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	<title>Comments on: How to build a budget gaming PC?</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:51:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: How to build a budget gaming PC?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC</link>	
		<description>Help me build a really mediocre gaming PC! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I&apos;ve finally got the resources to sink a bunch of cash into a somewhat up-to-date PC for gaming. However, I don&apos;t want/need to spend enough money to get me to the top of the gaming curve - I don&apos;t mind waiting a while before I can play modern games like Bioshock. I&apos;m happy to stay back where the relatively cheap, but still nice games are - specifically I want to be able to play Half-Life 2 at a decent res/detail, but I don&apos;t need to max it out necessarily. The most recent game my now-defunct rig could (just about) play was Battlefield 1942, so it seems like there&apos;s plenty of great games to get through that were released between that and HL2 (and there&apos;s plenty of pre-BF1942 games I haven&apos;t got around to as well). My aim is to go for maximum cost-efficiency!&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve got a monitor, keyboard/mouse, printer/scanner and speakers, two DVD/RW drives, and I&apos;ll also have a ~300GB external HDD, but not much else I can add. Ideally I&apos;d like to spend less than ~&#163;200, but that&apos;s somewhat flexible. It would be good if the PC was pretty quiet. Bonus points if it&apos;d be easy to upgrade it in the future. I can probably put the thing together myself (I&apos;ve got a friend who can help if necessary). I live in London, UK.&lt;br&gt;
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Thanks in advance!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:40:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Drexen</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: Comrade_robot</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045100</link>	
		<description>Is there any way you can buy a used PC from someone who is into gaming and always has to have the latest and greatest?   That might be cheaper, and you could put your stuff in that.&lt;br&gt;
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Otherwise, what kind of graphics card do you have?  That can make a big difference when you&apos;re playing FPSes.</description>
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		<title>By: Drexen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045131</link>	
		<description>Hi &lt;b&gt;Comrade_Robot&lt;/b&gt; - I don&apos;t currently have a (working) graphics card or any other components than the ones I listed - that&apos;s probably the main thing I need advice on, actually: which one will give me just enough performance without breaking the bank. It seems the components I need recommendations for are:&lt;br&gt;
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Case&lt;br&gt;
Motherboard&lt;br&gt;
CPU&lt;br&gt;
RAM&lt;br&gt;
Graphics-card&lt;br&gt;
Sound card?&lt;br&gt;
Cooling?&lt;br&gt;
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And a good source to buy them from, preferably without having to buy new peripherals.&lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t know many people who are into gaming, but I will be making enquiries with those who do. However I&apos;d like it to last a long time so I&apos;d prefer to buy new if I can.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:20:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Drexen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: damn dirty ape</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045136</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d build a budget gaming PC by buying a cheap-ish Dell or other premade brand and tossing in a decent video card and 2 gigs of ram. This is most likely your cheapst option.&lt;br&gt;
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If I was building my own I would probably go this route:&lt;br&gt;
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1. Athlon X2 processor, say a 3600. This runs 60 dollars nowadays. Or move up to a 4400 for a little more.&lt;br&gt;
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2. A compatible  motherboard. Doesnt really matter much as we&apos;re not interested in onboard video. Say 60 dollars.&lt;br&gt;
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3.  Nvidia 7600 GS video card.  This can be had for under 150 dollars nowadays. If that&apos;s too expensive then this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130062&quot;&gt;7600GT is 75 dollars after rebate&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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4. 500w power supply and a decent case.&lt;br&gt;
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This should be around your 400 dollar limit. Maybe a tad over when you toss in 2 gigs of ram.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:24:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>damn dirty ape</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Argyle</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045137</link>	
		<description>I suggest the guides at Sharky&apos;s.  Give a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/MVGSBG/article.php/3678701&quot;&gt;Value Gamer&apos;s System Buying Guide&lt;/a&gt;.   There are also ones for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/MHGSBG/article.php/3684486&quot;&gt;High-end&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/EGBG/article.php/3691911&quot;&gt;Extreme&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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Doing it for ~&#163;200 is tight.  You&apos;ll need a case, CPU, motherboard, RAM and video card to get something up. &lt;br&gt;
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Likely costs:&lt;br&gt;
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~&#163;25 RAM (1 GB)&lt;br&gt;
~&#163;50-100 Video Card&lt;br&gt;
~&#163;50-75 Barebones Case &amp;amp; Mobo&lt;br&gt;
~&#163;50-100 CPU&lt;br&gt;
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That based on US prices translated to pounds...&lt;br&gt;
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Cheers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:25:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Argyle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: damn dirty ape</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045140</link>	
		<description>Whoops, &quot;Nvidia 7600 GS video card&quot; should have been 7900GS.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:26:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dagnyscott</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045147</link>	
		<description>This is what I got in February:&lt;br&gt;
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AMD ATHLON 64 3800+ bundled w/ motherboard and 1 gig of RAM for $245.86 &lt;br&gt;
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ASUS GeForce 256MB PCI-E for $88&lt;br&gt;
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Case/power supply/fans for about $30</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:34:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hermes32</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045170</link>	
		<description>I used the guides at Ars Technica to build a low-end gaming box. They have several guides at different price points, and good duscussions about the cost/performance tradeoffs for each component. You&apos;ll probably want the &lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/guide-200706.ars/2&quot;&gt;Budget Box&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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Good luck!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:57:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Drexen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045188</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045170&quot;&gt;Hermes32&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;You&apos;ll probably want the &lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/guide-200706.ars/2&quot;&gt;Budget Box&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;
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That list looks pretty much perfect! Taking out the components I already have, it comes to about &#163;240 + shipping, which is workable for me -- in any case, it&apos;s a good benchmark to work from and compare other possible configurations with, along with everyone else&apos;s suggestions. Thanks, guys!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:09:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: phearlez</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045254</link>	
		<description>Just as a datapoint, I have a machine with an X850 PCI-E and it&apos;ll run HL2&apos;s HDR demo level just peachy, so if that&apos;s your pinnacle requirement then the aprox $70 USD x1650 should be more than fine for you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:05:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: unmake</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045610</link>	
		<description>Build around the cheapest dual-core processor available (probably AMD), pair with a nice nforce6100 motherboard; get 2GB of DDR2 for ~$60; for graphics, look at the GeForce 8600 or 8800 series, whatever fits into your budget after taking care of the processor, motherboard, and RAM. Unless you get a great deal on a 7950GT, don&apos;t bother with the (DX9-only) 7-series cards.&lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;ve already got a case, power supply, hard drive, etc, $400 is generally enough to buy into the upper-middle class (at least) of gaming. Unless prices are very different, &#163;200 ought to be suffiecient.&lt;br&gt;
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If possible, locate a site such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://bensbargains.net/&quot;&gt;Ben&apos;s Bargains&lt;/a&gt; that caters to your geography.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:47:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: markr</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/70010/How-to-build-a-budget-gaming-PC#1045710</link>	
		<description>The ars budget box looks pretty good. But I would at least consider getting an intel E2140 (the cheapest C2D) and over-clocking it. The E2140 isn&apos;t quite as fast as the 3600+, but they tend to over-clock really easily even with stock cooling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:45:28 -0800</pubDate>
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