in the somewhat ritualized universe of post-apocalypse SF.

To avoid this being pure derail, let me make an oddball suggestion and put in a word for Flan, by Stephen Tunney (also known as half of King Missile.) Cannibalism, bestiality, arson, and talking fish in a post-nuclear New York.

By: JaredSeth

JaredSeth — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:07:05 -0800

It's been years since I've read them, but I recall loving Sterling Lanier's Hiero's Journey and The Unforsaken Hiero when I was a teen.

By: hydropsyche

hydropsyche — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:35:57 -0800

Almost all John Brunner is along these lines in one way or another. My favorite is The Sheep Look Up. It is more post-we screwed up the planet than post-actual apocalypse.

By: BoscosMom

BoscosMom — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:13:22 -0800

The Gate To Women's Country by Sheri S. Tepper

By: Freaky

Freaky — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:18:01 -0800

/ (Slant) and Queen of Angels are prequels to Greg Bear's Moving Mars. Not critical to the story (they just happen to be in the same universe), and not really post-apocalyptic, but both very good.

Blood Music, another Bear classic, has an apocalypse of sorts (biotech grey goo), and Bloom by Will McCarthy follows in the same vein long after nanotech has ravaged the inner solar system.

Roadside Picnic is what STALKER is based on, and you could certainly consider life within The Zone to be post-apocalyptic, even if the rest of the world continues on as normal(ish).

By: subtle_squid

subtle_squid — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:32:14 -0800

seconding Parable of the Sower, and its sequel, Parable of the Talents. Octavia Butler also wrote the post apocalyptic Xenogenesis Trilogy which is compiled in to a single volume called Lillith's Brood. Her Patternist trilogy has always reminded me of Canticle because of its multi generational scope. The first book being set during American slavery but the last is sort of post apocalyptic as humanity has been divided in to two warring species by an alien disease.

By: Lentrohamsanin

Lentrohamsanin — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:34:15 -0800

While not technically an "end of the world" story The Hieros Gamos of Sam and An Smith by Josephine Saxton has an apocalyptic feel. It's not a perfect book by any means, but it certainly is an unusual story. Also, if you don't know what "hieros gamos" means, wait until after you've read the book to look it up. I did and I found it added something to the experience.

By: exhilaration

exhilaration — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:24:16 -0800

This was on Boing Boing three days ago - Wastelands: Stories of the Apocalypse. It's an an anthology of apocalyptic fiction.

By: everichon

everichon — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:57:29 -0800

Riddley Walker is the best of the genre, a superb desert-island-top-5 book by any metric. Cloud Atlas was very enjoyable. I never tire of these threads.

By: Jacen

Jacen — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:06:38 -0800

Y- the last man graphic novels/comics.

Kings the gunslinger/dark tower series.

In a slightly twisted but very real way.... Dune.

Post-nuke (or some such) a webcomic.