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	<title>Comments on: Toonz for noobz?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:45:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Toonz for noobz?</title>
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		<description>What are the five most mind-blowing, fanmaking, yet accessible albums of the past ten years?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; One of my best friends is an ex-Dave Matthews fan who has now graduated to Death Cab for Cutie. Last night, I drunkenly scoffed at this perceivedly rote fandom. I think my penance should include giving her some new music to try out. What are some albums guaranteed to make someone with a taste for such emotional, conventional, lyrics-oriented rock melodies, intrigued in exploring more music off the FM beaten path?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I&apos;m probably going with The Sunset Tree, by The Mountain Goats, because it knocked my personal socks off, for example.</description>
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		<title>By: punchdrunkhistory</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025149</link>	
		<description>The Shins - Oh, Inverted World&lt;br&gt;
Arcade Fire - Funeral&lt;br&gt;
The National - Alligator</description>
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		<title>By: Lockeownzj00</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025150</link>	
		<description>flotation toy warning - bluffer&apos;s guide to the flight deck</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:47:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: marxfriedrice</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025155</link>	
		<description>I second Funeral. Also OK Computer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:52:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fair_game</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025156</link>	
		<description>The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin and Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Band Of Horses - Everything All The Time&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:55:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dagnyduquette</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025158</link>	
		<description>Amy Winehouse - Back to Black</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:57:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dismas</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025159</link>	
		<description>Although parts it might be a little less accessible (it&apos;s hard for me to say, my judgment is skewed), Radiohead&apos;s &lt;i&gt;OK Computer&lt;/i&gt; would fit the bill.&lt;br&gt;
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Radiohead is a fantastic gateway drug.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
On preview: Damnit, marxfriedrice.</description>
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		<title>By: saladin</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025161</link>	
		<description>Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West&lt;br&gt;
Three Mile Pilot - Another Desert, Another Sea&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
If you&apos;re willing to expand the timeline to 15 years, I&apos;d include Sebadoh&apos;s &quot;Bakesale&quot; in that list too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:59:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ironmouth</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025170</link>	
		<description>Uh, there&apos;s a gigantic difference between Death Cab for Cutie and the Dave Matthews band. Dave Matthews always sucked, and the current hate for Death Cab exists only because so many people like it now that one cannot be cool and like it.&lt;br&gt;
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otherwise, exactly what fair_game said, but I&apos;ve never heard of the Band of Horses.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Currently obsessed with Bishop Allen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:05:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025176</link>	
		<description>Ted Leo seems like the ideal candidate here. I have a ton of friends who have followed that DMB-DCFC path or similar, and everyone seems to get stoked on his music. It&apos;s more upbeat than either of the former, but they will probably like it anyway. (Go for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00061QJ4Y/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Shake the Sheets&lt;/a&gt;, probably. His newest album is rather inaccessible and not very poppy.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
If you really want a musician with a very similar feel (melodic, kind of simple, emotional), go for Ben Lee&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00078GIAQ/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Awake is The New Sleep&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Note that neither of these albums &quot;Blew my mind&quot; per se, (although they are both very very good, and still get decently regular play in my house) they are simply highly accessible and good &quot;transitional&quot; albums that have worked for me in the &apos;broaden a friend&apos;s musical horizons&apos; game. I generally save the mindblowers for the second round.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Ps:If you want my recs for &quot;mindblowers&quot; (ie: albums that changed my musical leanings heavily), there would probably be a Modest Mouse album (Personally, it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004TTCJ/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Moon and Antarctica&lt;/a&gt;, although their new album is really excellent as well. You can&apos;t really go wrong when you&apos;re playing with The Smiths&apos; own Johnny Marr.). &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
 Speaking of, there would also surely be The Smiths on that list. Yes oh yes. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002L9J/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Queen is Dead&lt;/a&gt; is the obvious choice, but if you would rather an anthology, go for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002MZ4/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Singles&lt;/a&gt;, rather than the one called &quot;Best of&quot;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Also, Radiohead&apos;s &lt;a href=&gt;OK Computer.&lt;/a&gt; It&apos;s just too old by about a month, but I&apos;m going to throw it in anyway. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
pps: I love that Mountain Goats album. so much. I&apos;ve had the fortune to see them live a few times, and it was awesome each time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:10:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: theiconoclast31</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025178</link>	
		<description>Obligatory link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fabchannel.com/andrew_bird&quot;&gt;Andrew Bird&lt;/a&gt; FabChannel concert, he&apos;s brilliant and IMO more accessible than Modest Mouse or the Goats (although they&apos;re both great, too!)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:12:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025180</link>	
		<description>That OK Computer link should be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002UJQ/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;OK Computer&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:12:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slarty Bartfast</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025183</link>	
		<description>Accessible, fan-making, last 10 years? Might I infer indie oriented since you mention Death Cab?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Gorillaz&lt;br&gt;
Postal Service&lt;br&gt;
Arcade Fire - Funeral&lt;br&gt;
Shins - Chute&apos;s Too Narrow&lt;br&gt;
Peter Bjorn and John - Writer&apos;s Block&lt;br&gt;
Spoon - Gimme Fiction&lt;br&gt;
Stephen Malkmus&lt;br&gt;
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:16:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025184</link>	
		<description>aaand two people beat me to OK Computer. ok.  Also, what Ironmouth said. also also, get her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002J58LK/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Garden State Soundtrack&lt;/a&gt;. For real. Sooo many of my friends have used this as their gateway album.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:17:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slarty Bartfast</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025185</link>	
		<description>I was also going to say Modest Mouse, but for me it&apos;s Everywhere and His Nasty Parlor Tricks. Weird how everyone&apos;s favorite MM album is different...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:17:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ageispolis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025186</link>	
		<description>Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People&lt;br&gt;
Electrelane - The Power-Out&lt;br&gt;
Buck 65 - Talkin&apos; Honky Blues&lt;br&gt;
Neutral Milk Hotel - Aeroplane Over The Sea&lt;br&gt;
Constantines - s/t&lt;br&gt;
Belle &amp;amp; Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress&lt;br&gt;
Ani DiFranco - Evolve&lt;br&gt;
Sonic Youth - Rather Ripped&lt;br&gt;
Animal Collective - Sung Tongs&lt;br&gt;
The Decemberists - Picaresque&lt;br&gt;
Devendra Banhart - Rejoicing In The Hands&lt;br&gt;
Elliott Smith - s/t &lt;small&gt;(1995, but his best IMO)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Hawksley Workman - Entire Discography&lt;br&gt;
TV On The Radio - Return To Cookie Mountain&lt;br&gt;
Deerhoof - Reveille&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Note: One is a folk/hip-hop album.  But the guy sounds like he could really expand his genre horizons anyways.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:18:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ads</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025192</link>	
		<description>Blonde Redhead &#8211; Misery is a Butterfly&lt;br&gt;
The Hold Steady &#8211; Boys and Girls in America&lt;br&gt;
Muse &#8211; Showbiz&lt;br&gt;
Placebo &#8211; Without You I&apos;m Nothing&lt;br&gt;
Silversun Pickups &#8211; Carnavas&lt;br&gt;
TV On The Radio &#8211; Desperate Youth, Bloodthirsty Babes&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I can&apos;t narrow it any further.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:23:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slarty Bartfast</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025193</link>	
		<description>Oh Jesus Christ,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The Weezer Green Album came out in 2001. Does *anyone* not love the pure pop goodness of this album?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:26:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dorian</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025196</link>	
		<description>british sea power - open season&lt;br&gt;
the beautiful south - quench&lt;br&gt;
ian mcculloch -- slideling&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
seconding: flaming lips/yoshimi/robots.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:28:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kittyprecious</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025198</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t imagine someone interested in modern music not having heard of Radiohead, but the album that will attract new fans isn&apos;t &lt;i&gt;OK Computer&lt;/i&gt;, it&apos;s &lt;i&gt;The Bends&lt;/i&gt;. It still holds up best.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
My top choice: The New Pornographers, either &lt;i&gt;Electric Version&lt;/i&gt; (more uptempo) or &lt;i&gt;Twin Cinema&lt;/i&gt; (a bit more melancholy). It&apos;s been a long time since I&apos;ve been that happy to be introduced to a band.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:32:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gemmy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025204</link>	
		<description>Greg Laswell, Through Toledo&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
seconding (or whatever)&lt;br&gt;
Radiohead, OK Computer&lt;br&gt;
Arcade Fire, Funeral&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
My two favorite albums from the last few years probably don&apos;t fit the bill, unfortunately:&lt;br&gt;
Muse, Absolution (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N6ntLJUs1U&quot;&gt;example&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br&gt;
Hi-Fi, Stars of CCTV (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baHXHR8EZqk&quot;&gt;example&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Get her to check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://pandora.com/&quot;&gt;Pandora&lt;/a&gt;. Set up a channel for  her with the stuff she likes, and play away. I bet there will be something there to strike her fancy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:38:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mykescipark</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025218</link>	
		<description>&quot;emotional, conventional, lyrics-oriented rock melodies&quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Hmm. Let&apos;s see.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Aimee Mann, Lost in Space.&lt;br&gt;
Francine, Airshow.&lt;br&gt;
PJ Harvey, Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea.&lt;br&gt;
Eric Matthews, The Lateness of the Hour.&lt;br&gt;
The National, Boxer.&lt;br&gt;
The Pernice Brothers, Yours Mine &amp;amp; Ours.&lt;br&gt;
Sloan, One Chord to Another.&lt;br&gt;
The Spinanes, Manos.&lt;br&gt;
Sun Kil Moon, Ghosts of the Great Highway.&lt;br&gt;
Laura Veirs, Year of Meteors.&lt;br&gt;
Yo La Tengo, I Can Hear The Hearts Beating As One.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:52:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025226</link>	
		<description>Dave Matthews to Death Cab is a sad step down.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:58:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Deej</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025229</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m exactly sure if these fit the bill, but you can decide. They may not be far enough off the FM path.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Seconding Muse.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;North&lt;/em&gt; by Something Corporate&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Even though &lt;em&gt;Over My Head&lt;/em&gt; has been played way too much, the CD &lt;em&gt;How to Save a Life&lt;/em&gt; by The Fray is excellent.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Divine Discontent&lt;/em&gt; by Sixpence None the Richer&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Mary Star of the Sea&lt;/em&gt; by Zwan, is a bit harder-edged in parts&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Beautiful Letdown&lt;/em&gt; by Switchfoot</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:58:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: exogenous</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025233</link>	
		<description>Voxtrot - Raised by Wolves EP</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:03:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drjimmy11</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025244</link>	
		<description>Bright Eyes&apos; &quot;I&apos;m wide awake, it&apos;s morning&quot; is the album of the last 10 ten years, ESPECIALLY  if you are interested in lyrics. I wouldn&apos;t call it &quot;conventional,&quot; but no one else around right now is writing lyrics at even close to his level.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Second prize goes to Rilo Kiley, &quot;The Execution of all Things.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:10:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drjimmy11</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025252</link>	
		<description>oh yeah, and &quot;Give Up&quot; by the Postal Service is truly a perfect album. And your friend can hear the real version of &quot;Such Great Heights,&quot; which she may know from the crappy cover version which was put on the Garden State soundtrack by the supremely tasteless Zack Braff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:13:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacecorn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025254</link>	
		<description>I have really fallen in love with M.Ward&apos;s &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:0xfuxqqdldse&quot;&gt;Post-War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; album.  As a big fan of well-crafted classic rock and 60s/70s singer-songwriter stuff (e.g., The Band, Dylan, JJ Cale), M.Ward&apos;s album feels like a throwback.  Here&apos;s allmusic.com&apos;s (linked above) take on it:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Laconic California indie minstrel M. Ward&apos;s fifth offering is a thrift shop photo album filled with histories that may or may not have been, dust bowl carnival rides, and slices of sunlit Western Americana so thick that you need a broom to sweep up the bits that fall off of the knife. Ward makes records that sound like he just wandered in off the street with a few friends and hit the record button, but what would feel lazy and unfocused in less confident hands comes off like a tutorial in old-school songwriting and performance that hearkens back to the days of Hank Williams and Leadbelly if they had had access to a modern-day studio.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
He reminds me of what that &lt;strike&gt;barefooted mediocre prepackaged hack &lt;/strike&gt; Jack Johnson guy might sound like if he had... oh, I don&apos;t know... vision, talent, a desire to reinterpret what came before him in a unique way and more than just one arrow in his quiver to fire.  &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Here&apos;s the link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToEPFDIzhNA&quot;&gt;YouTube video of &quot;Chinese Translation&quot; off that album.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: hydrophonic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025266</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:wxfyxqy5ldte&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Modern Lovers&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:apfpxql5ldhe&quot;&gt;The Velvet Underground&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
The Sea and Cake - &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:kcfwxqwhldde&quot;&gt;Nassau&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Iron &amp;amp; Wine - &lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:jbfuxqualdje&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Our Endless Numbered Days&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or the EP &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:fpfqxqesldfe&quot;&gt;Woman King&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Neko Case - &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:hifqxqlald6e&quot;&gt;Blacklisted&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Belle &amp;amp; Sebastian - &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:hcfexq8hldte&quot;&gt;If You&apos;re Feeling Sinister&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Magnetic Fields - &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:apfrxqukldke&quot;&gt;69 Love Songs, Pt. 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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More votes from me for &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:wzfexqejld6e&quot;&gt;In the Aeroplane Over the Sea&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Give Up&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Post-War&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Illinois&lt;/em&gt;, and anything by The New Pornographers and The Decemberists.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:24:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: knowles</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025267</link>	
		<description>not all emo/rock, but all music. good is good:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
mars volta - de loused in the comatorium (but only if you have time for the whole thing)&lt;br&gt;
queens of the stone age - songs for the deaf (but the whole catalog is awesome)&lt;br&gt;
squarepusher - big loada (listen to this and realize it&apos;s 10 years old)&lt;br&gt;
aphex twin - richard d. james album (ok 11 years old, but still worth a listen)&lt;br&gt;
dashboard confession - the places you have come to fear the most (just try to not cut yourself and cry)&lt;br&gt;
alkaline trio - self titled (no snarky comment for this one)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:24:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hydrophonic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025278</link>	
		<description>One more:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cat Power - &lt;a href=&quot;http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&amp;sql=10:k9frxqrdldde&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Greatest&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:31:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Haruspex</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025283</link>	
		<description>Jim White&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007CYEVM/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wrong-Eyed Jesus (The Mysterious Tale of How I Shouted)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is just extraordinary and, if you&apos;ll pardon the whiff of hyperbole, life-changing.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
And, on preview, agree wholeheartedly on the M.Ward.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:35:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarylarry</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025284</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not a huge fan myself, but I can&apos;t believe nobody has mentioned wilco&apos;s yankee hotel foxtrot.  It&apos;s pretty accessible, but it&apos;s weird/dissonant enough in places to make a good introduction into music that&apos;s a little more idiosyncratic than the shiny shiny pop droppings off the radio.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Regina Spektor&apos;s Begin to Hope is polished and melodic enough to be mistaken for FM radio fare at first blush, but a close listen reveals a sublimely quirky outing from a unique voice.  She&apos;s a pretty good lyricist, too, IMHO, and for more willing to go out on a lyrical limb than Ben Gibbard or (sweet christ on a toothpick) Dave Matthews.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Seconding Andrew Bird.  His new album, Armchair Apocrypha is unbeatable.  Unless the competition is his previous album, The Mysterious Production of Eggs.  Bird&apos;s brilliant sense of rhythm and sound echo make his lyrics immensely entertaining (sometimes silly, sometimes poignant), and dude seems to like $10 words, which is always nice in rock.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Your friend should probably also get her Bright Eyes phase out of the way ASAP.  Give her Lifted and I&apos;m Wide Awake, It&apos;s Morning to make this as painless as possible.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I&apos;m in love with the new Art Brut album, and the lyrics are mostly about the importance of music in one&apos;s life, which seems appropriate here.  It&apos;s very different from your friends current interests, but that&apos;s not always a bad thing.  Pretty accessible, too, I think.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:36:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mattholomew</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025288</link>	
		<description>Any of The New Pornographers&apos; albums,</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:39:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scarylarry</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025290</link>	
		<description>oh man, Jim White.  Yes, please.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Also, Black Sheep Boy by Okkervil River is gorgeous.  To my mind, Okkervil River occupy a nice middle ground between masturbatory emo whining and literate folk-rock brilliance.  They&apos;re a good transition band.  The new album, The Stage Names, will be out soon and what I&apos;ve heard is fab.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:43:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andywolf</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025294</link>	
		<description>Seconding &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=26313756&quot;&gt;Spoon&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; &quot;Gimme Fiction&quot;, it&apos;s one of the best produced records and not a bad song on it.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The Pogues early records (&quot;Red roses for me&quot; &quot;Rum sodomy and the lash&quot; &quot;If i should fall from grace with god&quot; and &quot;Peace and love&quot;.  &quot;Hell&apos;s ditch&quot; is ok too).  not necessarily &quot;conventional&quot; in the way i think you mean, but it&apos;s rock tinged irish music.  Here&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrAwK9juhhY&quot;&gt;Fairytale of New York&lt;/a&gt;.  A great song and in the video you get a good shot of Shane McGowan&apos;s grill.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I just discovered this in the last year.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedittybops.com/songs-play-angel.htm&quot;&gt;The Ditty Bops&lt;/a&gt; it&apos;s like contemporary &apos;30s music, great vocals and live shows.  Not only good but they&apos;ve got a great aesthetic as well.  &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Calexico are an amazing band, here&apos;s a good song &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=180702908&quot;&gt;Service and Repair&lt;/a&gt; and here&apos;s more recent stuff I&apos;m not familiar &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=35954380&quot;&gt;with&lt;/a&gt;.  I recommend the albums &quot;Blacklight&quot; and &quot;Feast of wire&quot;, I wish everyone knew about this band.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:57:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wsg</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025309</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s slightly out of your ten year window, but Beck&apos;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odelay&quot;&gt;Odelay&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; fits all the other criteria.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:12:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: citron</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025320</link>	
		<description>Seconding -&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea (not my fave of hers by a long shot, but very radio friendly compared to her other records)&lt;br&gt;
Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One&lt;br&gt;
Spinanes - Manos&lt;br&gt;
Neko Case - Blacklisted&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
maybe&lt;br&gt;
Afghan Whigs - 1965&lt;br&gt;
Silver Jews - American Water&lt;br&gt;
Luna - The Days of Our Nights</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:22:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: willpie</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025343</link>	
		<description>Any Shins record.&lt;br&gt;
I&apos;d go with &lt;em&gt;Electric Version&lt;/em&gt; for the New Pornographers, myself.&lt;br&gt;
Don&apos;t start with &lt;em&gt;In The Aeroplane Over the Sea&lt;/em&gt;. If she&apos;s not ready, she may not like it. I find that I like people a little bit less if they don&apos;t like that record. No sense losing a friend here; give it to her in six months.&lt;br&gt;
There&apos;s a thousand Smiths records/compilations/whatever. Just give her &lt;em&gt;Louder Than Bombs&lt;/em&gt; and call it a good start. &lt;br&gt;
For Wilco, I&apos;d start her out with &lt;em&gt;Summerteeth&lt;/em&gt;, though &lt;em&gt;Being There&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;YHF&lt;/em&gt; wouldn&apos;t hurt you.&lt;br&gt;
She may not go for &lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;If You&apos;re Feeling Sinister&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; from where she&apos;s sitting now, but if she does, she&apos;ll thank you forever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:02:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dagnyduquette</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025350</link>	
		<description>The first time I heard Interpol&apos;s Turn on the Bright Lights, I was impressed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:15:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smably</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025363</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m going to second/third/nth the Shins (Chutes Too Narrow), Wilco (Summerteeth or YHF), and Beck (Odelay, even though it&apos;s a bit outside the time window).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:36:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: punchdrunkhistory</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025376</link>	
		<description>Oh, and later on the Hold Steady is a must. Actually, &lt;em&gt;Boys and Girls in America&lt;/em&gt; might not be &lt;em&gt;too&lt;/em&gt; inaccessible right now, but at some point every lyric fan needs to hear &lt;em&gt;Separation Sunday&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:53:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oneirodynia</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025377</link>	
		<description>Doves- Some Cities&lt;br&gt;
Hot Chip- The Warning&lt;br&gt;
Clearlake- Amber&lt;br&gt;
Built to Spill- You in Reverse&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Also seconding Foxtrot, Spoon, the Shins, and Weezer. While I&apos;m a big fan of Muse, I&apos;m not sure someone on the Dave Matthews/ Death Cab bandwagon would be into their more heavy arena sound.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:54:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flibbertigibbet</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025399</link>	
		<description>Sufjan Stevens -- (Come on feel the) Illinoise (aka Illinois).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Arctic Monkeys -- Whatever People Say I Am, That&apos;s What I&apos;m Not. (Super accessible, much more so than Sufjan).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;OK Computer&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;br&gt;
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Anything by Spoon. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Cat Power&apos;s &lt;i&gt;The Greatest&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:23:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iviken</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025471</link>	
		<description>Cassandra Wilson &quot;Belly of the sun&quot; (2002), Lucinda Williams &quot;World without tears&quot; (2003) and Elliott Smith &quot;Either/Or&quot; (1997). Slightly older than 10 years: Jeff Buckley &quot;Grace&quot; (1994).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:07:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MadamM</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025510</link>	
		<description>OMG now I want to blow a few hundred dollars on CDs, this list is reminding me of all the great albums I haven&apos;t gotten around to buying the last few years. Anyway, as someone who&apos;s introduced my friends and family to this type of music, I&apos;m whatever-ing Spoon, The Decemberists, Ted Leo (go for something poppier, I liked Hearts of Oak), Beck, Sufjan Stevens, The Hold Steady, Belle ad Sebastian, Elliot Smith, etc etc etc. Lots of *great* suggestions here, imo.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:12:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rockhopper</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025530</link>	
		<description>Porcupine Tree - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.porcupinetree.com/discography.cfm&quot;&gt;Fear of a Blank Planet,  Deadwing&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
Play them loud.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:43:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paul003</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025590</link>	
		<description>So many great suggestions! I&apos;d definately agree with Arcade Fire, The Decemberists, The Hold Steady, Ted Leo, Okkervil River  and M. Ward.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
And I don&apos;t think any of these have been mentioned..&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of Bewilderbeast&lt;br&gt;
Tegan &amp;amp; Sara - If It Was You / So Jealous&lt;br&gt;
Loveley Feathers - Hind Hind Legs&lt;br&gt;
The Stills - Logic Will Break Your Heart&lt;br&gt;
John Vanderslice - Pixel Revolt&lt;br&gt;
Turin Brakes - The Optimist LP</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:56:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: edverb</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025601</link>	
		<description>Lots of good suggestions in this thread (and thanks for posting this Ambrosia Voyeur!) &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Some more -- none of which are mindblowing like Buckley or Flaming Lips or NMH, but which haven&apos;t been mentioned yet:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Citizen Cope: &quot;Every Waking Moment&quot; -- not exactly mindblowing -- but accessible, fan-making, and a good vibe&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The Cat Empire: &quot;Two Shoes&quot; -- again, not mindblowing but meets all other criteria.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
and I&apos;m intrigued by the Battles album called &quot;Mirrored&quot;. Kind of mindblowing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:21:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BitterOldPunk</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025636</link>	
		<description>I like most of these suggestions, but this list needs some strum and twang. Let me add:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Drive-By Truckers -- Decoration Day&lt;br&gt;
The Dexateens -- Hardwire Healing&lt;br&gt;
Lucero -- Tennessee&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
And some smart pop:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Dr. Dog -- We All Belong&lt;br&gt;
The Negro Problem -- Post Minstrel Syndrome&lt;br&gt;
Robyn Hitchcock &amp;amp; the Venus 3 -- Ole! Tarantula&lt;br&gt;
Through The Sparks -- Lazarus Beach&lt;br&gt;
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And some rawk:&lt;br&gt;
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Earl Greyhound -- Soft Targets&lt;br&gt;
The Raconteurs -- Broken Boy Soldiers&lt;br&gt;
Vietnam -- Vietnam&lt;br&gt;
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And some electro-syntho-dweedly stuff:&lt;br&gt;
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Eels -- Blinking Lights and Other Revelations&lt;br&gt;
Portishead -- Dummy&lt;br&gt;
Panda Bear -- Person Pitch&lt;br&gt;
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And something to make her undergarments fall to the floor:&lt;br&gt;
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Morphine -- Cure For Pain (ok, it&apos;s more like 15 years old)</description>
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		<title>By: The Bridge on the River Kai Ryssdal</title>
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		<description>nthing Sloan (Sloan!), the Decemberists, M. Ward, and Neko Case.  &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
also:  &quot;Earthquake Glue&quot; is a nice Guided By Voices starter, Shearwater&apos;s &quot;Winged Life&quot; is shivery-good addictive for something like M. Ward but more poppy, and &quot;The Slow Wonder&quot; is Carl Newman (the head, I guess, of the New Pornographers these days) gets a little weirder than most of the Pornographers&apos; stuff while still being really easy to get sucked into.  And humming for weeks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:31:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mael Oui</title>
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		<description>Well, I see I&apos;m in an extreme minority, but my answer would be the first Libertines album (&lt;i&gt;Up The Bracket&lt;/i&gt;).. and, to a lesser extent, Franz Ferdinand&apos;s self-titled debut. I don&apos;t think I could come up with anything else.  (Once you&apos;ve listened to Sparks, it&apos;s really difficult to be blown away by more recent stuff. Oh, there is last year&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Hello Young Lovers&lt;/i&gt; by Sparks, but I wouldn&apos;t name that as their best album.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:40:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andywolf</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;and I&apos;m intrigued by the Battles album called &quot;Mirrored&quot;. Kind of mindblowing.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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i thought of mentioning that album.  It&apos;s not the most accessible, but you just have to give it a little time.  Just give the song &lt;a href=&quot;http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=39551579&quot;&gt;Atlas&lt;/a&gt; a shot though, it&apos;s one of the greatest singles in the last ten years.  The video is really great too, I love how guys playing music so insanely complicated are totally dancing around while making it.  I honestly can&apos;t try and push this album on people enough.&lt;br&gt;
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Oh, maybe it&apos;s off base and it&apos;s way past your ten year mark (btw, so little music is actually any good that you&apos;ve gotta widen the parameters a bit.  the further you go back just increases the odds of finding music worthwhile), but Yes &quot;Close to the Edge&quot; changed my life in regards to music.&lt;br&gt;
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Good poppy music needs to mention the first couple Elvis Costello and the Attractions records.  &quot;This Year&apos;s Model&quot; oh, and....&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I&apos;ll shut up, you&apos;ve got me digging thru the 7 inch box.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:49:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chihiro</title>
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		<description>another vote for The Decemberists (Picaresque was my first, but Castaways and Cutouts and the 5 Songs LP are incredible), and yeah Porcupine Tree! &lt;br&gt;
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I highly recommend Aberfeldy&apos;s album, &quot;Young Forever.&quot; I don&apos;t think they were mentioned before -- very fun and poppy with really good lyrics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:50:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 4ster</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1025671</link>	
		<description>The White Stripes: &lt;strong&gt;Elephant&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:27:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dropkick queen</title>
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		<description>How is it possible that no one has yet mentioned Feist? The Reminder is probably the best place to start. Let It Die is also good, but I personally can&apos;t get behind the covers (aside from the Bee Gees). &lt;br&gt;
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nthing PJ Harvey&apos;s Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea, and Sloan (either Action Pact, Between the Bridges, or One Chord To Another).&lt;br&gt;
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I can&apos;t think of any album more accessible than Brain Heart Guitar by The Dudes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:08:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bijou</title>
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		<description>the Strokes: Is This It (UK version, please, as the change of one song takes it from superlative to transcendent).&lt;br&gt;
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I also second Amy Winehouse&apos;s Back to Black.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:25:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eritain</title>
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		<description>You need some socks-offgeknockening jazz. These qualify (for generous values of &apos;jazz&apos;).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Songbird, by Eva Cassidy.&lt;br&gt;
Yours, by Sara Gazarek.&lt;br&gt;
Shifting Sands of Time, by the Wayfaring Strangers.&lt;br&gt;
Perennial Favorites, by the Squirrel Nut Zippers. (It was 1998, I checked.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
And some freakin&apos; amazing bluegrass/acoustic: &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Unit of Measure, by the Tony Rice Unit.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
And some Ukrainian rock/pop-rock/blues-rock/jazz-rock/piano-rock ... any album at all by &#1055;&#1083;&#1072;&#1095; &#1028;&#1088;&#1077;&#1084;i&#1111; (Plach YEremiyi, blues rock with jazz influences) or &#1054;&#1082;&#1077;&#1072;&#1085; &#1045;&#1083;&#1100;&#1079;&#1080; (Okean El&apos;zy, hard and pop and piano flavors of rock). It all knocks me for a loop, &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; of it, and that&apos;s &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; I listen to the lyrics (at which point it knocks me for another one).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:06:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fac21</title>
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		<description>many people may laugh at this, but i think the album &quot;the con&quot; by tegan and sara matches your description.  this album really blew me away, and i was NOT a fan of theirs before.  i have been listening to it every day for weeks.</description>
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		<title>By: Clyde Mnestra</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1026413</link>	
		<description>Awesome thread.  You might try to target it more by defining a genre range (e.g., whether &quot;no depression&quot; stuff can be included).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Seconding Aimee Mann, though I would recommend Bachelor No. 2 or The Forgotten Arm as the gateway.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Any of several Fountains of Wayne albums, or Patty Griffin albums, certainly on the accessibility front.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Incidentally, Aeroplanes was the first Neutral Milk Hotel album I heard, and I got into it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:04:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PeterMcDermott</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/68536/Toonz-for-noobz#1030178</link>	
		<description>Not enough hiphop. So how about:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The Notorious BIG - Ready to Die&lt;br&gt;
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt&lt;br&gt;
Kanye West - College Dropout&lt;br&gt;
Eminem - The Marshal Mathers LP&lt;br&gt;
Jay-Z - The Black Album&lt;br&gt;
Nas - Illmatic</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:22:24 -0800</pubDate>
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