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	<title>Comments on: Paying twice for the same thing...</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 04:26:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Paying twice for the same thing...</title>
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		<description>Private Health in the UK:  Is it worth it and how can I get the cost down? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I want to have some metalwork taken out of my leg, because it hurts a bit, but primarily because I want to join the army reserves, and having any metalwork in my leg prevents me from doing so.  I saw the specialist today and either I wait 6 months for the NHS to take it out for free or I pay &#163;2000...&lt;br&gt;
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Is there an easy way for me to get other quotes for the work or to bring the cost down?  Is health tourism worth considering?  Any suggestions appreciated...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 04:08:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/61794/Paying-twice-for-the-same-thing#930180</link>	
		<description>I bet you get a million USians telling you something weird.&lt;br&gt;
Anyway, you can make this decision yourself. Is a faster result worth the cash? Flying to Thailand or even some european countries for elective treatment won&apos;t reduce the cost that much (perhaps 1000 quid all up) versus a 6 month wait.&lt;br&gt;
When I lived in the UK I had BUPA, which I never made a claim on, I would have rathered the cash.&lt;br&gt;
Generally speaking, health cover isn&apos;t worth it for a one off treatment that would be covered under public insurance.&lt;br&gt;
I appreciate a 6 month delay might seem a lot, but hey, revel in the fact you have the option for free, after tax, public health care.&lt;br&gt;
In another country you could have no option and a 5000 bill.</description>
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		<title>By: essexjan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/61794/Paying-twice-for-the-same-thing#930184</link>	
		<description>I get free BUPA through my job.  For me it was totally worth it when I needed a big operation nearly 4 years ago.  If I&apos;d had it done on the NHS, I&apos;d have had to wait 2 years.  Under BUPA it was done within weeks, in a private hospital, by the same surgeon I&apos;d have seen on the NHS, and it turned out that there were some abnormalities that wouldn&apos;t have shown up on the usual tests and scans until it was at the point of being untreatable and terminal.  So, for me, private health care was a life saver, and by using BUPA, I freed up a bed in the NHS for someone else.&lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t think you&apos;ll get much of a lower quote if you shop around - for any surgery, most of the expense is in the anasthetic and aftercare.  The surgeon&apos;s bill for cutting out a bit of shrapnel isn&apos;t likely to vary much from doctor to doctor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 04:40:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cardamine</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/61794/Paying-twice-for-the-same-thing#930269</link>	
		<description>The NHS is great in emergencies but for stuff like this it&apos;s awful. Last year my brother had to pay for his own MRI scan to get *diagnosed* with a torn cruciate ligament, and either wait a year for an operation or go private again for a quick fix. He bit the bullet and it cost him &#163;4000. Apparently the fact that walking was agony still didnt make him an &quot;emergency case&quot;.&lt;br&gt;
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Anyhoo, if you can handle the pain and don&apos;t mind the wait, save the cash. On the other hand, maybe &#163;2000 isn&apos;t too much to spend to get fixed??</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 06:59:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: roofus</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/61794/Paying-twice-for-the-same-thing#930530</link>	
		<description>The surgeon&apos;s prices are pretty much fixed by the insurance company, but as a non-insured customer you can sometimes get a discount. The fees for the private hospital vary, and it would usually be cheapest to get the op done in the private wing of an NHS hospital. However &#163;2000 already sounds like a something of a bargain, it&apos;s hard to get even the most minor op involving a general anaesthetic for less than &#163;1000. You can shop around, but every time you go for an assessment with a new surgeon you&apos;ll get stung with a new consultation fee.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:22:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yellowcandy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/61794/Paying-twice-for-the-same-thing#931067</link>	
		<description>You might also look into seeing if you can get a surgeon in another part of the UK to do the operation, someplace where the wait will be shorter. A friend of mine did this a few years ago when she was waiting for a knee operation. She wound up seeing a doctor in Cornwall to have the work done there and waited 3 weeks as opposed to 8 months.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 01:35:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lanark</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/61794/Paying-twice-for-the-same-thing#931526</link>	
		<description>I paid almost double that for a similar operation in the UK, I think it was worth it.&lt;br&gt;
A few things to consider:&lt;br&gt;
- NHS waiting lists can be very variable, that 6 month wait could easily increase to a year or more.&lt;br&gt;
- Private hospitals are *much* cleaner&lt;br&gt;
- Will the delay cost you more than &#163;2K in lost earnings?&lt;br&gt;
- Will the delay make your condition worse?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 13:12:44 -0800</pubDate>
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