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      <title>Comments on: Can I plant a birch tree that won't die?</title>
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  	<title>Question: Can I plant a birch tree that won&apos;t die?</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66787/Can-I-plant-a-birch-tree-that-wont-die</link>	
  	<description>Landscaping question: We recently moved to a house in central NJ whic has many trees. The tree doctor we hired to trim back some trees that were too close to the house says that the clump of beautiful birch trees we love is terminal due to a borer and the disease is such that the tree can have its life extended, but not saved.

Local nurseries have red birches, but we love the kind with the papery white bark. Our question: Should we remove the trees as we have been advised, and if we do, Is there a disease resisitant white birch that can grow in our area?

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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:42:32 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: furtive</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66787/Can-I-plant-a-birch-tree-that-wont-die#1001588</link>	
  	<description>Something to consider: those clumps of white birch only last for 30 years and are prone to come down easily in the wind, so you don&apos;t want them too close to the house and they aren&apos;t exactly what you&apos;d want to use to line an avenue.  I&apos;d probably take the doctor&apos;s advice and remove them, and make sure new ones aren&apos;t too close to the house.</description>
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  	<title>By: shoesfullofdust</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66787/Can-I-plant-a-birch-tree-that-wont-die#1001596</link>	
  	<description>Have a look for Asian White Birch or &apos;Heritage&apos; cultivars. Try searching  for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.ca/search?q=birch+cultivar+borer&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&quot; title=&quot;birch cultivar borer - Google Search&quot;&gt;birch borer cultivar&lt;/a&gt; and see if you can find a fact sheet from an agricultural extension in your area.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:09:24 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: amyms</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66787/Can-I-plant-a-birch-tree-that-wont-die#1001617</link>	
  	<description>If you can afford a second opinion, I&apos;d recommend getting one before you give the go-ahead to remove all the trees (that&apos;s pretty drastic).</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:33:59 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: oneirodynia</title>
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  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floridata.com/ref/B/betu_pap.cfm&quot;&gt;Betula papyrifera&lt;/a&gt;, the native white birch, is considered more resistant to the borer, but you should probably double check with your local agricultural extension.&lt;br&gt;
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Cutting down the infested trees sooner rather than later helps prevent the spread of the pest, and ultimately is less of a liability than sick trees near your house.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:52:22 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: mmf</title>
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  	<description>Thanks for the info. Now your answers make me wonder if the new trees can be planted in the same general area the old trees were -- is the disease retained in the soil?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:18:37 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: djb</title>
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  	<description>Many towns &amp;amp; counties in NJ have Shade Tree Commissions that offer free disease consultations.  They could probably also help you pick out a new one.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:50:39 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: oneirodynia</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66787/Can-I-plant-a-birch-tree-that-wont-die#1001705</link>	
  	<description>The beetles don&apos;t appear to have any part of their life cycle in the soil, but if there are other birch trees in your neighborhood, it&apos;s likely they are hosts. Pests like this rarely affect healthy trees; if you want to continue to have birch trees, carefully consider whether you can provide a healthy environment over the long term. One thing that people rarely consider that can have a very detrimental effect on shallow rooted trees such as birches is soil compaction. If the root system of these trees is where people walk, under a driveway, or in any area that may be used as access or staging for any construction you may be considering, that can set the stage for detrimental borer infestation. Here&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/fidls/bbb/bbb.htm&quot;&gt;good page on the birch borer&lt;/a&gt; that talks about desirable conditions for birches, more resistant varieties (there aren&apos;t any that are borer-proof), and the life cycle of the pest.&lt;br&gt;
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As a gardener,  if you were my client I&apos;d do my best to talk you out of planting these trees again.  If you really love birches, maybe a nice specimen as a focal point somewhere, and something else to replace the sickly trees.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:24:25 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Ostara</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66787/Can-I-plant-a-birch-tree-that-wont-die#1001725</link>	
  	<description>There are resistant varieties. This &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forestfarm.com/search/closeup.asp?PlantID=bepo097&quot;&gt;Royal Frost birch&lt;/a&gt; looks promising. A birch is never going to be a long-lived tree, but you can hedge your bets by getting a hybrid that is designed for disease and insect resistance. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forestfarm.com/search/closeup.asp?PlantID=bepa031&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is another resistant variety.&lt;br&gt;
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The &lt;a href=&quot;http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/hgic1022.htm&quot;&gt;London Plane Tree&lt;/a&gt; has bark similar to a white birch. This tree is actually a more disease-resistant variety of the native sycamore.  It&apos;s a very pretty tree but also quite a bit larger than the birch.&lt;br&gt;
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You may also want to look at weeping cherry trees as an alternative. Beautiful shiny brown bark, graceful habit, and soft, delicate pink flowers in the spring.&lt;br&gt;
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So, to answer your question, any birch will probably last 30 years at the most. But that may be ok in your situation. Just pick a more resistant variety.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:50:02 -0800</pubDate>
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