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	<title>Comments on: What are some small, swift laptops without Vista?</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:18:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: What are some small, swift laptops without Vista?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista</link>	
		<description>Where is the small, swift laptop without vista? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I have about 800 dollars to spend on a laptop. In my searches, Ive been led to curse dell and vista under my breath in frustration. Does anyone have any ideas about where I can find a small laptop to suit me?&lt;br&gt;
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I demand:&lt;br&gt;
Windows XP&lt;br&gt;
1 gig of ram&lt;br&gt;
Less than 6 pounds.&lt;br&gt;
Decent battery life.&lt;br&gt;
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To be honest, I will really use this computer mostly to check my email, tote around on my bicycle to steal wireless from unsuspecting coffee shops and to pirate music. Ive looked at previous posts but of course new information on this is constant.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:14:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: modernnomad</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#982960</link>	
		<description>could you not buy a cheap OEM copy of XP and install it on any laptop you wanted?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:18:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pupdog</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#982962</link>	
		<description>You might have a better bet looking at refurbs or overruns, somewhere like &lt;a href=&quot;http://ecost.com/&quot;&gt;ecost &lt;/a&gt;or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerdirect.com/&quot;&gt;tigerdirect&lt;/a&gt;. For a bit Dell went back to making XP an option, but most newly built units are going to be Vista-centric.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:20:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rancidchickn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#982963</link>	
		<description>Buy laptop with Vista. Download XP from P2P. Tada?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:20:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rkent</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#982967</link>	
		<description>Maybe a slightly older IBM (er, Lenovo) T series?  My T60, newest model to still have XP instead of Vista, was about a grand after student discount, though it fits all of your other specifications.  Maybe a somewhat older one would be around 800.  Or, check eBay for a barely-used one?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:25:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pantsrobot</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#982969</link>	
		<description>Since it doesn&apos;t look like you need a powerful processor, consider the &lt;a href=&quot;http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=207&quot;&gt;Kohjinsha&lt;/a&gt; or equivalent UMPC. I tried one out and it&apos;s pretty awesome. Tiny, but able to do anything I&apos;d usually need.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:26:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Baud</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#982974</link>	
		<description>I have bought a laptop without an OS (just a BIOS) in a oxfam second-hand computer store.&lt;br&gt;
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My goal was to install Ubuntu.&lt;br&gt;
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So if you&apos;re looking for a laptop without Vista you may look there but 1 gig of ram looks a bit much for the second-hand circuit right now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:31:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: devilsbrigade</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#982982</link>	
		<description>You could pick up a refurbished T40/41/42 for around that pricing. You&apos;d have to stick in another RAM chip to get it up to a gig, but RAM&apos;s cheap.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:44:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: true</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983033</link>	
		<description>Thinkpad X series if you want superlight and are ok with leaving the DVD drive at home.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:45:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: exlotuseater</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983046</link>	
		<description>go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dealnews.com&quot;&gt;Dealnews&lt;/a&gt; and set up an email alert for it-- I have seen laptops that meet your criteria in the past three weeks (for less than you want to spend). Dell offers deal with Vista, but very often will also allow the XP option--as mentioned above.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:17:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cholly</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983051</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;mostly to check my email, tote around on my bicycle to steal wireless from unsuspecting coffee shops and to pirate music.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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It sounds exactly like what I do with my laptop. I&apos;ve got a Dell Latitude X200 and it works perfectly for all that. It has a 933Mhz processor which does everything I need it to do. I also upgraded it to 1GB RAM and it is awesome. The best part is the size - 12.1&quot; screen, less than 2cms (3/4 inch) when closed, 1.35kg (3 pounds).&lt;br&gt;
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You can pick them up for a few hundred dollars on eBay and then spend the rest kitting it out as you wish.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:32:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jbickers</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983100</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2912722&amp;Sku=G153-MX6448&quot;&gt;Try this&lt;/a&gt; - everything (I think) that you&apos;re looking for, for about $500.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:58:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: monkeymadness</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983117</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been looking for something even leaner and cheaper myself.  As much as it&apos;s getting panned on the &apos;tubes Palm&apos;s Foleo looks like a great little machine, though no XP.  About every app I need (word processing, spreadsheet, even LaTeX-&amp;gt;PDF conversion) can be found in some online form, as can storage space.  The Foleo isn&apos;t game ready (AFAIAC) but the idea is great--small, light, fast, cheap web access with flash.  I&apos;m hoping some copycats will make it better and cheaper.  &lt;br&gt;
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All that said if you can get one of the machines listed above for a good price and offload most of the computing work to Google et al. you&apos;ll be good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:27:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Orb2069</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983119</link>	
		<description>My recently purchased &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1904159&amp;sku=M975-5000&quot;&gt;T40 refurb&lt;/a&gt; came from TigerDirect with a year&apos;s warranty for $500  - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T40&quot;&gt;512/20gb/1.5ghz &lt;/a&gt;and an open slot for more RAM.  It&apos;s got a big footprint (10&quot;x12.25&quot;), but thin(1.125&quot;), which is kind of a problem in that it dosen&apos;t fit in some of the nicer laptop cases I had in mind (I&apos;m looking at you, &lt;a href=&quot;http://pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1080&quot;&gt;Pelican 1080&lt;/a&gt;.  Grrr.)&lt;br&gt;
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Only problem to date was that the installed CDRW didn&apos;t write disks - The repair company (Metro  Business Systems), while not too helpful on the phone, turned the replacement around within 24hours of receipt, and didn&apos;t do anything boneheaded like require me to send the whole laptop in.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:28:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: porpoise</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983449</link>	
		<description>I have an ooold Dell Latitude C400; they can be had on eBay for ~$300. Though quite a few years old, the 1.2Ghz P3-M is fine as my lab laptop.&lt;br&gt;
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The magnesium-alloy body is a godsend for resisting random impacts. It&apos;s quite lightweight, and you can get 6- and 8- cell batteries for them.&lt;br&gt;
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There are also linux drivers for all of the components.&lt;br&gt;
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The only downside that I can think of is that there&apos;s no on-board optical drive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:36:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mbrubeck</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/65417/What-are-some-small-swift-laptops-without-Vista#983776</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been looking at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dataevolution.com/cathena_cx_info.htm&quot;&gt;Cathena CX convertible tablet/sub-notebook&lt;/a&gt;, which is only 2 pounds and comes with XP.  With 1GB of RAM, it costs US$900.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 19:52:02 -0800</pubDate>
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