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	<title>Comments on: wireless security system</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:18:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: wireless security system</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/62071/wireless-security-system</link>	
		<description>Shopping for wireless security camera setup &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I need to buy a set of wireless security camera setup with digital video recording and ability to monitor live through web out side of a medium size retail store.&lt;br&gt;
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Because of the store&apos;s location, I can not use third party services.   &lt;br&gt;
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I need at least 5 or more camera system.  I don&apos;t need high quality video setup.  However, the system needs to be fairly dependable.  &lt;br&gt;
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I was looking at X10 systems... but I can not find good private reviews.&lt;br&gt;
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Any feedbacks will be apprecaited.  I have checked previous posts.. but I feel I need more info.&lt;br&gt;
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I am thinking to use one or two computer system with large Hard Drives... but I am not sure what I need get for cameras and anything that goes between the cam and the computer.  &lt;br&gt;
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I am willing to spend few thousands if needs to be...  and as I mentioned.. getting a third party service is extreamly hard to do.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:08:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>curiousleo</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: curiousleo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/62071/wireless-security-system#934267</link>	
		<description>I also have half dozen logitech webcams....  would that help?  what would be the drawback.?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:18:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>curiousleo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SirStan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/62071/wireless-security-system#934348</link>	
		<description>Just for something to look at.. I use a setup with Panasonic wireless webcam&apos;s at work.  We have 4 setup and record to harddrive.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=BL-C131A&amp;btnG=Search&quot;&gt;Google://BL-C131A&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 22:18:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: datacenter refugee</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/62071/wireless-security-system#934354</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t have an outright solution, but here&apos;s a few things you need to keep in mind:&lt;br&gt;
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- Do you have wifi?  If so, avoid 2.4G cameras or switch to 5.8G wifi.  (Protip: 99% of wireless cameras on sale are 2.4G)  You can also look for older 900mhz-1.2G cameras.&lt;br&gt;
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- Available wireless spectrum: regardless of the frequency range you choose, said range has a limited number of channels.  2.4G has 14 channels, but in practice you can only use about 4 (evenly spaced) before you start to run into overlap problems.  This makes &apos;5 or more&apos; wireless cameras a bit tricky.&lt;br&gt;
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- With the above 2 points in mind, start thinking about running wired cameras.&lt;br&gt;
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- If you do run wire for cameras, don&apos;t spend buttloads on RCA cable or install additional power outlets, buy cheap cat5 and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/products?q=video+power+balun&amp;btnG=Search&amp;hl=en&amp;show=dd&amp;scoring=p&quot;&gt;video/power baluns&lt;/a&gt; to utilize it.&lt;br&gt;
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- Multi-camera wireless receivers: most of the cheap ones will rotate between cameras.  This sucks.  If you&apos;re rotating between 4 cameras every 8 seconds or so, a thief has a 75% chance of missing any camera coverage if he can cross the FOV in 6 seconds or less.   Make sure you either have one dedicated receiver per camera or a multi-camera receiver that can process all of it&apos;s channel&apos;s in realtime.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.auto-guard.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=CCTV0002&quot;&gt;Example&lt;/a&gt; of a rotating receiver (X10 uses this), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.micon.com/wireless-cam-RC530A-802CWAS.shtml&quot;&gt;Example&lt;/a&gt; of a cheap-ass quad, realtime receiver (notice the multiple antennae).&lt;br&gt;
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- Video Processing and Storage: You mentioned you want to use a PC.  Maintaining a PC requires resources for care and feeding (OS updates, disk monitoring).  It&apos;s still a great solution, but think about an &lt;a href=&quot;http://http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/edsr600f-160.html&quot;&gt;IP DVR&lt;/a&gt; as a lower-hassle alternative.  If you really want to stick with a PC solution, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zoneminder.com/&quot;&gt;zoneminder&lt;/a&gt; for linux.&lt;br&gt;
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- Video storage redundancy:  Extended play VCRs, a few quad video processors and some RCA splitters make for a cheap, if low quality, backup solution.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 22:31:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>datacenter refugee</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Skorgu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/62071/wireless-security-system#934746</link>	
		<description>That last link should be &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/edsr600f-160.html&apos;&gt;IP DVR&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 10:43:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Skorgu</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: curiousleo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/62071/wireless-security-system#934777</link>	
		<description>lukwerks &apos;  Indoor Outdoor seems to be promising... &lt;br&gt;
what do you think?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 11:03:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>curiousleo</dc:creator>
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