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		<title>Question: Graphic Novel Recommendations (Superhero Genre Preferred)</title>
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		<description>I am looking for recommendations for some good graphic novels.  More inside...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:59:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tallguy</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: lotsofno</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132850</link>	
		<description>kabuki&lt;br&gt;
books of magic (not names of magic or age of magic)&lt;br&gt;
iron wok jan</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:02:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tallguy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132851</link>	
		<description>As a kid I collected comics during the mid-80&apos;s.  It was almost exclusively Marvel, and I have especially fond memories of the X-Men (the Mutant Massacre saga, Wolverine and Kitty Pride, etc.), New Mutants, and others, but I probably collected every title in the Marvel line for awhile.  In the intervening years I have read only a handful of comics.  A few Sandman issues, the Watchmen, and the Dark Knight Returns.  Recently, I decided I would like to rediscover comics.  So far I have picked up Koslowski&apos;s &quot;Three Fingers&quot; (liked), &quot;The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen&quot; (liked), Busiek and Ross&apos;s &quot;Marvels&quot; (really liked), and all of the Astro City graphic novels (really, really liked).  I have no interest in collecting a regular comic series, so graphic novels are perfect.  I would love to get some recommendations from the MeFi community.  I probably have more interest in the superhero titles, but since I have barely sampled the non-superhero titles I would like to explore that too.  Ideas?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:02:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tallguy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mkultra</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132856</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;100 Bullets&lt;/i&gt;, by Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso, is one of the (if not &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt;) best ongoing series right now, and has quite a few collections in GN format. Needs to be read in order.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;The Invisibles&lt;/i&gt;, by Grant Morrison. Needs to be read in order (or does it?).&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;Hellboy&lt;/i&gt;, by Mike Mignola. Way better than the movie. Self-contained stories.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;From Hell&lt;/i&gt;, by Alan Moore (of &lt;i&gt;Watchmen&lt;/i&gt; fame).&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;Y The Last Man&lt;/i&gt;, by Brian K. Vaughan. Needs to be read in order.&lt;br&gt;
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If you liked &lt;i&gt;Marvels&lt;/i&gt;, you might like &lt;i&gt;Kingdom Come&lt;/i&gt;. Same creative team, but different story (future history of the DC universe).&lt;br&gt;
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They&apos;re hard to find these days, and bulky and pricey, but the &lt;i&gt;Akira&lt;/i&gt; collections are good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:11:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stynxno</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132858</link>	
		<description>Watchmen, Sandman, Spider-man:Blue and Daredevi: yellow (the large scale format makes the art that much better), second kingdom come, johnny the homicidal maniac, squee, v is for vendetta&lt;br&gt;
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and there&apos;s more but i can&apos;t think of them off the top of my head :\&lt;br&gt;
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keep us posted about good ones you fine! i&apos;m always looking for new material myself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:15:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stynxno</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: shotsy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132859</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grovel.org.uk/reviews/hardbo01/hardbo01.htm&quot;&gt;Hard Boiled&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930289560/102-4193204-9054545?v=glance&quot;&gt;Arkham Asylum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fantagraphics.com/artist/acme/acme.html&quot;&gt;Jimmy Corrigan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fantagraphics.com/artist/sacco/sacco.html&quot;&gt;Safe Area Gorazde&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:17:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shotsy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Stynxno</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132861</link>	
		<description>whoops, saw you read the watchmen. Read it again! :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:17:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stynxno</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Capn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132869</link>	
		<description>Art Spiegelman&apos;s &lt;i&gt;MAUS&lt;/i&gt;, parts 1 and 2, of course&lt;br&gt;
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All of Sandman, or at least from &lt;i&gt;A Game of You On&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;Acme Novelty Library&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Jimmy Corrigan, World&apos;s Smartest Boy&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve heard that Chester Brown&apos;s &lt;i&gt; Louis Riel: A Comic Strip Biography&lt;/i&gt; is quite good, but haven&apos;t read it yet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:27:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Capn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: LionIndex</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132870</link>	
		<description>I fullheartedly second Jimmy Corrigan (if possible, the hardbound version w/dust jacket).  The creator&apos;s company, Fantagraphics, does nothing but good work.  But it&apos;s kinda depressing.&lt;br&gt;
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Also both volumes of Maus.  Also depressing.&lt;br&gt;
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On preview:  dammit, capn!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:30:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eldritch</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132871</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Transmetropolitan&lt;/i&gt;. I can&apos;t recommend this one enough. Totally amazing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Anything written by Warren Ellis. Seriously. His time on &lt;i&gt;Stormwatch,&lt;/i&gt; plus &lt;i&gt;Authority&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Planetary&lt;/i&gt; are all awesome. I haven&apos;t read everything he&apos;s done, but I&apos;d like to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
I&apos;d be remiss in discussing Graphic Novels not to mention (mention? proselytize, more like it!) &lt;i&gt;Sandman&lt;/i&gt;, if you haven&apos;t already read a lot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
For old-school crossover madness, I enjoyed DC&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Crisis on Infinite Earths&lt;/i&gt; and Marvel&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Secret Wars&lt;/i&gt; trade paperbacks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
I&apos;ll second the recommendations for &lt;i&gt;J:THM&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Squee&lt;/i&gt;. Fantastic stuff, and &lt;i&gt;Squee&lt;/i&gt; is worth it just to get the &quot;Meanwhile&quot;s from the J:THM comics that were left out of the trade paperback (Hilarious interstitial minicomics).</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:34:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eldritch</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rocketman</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132873</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t recommend &lt;i&gt;From Hell&lt;/i&gt; enough. &lt;i&gt;Watchmen&lt;/i&gt; is fantastic from a perspective of pure fiction, but Moore&apos;s historical fiction in &lt;i&gt;From Hell&lt;/i&gt;, especially if you read the citations in the back as you progress through the book, will completely knock you off your feet.&lt;br&gt;
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It is meticulously researched and expertly constructed.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:38:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rocketman</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: crush-onastick</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132875</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strangersinparadise.com/&quot;&gt;strangers in paradise&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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characters, rather than heros.  and funny.&lt;br&gt;
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and definitely maus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:46:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 111</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132878</link>	
		<description>If you have to read one:  the unsurpassed, greatest masterpiece of the genre, Watchmen.&lt;br&gt;
If you have to read two: W + From Hell.&lt;br&gt;
Others: Arkham Asylum (which, as far as I remember, started the whole GN trend), The Killing Joke (which is rather a Graphic novella, so to speak), Batman Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, Elektra Assassin, Stray Toasters, Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron, V for Vendetta and the x-rated Black Kiss are also good. &lt;br&gt;
You get the idea: Alan Moore is the very best and that&apos;s it. The others follow suit.&lt;br&gt;
ps: don&apos;t avoid but don&apos;t overestimate the visually interesting but dorky and self-important Chris Ware.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:50:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jessamyn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132883</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve been reading a lot of non-superhero graphic novels lately. Some that are particularly good are: &lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.night-flight.com/Vachss/hardlooks.html&quot;&gt;Hard Looks&lt;/a&gt; stories by Andrew Vachss, drawn by others -- very very dark stories, non-superhero&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robotfist.com/040114/040114_51.htm&quot;&gt;Blankets&lt;/a&gt; by Craig Thomson -- full length graphic novel about first love, bad families, church camp, etc. A good quality version of the non-superhero variety.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artbomb.net/detail.jsp?gid=17&amp;tid=283&quot;&gt;After the Snooter&lt;/a&gt; by Eddie Campbell -- good companion to From Hell. Same illustrator writing about himself instead of fiction stuff&lt;br&gt;
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Also recommend anything by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drizzle.com/~kathleen/Comix/sacco.html&quot;&gt;Joe Sacco&lt;/a&gt;. He&apos;s an amazing illustrator hand has written several graphic novels about war torn areas like &lt;em&gt;Safe Area Gorazde&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Palestine&lt;/em&gt;. Riveting storytelling, good illustration.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:58:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tallguy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132889</link>	
		<description>Great recommendations.  Keep them coming!&lt;br&gt;
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Also, if I am going to order online, is there a good source?  I would prefer to order from a smaller venue, but Amazon&apos;s free shipping and 30% off most of the titles I have checked is tough to beat.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:08:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tallguy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: yerfatma</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132891</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Anything written by Warren Ellis. Seriously. His time on Stormwatch, plus Authority and Planetary are all awesome.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Yeah. &lt;em&gt;Transmetropolitan&lt;/em&gt; didn&apos;t really do it for me, but everything else is awesome. Be careful on &lt;em&gt;StormWatch&lt;/em&gt; as much of the first volume is not Ellis. As for other books, I just read &lt;em&gt;V for Vendetta&lt;/em&gt; and loved it. In, pure superheroes, &lt;em&gt;Red Son&lt;/em&gt; (think that&apos;s the name-- it&apos;s Superman in Soviet Russia).&lt;br&gt;
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I would put Brian Michael Bendis on the same level as Ellis.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:12:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Capn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132893</link>	
		<description>Tallguy, support your local comic book shop, they need your business, and if you stay away from The Guy In The Batman Shirt Who Won&apos;t Stop Talking (every comicbook shop has one, prove me wrong!) they will be useful in the &quot;if you liked that, you may also enjoy this&quot; department.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:13:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Capn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: GeekAnimator</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132895</link>	
		<description>Viz Communications have started reprinting Miyazaki&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1591164087/qid=1081883527/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3/103-1563763-1246253&quot;&gt;Nausicaa&lt;/a&gt; graphic novels. I couldn&apos;t recommend anything more highly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:15:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bobo123</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132897</link>	
		<description>You should find this list useful.... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/columnist/arnold/article/0,9565,547796,00.html&quot;&gt;Andrew Arnold - A Graphic Literature Library&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Blankets was okay, I&apos;d still recommend it. I&apos;ve heard some people say that the good reviews was more for the concept (a 600 page graphic novel that wasn&apos;t serialized first, but published all at once like a novel) than the story. This might be the way more &quot;art&quot; comics are published in the future, Chester Brown&apos;s Louis Riel has sold so well in the book format that his publisher suggested abandoning doing a serial of his next work and going straight to a graphic novel.&lt;br&gt;
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There seems to be a growing trend of older readers ignoring or abandoning monthly &quot;pamphlets&quot; and instead buying comics in book format, and some younger readers who are buying stuff like Chobits and Rouruni Kenshin (both good titles) in the 200 page volume format.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:18:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: COBRA!</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132898</link>	
		<description>Also, Grant Morrison&apos;s recently-completed run on X-Men is available in trade paperback form (I believe the last volume is just about to come out; or it could be already, not sure), and it&apos;s well worth a look.  It&apos;s a self-contained story spanning about 40 issues, and it leans a lot more towards science fiction than superheroism.  No spandex in the book.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:20:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Termite</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132899</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Domu&lt;/em&gt;, by Katsuhiro Otomo &lt;br&gt;
&lt;small&gt;Otomo is famous for the &lt;em&gt;Akira &lt;/em&gt;story. This is another album by him, much shorter, set in  contemporary Japan. Cops investigate a block of flats where too many people commit suicide, but they fail to understand what&apos;s going on below the surface. Nothing made in the West looks or feels like this comic. &lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Enki Bilal - see some of his drawings &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bilal.enki.free.fr/oeuvres.php3?quelles_oeuvres=albums&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Joe Sacco &lt;br&gt;
&lt;small&gt;Journalism through comics seems impossible, but Sacco just pulls it off. This is good.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Tardi &amp;amp; Legrand: &lt;i&gt;Roach Killer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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... and did anyone mention the Hernandez bros. &lt;em&gt;Love &amp;amp; Rockets&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fantagraphics.com/&quot;&gt;Fantagraphics.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is where you go for the interesting stuff.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;&lt;em&gt;From Hell&lt;/em&gt;: overrated. They manage to make the story of Jack the Ripper boring and dull.  The obsessive footnotes are the best part of it. The drawings are lousy.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:21:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Termite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Orange Goblin</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132900</link>	
		<description>Another vote for Transmetropolitan here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:22:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Orange Goblin</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sad_otter</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132901</link>	
		<description>Technically it&apos;s a mini-series compiled into graphic novel form, but Miller and Sienkiewicz&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0871353091&quot;&gt;Elektra: Assassin&lt;/a&gt; is pretty incredible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:23:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sad_otter</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: grum@work</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132905</link>	
		<description>Do you just want &quot;graphic novels&quot;, or are series collected into &quot;trade paperbacks&quot; okay as well?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
If so, these series are in TPB format now and are quite good:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Powers&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;  - superheroes in a real world setting...sort of.  Don&apos;t bother with any of the series after #30 though.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Invincible&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; - the son of a superhero gets powers himself.  Nice and sweet treatment, and the art is refreshingly simple.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Supreme Power&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; - the old Marvel Squadron Supreme redone.  Very harsh, but entirely engrossing.  The series is up to #9, but the first 6 issues are in TPB format.  My favourite continuing series right now.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Top Ten&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; - by Alan Moore.  There are only two TPB for this series, but they are both fantastic.  It&apos;s the &quot;whole world has superpowers&quot; storyline, but his attention to detail in the background (and storytelling) is wonderful.  If you liked Watchmen, you&apos;ll like this one too.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Tom Tomorrow&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; - also by Alan Moore.  Really, everything he does is pretty much gold.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:29:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tdismukes</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132907</link>	
		<description>All of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0785111417/qid=1081884147/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/102-3884992-9956916?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot;&gt; Alias&lt;/a&gt; collections by Brian Bendis are very good.  It&apos;s the story of a failed superhero (in the Marvel universe) who works as a private investigator.  The dialogue and character development are miles beyond anybody except Gaiman &amp;amp; Moore.&lt;br&gt;
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Once you&apos;ve read through the Sandman collections, you &apos;ll probably appreciate &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563899353/qid=1081884271/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/102-3884992-9956916?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;The Furies&lt;/a&gt; by Mike Carey, but you&apos;ll need to read the Sandman issues first or you&apos;ll be lost.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:30:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nicwolff</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132910</link>	
		<description>I thought &lt;a href=&quot;http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563899426&quot;&gt;Fables&lt;/a&gt; was very clever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:32:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: robocop is bleeding</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132912</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re going with the Marvel stuff, I&apos;ve found the Ultimate relaunches to be pretty fun. I couldn&apos;t read comics, esp. X-Men, for the longest time because of the seeming cast of thousands and plot threads from ten years back.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
After the success of a few of the Marvel properties on the big screen, they relaunched X-Men, Spider-man, Daredevil, and a few others, updating them to recent years and trimming away some of the latent fat from the 80s/early 90s.&lt;br&gt;
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Also, anything with &quot;Batman&quot; and &quot;Jeph Loeb&quot; on the cover is worthwhile.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:34:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 111</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132921</link>	
		<description>About sad_otter&apos;s comments re Elektra: Assassin, which is very complex btw, let me add that Frank Miller&apos;s Elektra Lives Again (four years in the making if I recall correctly and visually revolutionary) is also essential. And for completeness sake, it&apos;s not even a GN, as it is being serialized  by Fantagraphics, but Charles Burns&apos; &quot;Black Hole&quot; is the only comic book I ever read that made me feel I was literally stepping into someone else&apos;s dream. It&apos;s a masterpiece. &lt;br&gt;
OK, last one: Dylan Horrocks&apos; Hicksville. Excellent!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:46:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>111</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Skot</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132926</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m pretty sure grum meant to say &lt;b&gt;Tom Strong&lt;/b&gt; by Moore.&lt;br&gt;
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Also, if you&apos;re into the very twisted with a large dash of head trauma, check out Garth Ennis&apos; &lt;i&gt;Preacher&lt;/i&gt; series.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:55:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Skot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: teg</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132928</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comicsworthreading.com/cwr.html&quot;&gt;Comics Worth Reading&lt;/a&gt; can give you some good pointers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:57:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dean King</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132929</link>	
		<description>A friend who&apos;s really into comics recently came to visit and brought me a bunch of stuff to read. I liked &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ninthart.com/display.php?article=731&quot;&gt;Sleeper&lt;/a&gt; most of all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:59:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean King</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: grum@work</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132930</link>	
		<description>Skot: Yes, &lt;strong&gt;Tom Strong&lt;/strong&gt;, not &lt;strong&gt;Tom Tomorrow&lt;/strong&gt;.  I have no idea where THAT came from.  Thanks for the correction.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:02:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ulotrichous</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132931</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t believe nobody&apos;s mentioned the outstanding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boneville.com/&quot;&gt;BONE&lt;/a&gt; yet.  Still in progress, but there are several TPBs.  &lt;br&gt;
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And grum@work, I think you mean &lt;a href=&quot;http://continuitypages.com/tomstrong.htm&quot;&gt;Tom Strong&lt;/a&gt;, not &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thismodernworld.com/&quot;&gt;Tom Tomorrow&lt;/a&gt;, although I do think that Sparky&#8482; is overdue for the Dark Knight treatment.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:02:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132934</link>	
		<description>Jason Lutes&apos; &lt;i&gt;Jar of Fools&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Berlin&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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And &lt;i&gt;Jimmy Corrigan, World&apos;s Smartest Boy&lt;/i&gt; is fantastic.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:04:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: grefo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132937</link>	
		<description>Does &quot;Understanding Comics&quot; by Scott McCloud qualify?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:13:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: furiousthought</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132944</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Barefoot Gen&lt;/i&gt; is an interesting companion piece to &lt;i&gt;Maus&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Most anything drawn by Kyle Baker (&lt;i&gt;Why I Hate Saturn, The Cowboy Wally show&lt;/i&gt;) is a lot of fun.&lt;br&gt;
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Carol Lay&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Now, Endsville&lt;/i&gt;, if you can find it.&lt;br&gt;
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Usagi Yojimbo, especially the later ones.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
If you want to jump into Cerebus, start with &lt;i&gt;High Society.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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More as I think of them.  About everything mentioned in this thread is seconded as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:36:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jdroth</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132948</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re an old Marvel fan, you might also want to consider doing what I&apos;m doing: collect either the Essentials compilations or the Masterworks compilations.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The Marvel Essentials collect 20-25 issues of a series in B&amp;amp;W format on cheap paper. They cost about $15/each (though you can find them for less on eBay). If you don&apos;t care about color, they&apos;re a great way to go. Long stretches of all the major titles are available, and a couple of new volumes are published every year. (I think the X-Men will be updated through the Mutant Massacre this year.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
If you must have color, there are the Marvel Masterworks editions. These lavish volumes are more expensive ($40? $50?) and of much higher quality. They collect about ten issues of continuity. They&apos;re a joy to read. But expensive.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
DC has a similar, more extensive, line called the DC Archives. These, too, are beautiful volumes. But if you&apos;re like me, DC titles can seem a little, well, weak. Still, there&apos;s some good stuff if you know where to look.&lt;br&gt;
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If you liked Astro City and Marvels, I think you&apos;d also like Powers and Top 10. &lt;br&gt;
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All of the above are compilations rather than graphic novels, of course, so I haven&apos;t really addressed your question. :/&lt;br&gt;
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The Comics Worth Reading site&apos;s classics sidebar is great.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
On preview: I disagree re: starting Cerebus with High Society. Start from the beginning. The beginning is fun, and Dave Sim doesn&apos;t have a cob up his ass yet. If you start Cerebus from the beginning, you can keep holding out hope that it&apos;ll return to the &quot;old days&quot;. Then you&apos;ll reach Melmoth and realize that it&apos;s never going to get better! :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:53:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bonehead</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132952</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you want to jump into Cerebus, start with High Society...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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...and stop around the end of, say, &lt;em&gt;Jaka&apos;s Story&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:01:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PinkStainlessTail</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132955</link>	
		<description>Matt Wagner&apos;s various &lt;em&gt;Grendel&lt;/em&gt; series are quite good. And I second the recommendation for &lt;i&gt;Nausicaa&lt;/i&gt;. I&apos;m currently quite enjoying &lt;i&gt;Excel Saga&lt;/i&gt;, but a bit of a grounding in manga/anime is helpful to get some of the references (each volume has copious footnotes). Larry Marder&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proaxis.com/~half/BeanWeb/Miscellany/BeanworldPress.html&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tales of the Beanworld&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; was pretty great. Does anybody know what happened to him? I&apos;ve been out of the loop but it seems like the work just stopped. Scott Saavedra&apos;s &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://store.slavelabor.com/drc1info.shtml&quot;&gt;Dr. Radium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is being rereleased.&lt;br&gt;
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Hmmm. I think I may be dating myself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:09:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yerfatma</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132956</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll second the Marvel Ultimates collection. If you like superhero stuff at all, Bendis&apos; Ultimate Spiderman is can&apos;t-miss. I also liked the Avegers relaunch as wel, but I was amazed by how good Spiderman was.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:15:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hsoltz</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132961</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m surprised that no one has mentioned &lt;i&gt;Road to Perdition&lt;/i&gt; by Max Allan Collins - a dark period piece about sin, redemption, and father-son relationships. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;small&gt;I haven&apos;t seen the film...if the movie-ification kept anyone from recommending the graphic novel, don&apos;t hesitate to pick up the original.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:31:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tallguy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132970</link>	
		<description>I want to thank everyone for all these great pointers!  Almost 40 posts in just over 3 hours.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
When I originally posted this, I was thinking of this as a long term project.  But the recommendations got me so psyched I gathered up my 4 mo old and headed off to the local comic shops because I could not wait.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I just got back from the stores with Maus, Jimmy Corrigan, the first two 100 Bullets,  Palestine, the first two Transmetropolitans, and the start of Sandman.  I will let you know what I think.  Also, don&apos;t let this be an end to the recommendations, since I am sure I will be back for more soon. ;)&lt;br&gt;
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And to clarify some questions, I don&apos;t really care whether it is a trade paperback, a graphic novel, or a collection.  I am just less interested in a regular serial comics since my time to go to the store is so irregular and I would much prefer a self-contained story (more-or-less) at this point in my life and my level of interest.&lt;br&gt;
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As for the Marvel Essentials, I have considered them several times in the past.  But I have to say that I really miss the color.  Dropping color from comics that originally had it seems to rob something from the presentation.  I am glad to hear there are also series of old comics with the color included.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:44:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drezdn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132982</link>	
		<description>Second most choices... I would also like to add &quot;Box Office Poison&quot; by Alex Robinson and the &quot;Starman&quot; graphic novels by James Robinson.&lt;br&gt;
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Stay away from &quot;Bulletproof Monk.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:07:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#132985</link>	
		<description>I rather liked &quot;Midnight Nation.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:18:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TBoneMcCool</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#133052</link>	
		<description>Here are a few more for your reading list: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artbomb.net/detail.jsp?idx=2&amp;cid=181&amp;tid=177&quot;&gt;Pop Gun War&lt;/a&gt; (from Farel Dalrymple, a rising star in the graphic novel biz), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artbomb.net/detail.jsp?idx=5&amp;tid=277&quot;&gt;Summer Blonde&lt;/a&gt; (much much better than the title would suggest) and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artbomb.net/detail.jsp?idx=2&amp;tid=97&quot;&gt;David Boring&lt;/a&gt; (from the same guy who brought us &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artbomb.net/detail.jsp?idx=2&amp;tid=150&quot;&gt;Ghost World&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:59:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: furiousthought</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#133068</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I disagree re: starting Cerebus with High Society. Start from the beginning. The beginning is fun, and Dave Sim doesn&apos;t have a cob up his ass yet.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I&apos;m not saying don&apos;t ever read it, just that you may not want to start with it, because it&apos;s &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; rough at the very beginning.  bonehead&apos;s right about when to stop, by the way.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m out of other suggestions, unfortunately, except for a personal favorite in graphic nonfiction, the mighty and fearless &lt;i&gt;Cartoon History of the Universe&lt;/i&gt;.  And...&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
*snaps fingers*&lt;br&gt;
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Not a soul here has mentioned Will Eisner, huh?  I&apos;m really looking forward to his book about The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, that is, if I can remember it when it comes out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 17:22:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/6499/Graphic-Novel-Recommendations-Superhero-Genre-Preferred#133080</link>	
		<description>Wow, nice work! I just read Sacco&apos;s new book, &lt;i&gt;The Fixer&lt;/i&gt;, and the latest ish of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/home.php&quot;&gt;Drawn and Quarterly&lt;/a&gt;, both of which I enjoyed and both of which are published by the Canadian DnQ.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
And I&apos;m gonna wave my hands around in the air for Thompson&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalog.php?title=194&quot;&gt;Blankets&lt;/a&gt;, which points the way toward a new school of American literary comics, if people can get over the &apos;teenage love story&apos; angle long enough to actually read the huge thing. It&apos;s like 600 pages long. And it&apos;s fantastic.&lt;br&gt;
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I gotta speak up for Old Europe, though.&lt;br&gt;
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I recently read Tardi&apos;s adaptation of the first of Leo Malet&apos;s Nestor Burma books, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graphic_novels/new_graphic_novel2445.htm&quot;&gt;The Bloody Streets of Paris&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, on the newish ibooks label, and it was wonderful. Drawing &lt;i&gt;bandes dessinees&lt;/i&gt; in Europe is a much better-compensated and respected profession than it is here, and therefore there are by now three generations of European creators to check out.&lt;br&gt;
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Surely everyone&apos;s heard of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.francetv.fr/jeunesse/momes/tintin/en/index.html&quot;&gt;Tintin&lt;/a&gt; [flash] by now - Spielberg&apos;s even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/11/23/1037697929393.html&quot;&gt;making a movie&lt;/a&gt; featuring the plucky, ageless boy reporter. The other well-known long-running European series that&apos;s easily accessible in English is of course the saga of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asterix.tm.fr/&quot;&gt;Asterix the Gaul&lt;/a&gt; (you&apos;ll have to pick your lingo, and truth be told, I did it for you on the Tintin site, sorry). Of course, Asterix hasn&apos;t had the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133385/&quot;&gt;best luck with movies&lt;/a&gt;, so I&apos;m trying not to get worked up about Tintin.&lt;br&gt;
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And, I really must emphasize, in European comics, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nbmpub.com/&quot;&gt;there is&lt;/a&gt; so &lt;a href=&quot;http://lcg-www.uia.ac.be/~erikt/comics/welcome.html&quot;&gt;much more...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: calistasm</title>
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		<description>Coming in a bit late in the game, but I highly recommend Kaiji Kawaguchi&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=4-1569314586-0&quot;&gt;Eagle: The Making of an Asian-American President&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s a pretty huge series, but at least it&apos;s cheap.&lt;br&gt;
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I also [number] Transmetropolitan. Spider Jersualem is my hero.</description>
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		<title>By: o2b</title>
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		<description>Forgive me my duplicates, but I&apos;m a big sucker for graphic novels.&lt;br&gt;
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I just read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560975393/qid=1081909300/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3_xs_stripbooks_i3_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Palomar: The Heartbreak Soup Stories (Love and Rockets)&lt;/a&gt; -- awesome awesome awesome. Incredible writing, especially of female characters. As a bonus, it&apos;s a &lt;em&gt;huge&lt;/em&gt; book -- coffee table-sized. It took me days to finish it.&lt;br&gt;
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I second, triple and quintuple any suggestion for The Dark Knight Returns, it&apos;s well worth a re-read; it has held up better than most. Oh, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0785108904/qid=1081912444/sr=1-3/ref=pd_ka_3/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Elektra Lives Again&lt;/a&gt; is amazing, and (I almost forgot) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930289218/qid=1081912444/sr=5-3/ref=cm_lm_asin/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;Ronin&lt;/a&gt; is right up there. You know what, here&apos;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/listmania/list-browse/-/21R8RBK7I8CBF/qid=1081912444/sr=5-3/ref=sr_5_3/104-0901669-9079122&quot;&gt;Amazon list for Frank Miller stuff&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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I agree with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930289560/qid=1081910262/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_stripbooks_i1_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Arkham Asylum&lt;/a&gt; votes as well. While I&apos;m not sure it started the whole graphic novel trend, it is surely a milestone for &quot;comic as art&quot; with its fully painted pages. It&apos;s certainly the darkest graphic novel I have ever read.&lt;br&gt;
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The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1569714983/qid=1081910235/sr=1-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Akira&lt;/a&gt; books can be found at Barnes and Noble these days, but not all of them. Keep going back as they replenish. Then there&apos;s always &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1569710813/qid=1081910419/sr=5-1/ref=cm_lm_asin/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;The Ghost in the Shell&lt;/a&gt; for classic (almost cliche) anime appeal, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1569715025/qid=1081910478/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_stripbooks_i1_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Wolf and Cub&lt;/a&gt; for pocket anime appeal, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1582401500/ref=pd_sim_books_3/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Kabuki&lt;/a&gt; for painted anime appeal.&lt;br&gt;
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Are you including trade paperbacks? DC&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563897504/qid=1081910203/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_stripbooks_i1_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Crisis on Infinite Earths&lt;/a&gt; is the original &quot;worlds end so we can shake up our universe&quot; series.&lt;br&gt;
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The whole &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563890976/qid=1081910122/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_stripbooks_i1_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Death of a Superman&lt;/a&gt; series is worth reading -- a bit melodramatic, but what about Superman isn&apos;t? In the same skein, Batman&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563891425/qid=1081910156/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_stripbooks_i1_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Knightfall&lt;/a&gt; is good too.&lt;br&gt;
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For literary and &quot;comic as history&quot; appeal I re-suggest the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679748407/qid=1081910014/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_xs_stripbooks_i2_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Maus&lt;/a&gt; books. For academic and &quot;comics explained&quot; appeal, I strongly suggest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/006097625X/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;st=*&quot;&gt;Understanding Comics&lt;/a&gt; (skip the sequel, unless you have a deep interest in the minutiae of the comic industry). For &quot;illustrated classics&quot; look at &quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400047951/ref=cm_bg_d_20/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&amp;gt;The Metamorphosis&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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While not comic books, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811806960/qid=1081909963/sr=1-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Griffin and Sabine&lt;/a&gt; books are amazing for their artistry and storytelling. These are &lt;em&gt;great&lt;/em&gt; gifts.&lt;br&gt;
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Chris Ware&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375714545/qid=1081910638/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_xs_stripbooks_i1_xgl14/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Jimmy Corrigan, etc&lt;/a&gt; is a &lt;em&gt;bit&lt;/em&gt; over-hyped, but not much, and there&apos;s no doubt it&apos;s an amazing piece of both fiction and comic art. If the hype brings in more non-comic readers to the graphic novel, I say more power to it. Also recommended is his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560974559/qid=/sr=/ref=cm_lm_asin/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;Quimby the Mouse&lt;/a&gt;, with the same caveat.&lt;br&gt;
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Slightly off the beaten path (but not really, as it&apos;s still DC) is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563896486/qid=1081910638/sr=5-2/ref=cm_lm_asin/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;Planetary: All Over the World and Other Stories&lt;/a&gt;, about a team of superhuman archelogists.&lt;br&gt;
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For a true &quot;illustrated novel&quot;, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1891830430/qid=1081910638/sr=5-2/ref=cm_lm_asin/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;Blankets&lt;/a&gt;, a touching coming of age story. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1891830090/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/104-0901669-9079122&quot;&gt;Goodbye Chunky Rice&lt;/a&gt;, by the same author, is worthwhile as well.&lt;br&gt;
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Has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560974273/qid=1081910638/sr=5-1/ref=cm_lm_asin/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;Ghost World&lt;/a&gt; been mentioned? (Along with the follow-up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375406921/qid=/sr=/ref=cm_lm_asin/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;David Boring&lt;/a&gt;.) Or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930289528/ref=cm_bg_d_10/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;V for Vendetta&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br&gt;
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Some folks will remeber &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1401201245/ref=cm_bg_d_18/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&quot;&gt;The Maxx&lt;/a&gt; from MTV&apos;s Liquid Televison.&lt;br&gt;
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I have to repeat the suggestion for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930289234/ref=pd_sxp_f/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Watchmen&lt;/a&gt;, while asking you not to forget about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563893304/ref=pd_sim_books_3/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;Kingdom Come&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563898586/ref=pd_sim_books_5/104-0901669-9079122?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot;&gt;The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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Last thought; I&apos;m not by any means suggesting this isn&apos;t a good AskMe question, but Amazon is the perfect place for this kind of research -- I usually find their user-created guides and lists very very on target, like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/2MWJRY44HW30/ref=cm_bg_lm/104-0901669-9079122&quot;&gt;this guide to Sandman&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:21:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jjg</title>
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		<description>Seconding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2003/07/21/yorick/&quot;&gt;Y: The Last Man&lt;/a&gt;, the book that single-handedly restored my faith in mainstream comics. Inventive, engaging, and sharply written. The third collection has just been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1401202012/&quot;&gt;released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;And Termite is totally, totally wrong about &lt;em&gt;From Hell&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2004 20:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: britain</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robotfist.com/030604/030604_51.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Hard Boiled&quot;&lt;/a&gt; by Frank Miller &amp;amp; Geof Darrow -- and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dnaco.net/~mobrien/rusty/comic.html&quot;&gt;&quot;The Big Guy &amp;amp; Rusty the Boy Robot,&quot;&lt;/a&gt; which is a much lighter story in the same hyperdetailed Darrow style, minus the heavy violence and sexual content.  [There was a Fox cartoon series based on BG&amp;amp;R, never saw it.]&lt;br&gt;
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Hollywood liked Garth &quot;Preacher&quot; Ennis&apos; &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=8656&quot;&gt;Punisher comics&lt;/a&gt; so much they used them as the basis for the new film [which I haven&apos;t seen].  I guess that&apos;s not a particularly ringing endorsement.  But I liked them way better than other Punisher series by less black-humored writers.&lt;br&gt;
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I liked several of the books &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onipress.com/freecomic/&quot;&gt;on this page&lt;/a&gt; [links on page are to PDFs] when I bought them in their paper forms [specifically, Blue Monday by Chynna Clugston-Major, Whiteout by Rucka and Lieber, and all the Barry Ween books by Judd Winick].&lt;br&gt;
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Last summer, I read &quot;Beg the Question&quot; by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.neurobellum.com/wage/wagemain.htm&quot;&gt;Bob Fingerman&lt;/a&gt;, that was a pretty entertaining autobiographical comic.  [At least, I thought it was autobiographical, until the author appeared in a chapter late in the book to give the protagonist career advice.]&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/~dml/SamNMax/samnmax.html&quot;&gt;&quot;Sam &amp;amp; Max&quot;&lt;/a&gt; by Steve Purcell, and anything by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.houseoffun.com/&quot;&gt;Evan Dorkin&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kylebaker.com/&quot;&gt;Kyle Baker&lt;/a&gt;.  [Did they ever make a collection of all the Instant Piano comics?  I&apos;d buy that for a dollar or twenty.]&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;No Amazon kickback links here.  Go to your library and request them, I&apos;ve found they can get just about any book in the universe through the magic of Interlibrary Loan.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:04:19 -0800</pubDate>
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