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	<title>Comments on: What's a good Vista-supported alternative to Network Stumbler?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:45:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: What&apos;s a good Vista-supported alternative to Network Stumbler?</title>
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		<description>What&apos;s a good alternative to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netstumbler.org&quot;&gt;Network Stumbler&lt;/a&gt; that supports Vista? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I really enjoy Network Stumbler (especially the audio alerts), but sadly it doesn&apos;t work on my Vista machine, either due to OS incompatibility (Vista is officially unsupported, but it works for some people) or an unsupported network card -- mine is a Broadcom.  Under Vista, NS gives the error, &quot;No wireless adapter found.&quot;&lt;br&gt;
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The NS user forums are useless, because all Vista-based questions are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=21558&quot;&gt;swiftly closed&lt;/a&gt; because it&apos;s unsupported, officially.&lt;br&gt;
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What&apos;s a good alternative piece of software that works with Vista? Or, in the off chance that someone has been able to get Vista + a Broadcom adapter to work with NS, how&apos;d you do it?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The nitty gritty of my setup:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
-Dell 640m (e1405)&lt;br&gt;
-Vista Home Basic&lt;br&gt;
-Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller; 802.11g Network Adapter</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:50:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: jkaczor</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66450/Whats-a-good-Vistasupported-alternative-to-Network-Stumbler#997189</link>	
		<description>Chuckle - a bootable Linux CD/DVD?  CoLinux?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:45:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66450/Whats-a-good-Vistasupported-alternative-to-Network-Stumbler#997195</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not sure how suggesting I use an entirely different OS can be considered a valid, helpful answer to my question.&lt;br&gt;
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To reiterate, my questions are:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;1) What&apos;s a good alternative piece of software that works with Vista? &lt;br&gt;
2) Or, in the off chance that someone has been able to get Vista + a Broadcom adapter to work with NS, how&apos;d you do it?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Thanks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:51:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rancidchickn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66450/Whats-a-good-Vistasupported-alternative-to-Network-Stumbler#997196</link>	
		<description>I would say that a linux live CD would be your best option (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kismetwireless.net/&quot;&gt;kismet&lt;/a&gt; &amp;gt; netstumbler), except broadcom cards are not supported well in linux.&lt;br&gt;
You could try to find a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml&quot;&gt;supported  wireless&lt;/a&gt; for cheap.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
A quick google search turned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.securitynewsportal.com/securitynews/article.php?title=Quick_substitute_for_Netstumbler_on_Vista&quot;&gt;this &lt;/a&gt;up. Kind of a primitive netstumber.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:53:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SirStan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66450/Whats-a-good-Vistasupported-alternative-to-Network-Stumbler#998223</link>	
		<description>How about a good alternate OS that works with NetStumbler? Windows XP is a popular choice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:49:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SirStan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: nitsuj</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66450/Whats-a-good-Vistasupported-alternative-to-Network-Stumbler#998246</link>	
		<description>sigh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:25:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nitsuj</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jkaczor</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/66450/Whats-a-good-Vistasupported-alternative-to-Network-Stumbler#999046</link>	
		<description>You did see the &quot;chuckle&quot;, right?  It was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I have been using NetStumbler since it&apos;s inception - I would *love* to have it work with Vista - frankly, I will bet that a certain company has changed the driver model again with Vista - which is why NetStumbler does not work.  Too bad access via NDIS isn&apos;t working either.&lt;br&gt;
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I just tested myself - and it does not work with my &quot;Intel&quot; card native &amp;amp; NDIS under Vista either.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Due to the tremendous lag between updates from NetStumbler, it almost feels like time to start an opensource project.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:44:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jkaczor</dc:creator>
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