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  	<title>Question: Help me find a book for family bookclub</title>
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  	<description>FictionFilter:  Family bookclub.  We&apos;re convening in Woodstock at the end of August to discuss 3 books.  Help me choose one of them.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I&apos;m looking for a book that&apos;s preferably shorter than 300 pages and covers several of the topics below:&lt;br&gt;
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Travel&lt;br&gt;
Nature&lt;br&gt;
Music and Art&lt;br&gt;
Santa Fe, New Mexico&lt;br&gt;
Western appropriations of Eastern Philosophy&lt;br&gt;
Rationalist critiques of mysticism&lt;br&gt;
Kitsch&lt;br&gt;
Pastiche and bricolage&lt;br&gt;
Defenders of the faith&lt;br&gt;
Entrepreneurialism&lt;br&gt;
Istanbul, Turkey&lt;br&gt;
Capitalism and its discontents&lt;br&gt;
Bohemians and the bourgeoisie, and criticisms of both&lt;br&gt;
Postcolonialism and globalization&lt;br&gt;
Goddess feminism and cyberfeminism&lt;br&gt;
Poststructuralism&lt;br&gt;
Baseball&lt;br&gt;
Aliens&lt;br&gt;
Intellectual property&lt;br&gt;
Psychoanalysis&lt;br&gt;
Food&lt;br&gt;
The public sphere and gated communities&lt;br&gt;
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I can&apos;t wait to see what the metafilterblob recommends.  It has great taste in books.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 08:55:30 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: four panels</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950472</link>	
  	<description>White Noise, DeLillo.   Essential reading.&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;quot;There&apos;s a theory about d&#xe9;ja vu.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;quot;I don&apos;t want to hear it.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;quot;Why do we think these things happened before? Simple. They did happen before, in our minds, as visions of the future. Because these are precognitions, we can&apos;t fit the material into our system of consciousness as it is now structured. This is basically supernatural stuff. We&apos;re seeing into the future but haven&apos;t learned how to process the experience. So it stays hidden until the precognition comes true, until we come face to face with the event. Now we are free to remember it, to experience it as familiar material.&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;quot;Why are so many people having these episodes now?&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
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&amp;quot;Because death is in the air,&amp;quot; he said gently. &amp;quot;It is liberating suppressed material. It is getting us closer to things we haven&apos;t learned about ourselves. Most of us have probably seen our own death but haven&apos;t known how to make the material surface. Maybe when we die, the first thing we&apos;ll say is, &apos;I know this feeling. I was here before.&apos;&amp;quot;</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:19:49 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Terminal Verbosity</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950474</link>	
  	<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tortilla Curtain&lt;/strong&gt;, T.C. Boyle (with some measure of nature, Capitalism and its discontents, Bohemians and the bourgeoisie, Postcolonialism and globalization, the public sphere and gated communities)&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m scratching my head for an alien/baseball/rationalist critiques of mysticism book.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:20:34 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: deejay jaydee</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950477</link>	
  	<description>What about John Nichols&apos; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0805063749/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Milagro Beanfield War&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;not&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; about IP disputes, but it &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; about real property disputes, disputes that arise under a traditional legal doctrine upon which IP is (wrongfully, at times) based.  &lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s also about New Mexico, but not necessarily Santa Fe.  &lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s also about the public sphere, and you should be able to find Western appropriations of Eastern Philosophy, Rationalist critiques of mysticism, Defenders of the faith, Entrepreneurialism, Capitalism and its discontents, Bohemians and the bourgeoisie, and criticisms of both Postcolonialism and globalization in its pages . . . but you may have to look harder for some elements than others.  There may also be some aliens, too.  I know there&apos;s food involved.  &lt;br&gt;
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Oh, and it&apos;s a little longer than you want.  But a great book.  One many folks in my family read and loved for years and years.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:21:40 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: lalex</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950484</link>	
  	<description>The work of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_Butler&quot;&gt;Octavia Butler&lt;/a&gt; falls into several of these categories, most importantly &lt;b&gt;Aliens&lt;/b&gt;! I really like the short story collection &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1583226982/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Bloodchild&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, but her stand-alone novel &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindred_%28novel%29&quot;&gt;Kindred&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; is also terrific.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:26:15 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: ewkpates</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950486</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_/104-4111724-5202316?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=mystery+of+capital&quot;&gt;The Mystery of Capital&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:27:09 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: brina</title>
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  	<description>I&apos;m not sure why, but the first author who came to mind with these particular topics was Chaim Potok. In &amp;quot;The Chosen&amp;quot; he writes about faith, baseball, and to some extent rationalist critiques of mysticism. I would also say that gated communities, not meaning physical structures but rather closed communities, play into his writing a lot. In &amp;quot;Davita&apos;s Harp,&amp;quot; a lesser known book about a young girl whose parents are socialist activists, he writes about capitalism, the bourgeosie, mysticism, defenders of faith, the art of Picasso, etc.&lt;br&gt;
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Potok&apos;s best works are &amp;quot;The Chosen&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;My Name is Asher Lev,&amp;quot; which is about a young Hasidic artist. Most people have probably already read the former, but it&apos;s still worth revisiting.&lt;br&gt;
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His novels are short and deceptively easy to read. Potok might not be the very first author I&apos;d normally recommend, but he does seem to fit quite a few of your interests. And, you know, he&apos;s good.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:29:13 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: billtron</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950496</link>	
  	<description>Great suggestions so far!  Keep them coming!  &lt;br&gt;
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I should have been clearer in asking for fiction.  We&apos;re already reading one non-fiction book, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1586481983/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Banker to the Poor&lt;/a&gt;, so we&apos;d like something in a different form.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:31:25 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: mattbucher</title>
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  	<description>Running After Antelope by Scott Carrier&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1416500189/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Good Earth&lt;/a&gt; by Pearl S. Buck</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:32:19 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: vytae</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950508</link>	
  	<description>Your list immediately made me think of Edward Abbey.  He&apos;s written a lot of nonfiction, but his novel &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061129763/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Monkey Wrench Gang&lt;/a&gt; is also fantastic.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:37:59 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: vytae</title>
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  	<description>Oh, and Orson Scott Card&apos;s classic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0765342294/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Ender&apos;s Game&lt;/a&gt; covers aliens, postcolonialism and globalization, and (I&apos;d say) bits of &amp;quot;defenders of the faith&amp;quot; and psychoanalysis.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:42:09 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: robocop is bleeding</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950516</link>	
  	<description>I know zombies are all played out and stuff, but Max Brooks&apos; &lt;i&gt;World War Z&lt;/i&gt; covers a lot of your topics via its variety of narrators. From your list (and off the top of my head), it covers:&lt;br&gt;
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Travel&lt;br&gt;
Nature&lt;br&gt;
Western appropriations of Eastern Philosophy&lt;br&gt;
Kitsch&lt;br&gt;
Defenders of the faith&lt;br&gt;
Entrepreneurialism&lt;br&gt;
Capitalism and its discontents&lt;br&gt;
Bohemians and the bourgeoisie, and criticisms of both&lt;br&gt;
Postcolonialism and globalization&lt;br&gt;
Aliens&lt;br&gt;
Psychoanalysis&lt;br&gt;
Food&lt;br&gt;
The public sphere and gated communities&lt;br&gt;
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Also, it was a big hit at my wife&apos;s bookclub recently.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:42:49 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: otio</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950522</link>	
  	<description>Re: Bohemians and the bourgeoisie&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m in the middle of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060548452/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Among the Bohemians: Experiments in Living 1900-1939&lt;/a&gt;, which is fascinating. It&apos;s by a non-academic, an amateur of the type only England produces anymore, so the writing is clear and relatively jargon-free. In the same vein, I recently read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0394704150/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Banquet Years&lt;/a&gt; by Roger Shattuck, which is about French bohemianism and the birth of the avant-garde. Excellent introduction to the period and four of its most exemplary characters: Henri Rousseau, Satie, Jarry, and Appolinaire.&lt;br&gt;
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For the love of God, don&apos;t pick BoBos in Paradise.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:45:52 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: otio</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950532</link>	
  	<description>Oh Christ, missed the fiction part. Well, Gilbert Sorrentino&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.dalkeyarchive.com/book/each_book/140&quot;&gt;Imaginative Qualities of Actual Things&lt;/a&gt; is a brutal portrait of the New York bohemian scene in the 50s and 60s and I can&apos;t recommend it highly enough.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:51:05 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: gompa</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#950618</link>	
  	<description>Hanif Kureishi, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.litencyc.com/php/sworks.php?rec=true&amp;UID=1371&quot;&gt;The Buddha of Suburbia&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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Covers, at the very least, the following (especially the ones in boldface): &lt;br&gt;
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Western appropriations of Eastern Philosophy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Rationalist critiques of mysticism&lt;br&gt;
Kitsch&lt;br&gt;
Pastiche and bricolage&lt;br&gt;
Defenders of the faith&lt;br&gt;
Entrepreneurialism&lt;br&gt;
Capitalism and its discontents&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Bohemians and the bourgeoisie, and criticisms of both&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Postcolonialism and globalization&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Psychoanalysis&lt;br&gt;
Food&lt;br&gt;
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Ca. 288 pages, a very quick and fun read. Set in South London, which maybe also makes it &amp;quot;travel&amp;quot;?</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 11:02:58 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: lgyre</title>
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  	<description>_half asleep in frog pajamas_ touches on several of these themes, if you can stand tom robbins.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 13:08:56 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: saucysault</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#952289</link>	
  	<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oryxandcrake.co.uk/&quot;&gt;Oryx and Crake&lt;/a&gt; by Atwood is a dystopian novel with several of your themes, her books are really good fodder for book groups actually, very meaty.  The audiobook of World War z sounds awesome, I&apos;ll have to grab it. &lt;br&gt;
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Can I join your family?  That sounds like an awesome book club.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 19:37:48 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: saucysault</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/63162/Help-me-find-a-book-for-family-bookclub#954104</link>	
  	<description>After discussing the question with a friend she recommended &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_%28novel%29&quot;&gt;Snow&lt;/a&gt; which covers a lot of the themes but I also thought of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Name_is_Red&quot;&gt;My Name is Red&lt;/a&gt;, both by Nobel prize-winning author Orhan Pamuk (he&apos;s from Turkey, in case you didn&apos;t know, but both books have been translated into English).    Themes in both books are:&lt;br&gt;
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Western appropriations of Eastern Philosophy&lt;br&gt;
Rationalist critiques of mysticism&lt;br&gt;
Istanbul, Turkey&lt;br&gt;
Music and Art&lt;br&gt;
Defenders of the faith&lt;br&gt;
Entrepreneurialism&lt;br&gt;
Capitalism and its discontents&lt;br&gt;
Postcolonialism and globalization</description>
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  	<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 10:57:32 -0800</pubDate>
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