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	<title>Comments on: Any alternatives to Nike+ system?</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:24:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Any alternatives to Nike+ system?</title>
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		<description>Are there any alternatives to the Nike+ system to use for running? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;      I am looking for an alternative solution to the Nike+ system. I have a iPod but not an iPod nano. Optimally, I would like something that keeps track of miles ran, can be used with an iPod, and can be synched with a computer to keep track of my progress. &lt;br&gt;
     I am not sure if it is even feasible, but if there is something out there that can keep track of &lt;i&gt;where&lt;/i&gt; i ran would be awesome. Thanks for any help!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:20:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bigcheesegump</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: bigmusic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#914938</link>	
		<description>You probably wouldn&apos;t want to use your iPod since it uses a hard drive. All that jarring around might damage it. The nano is solid state so that&apos;s probably why they use it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:24:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bigmusic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chrisamiller</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#914945</link>	
		<description>a) what bigmusic said: &lt;br&gt;
hard drive + running = very bad things.&lt;br&gt;
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b) Here&apos;s what the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/present.php?p=Nike_iPod-Internals&quot;&gt;guts look like&lt;/a&gt;.  If you&apos;re the hacker/solderer/circuit-bender type, you could probably rig something up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:33:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisamiller</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mr. Gunn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#914964</link>	
		<description>There are GPS handheld&apos;s with built-in MP3 players there days, and they use flash memory, so no worry about shock.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:06:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Gunn</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bigcheesegump</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#914966</link>	
		<description>I had a brain fart about the running with the iPod thing. Basically, I really don&apos;t care about the music aspect of the system. I just want a system that can sync with my computer and give me data to track where I have been and other information.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:08:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bigcheesegump</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: special-k</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#914973</link>	
		<description>What bigmusic and chrisamiller said. Even if you don&apos;t listen to music, the hard drive still has to run to track your miles. So no, not a good idea.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:21:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pdf74</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#914980</link>	
		<description>I think both Suunto and Garmin make products that would fill your needs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:33:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jourman2</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#914981</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000CSQJ8C/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s a gps tracking system from garmin&lt;/a&gt; that&apos;s pretty highly rated.  The info is downloadable to a PC.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:33:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: epugachev</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#915004</link>	
		<description>I have the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000CSWCQA/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Forerunner 305&lt;/a&gt;, which is just like the 205 linked by jourman2 except with a heart rate monitor.  It does what you ask and I am quite happy with it.  If you have a Mac, though, I should warn you that the Mac version of the Garmin Training Center software, which you can use to download your runs to your computer, is pretty minimal.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/53699/Help-me-use-my-Garmin-GPS-device-with-my-Powerbook&quot;&gt;This thread&lt;/a&gt;, which predates the Mac release of GTC, discusses some other ways to view your data on your Mac, if this is an issue for you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:25:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: btkuhn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#915007</link>	
		<description>Yeah, a Garmin Forerunner is probably your best bet if you don&apos;t go with the Nike +. Look into the 201 or 301 for cheaper versions of the 205/305 that work almost as well - if you buy them used they can be found significantly cheaper.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:32:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: devilsbrigade</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#915040</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;There&apos;s no replacement for looking at a topo map &amp;amp; knowing the trails. For city stuff, MS Streets &amp;amp; Trips works well (&amp;amp; google maps can do the same, I&apos;m sure). Even in new places, its only taken me a week or two of steady running to learn the most common mileages I&apos;ll be dealing with. Logging roads &amp;amp; trails usually have signpoints and/or trail guides. And when it comes down to it, it doesn&apos;t really matter if you miss your 60 mile a week goal by a mile or two. My two (possibly undesired) cents. &lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:14:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarcieAlana</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#915204</link>	
		<description>I use a Suunto T4. With the foot pod or the GPS pod it can track distance run quite nicely, and with the pc pod, it will interface to my laptop to download data.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve been using the system for almost 5 months now and log about 20 miles a week with it. It works fabulously.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:30:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MarcieAlana</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: JamesToast</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#915235</link>	
		<description>This isn&apos;t a proper answer to the question, but the Nike+ iPod setup has been totally worth it to me.  That plus an audible.com account is all that keeps me running.  You can map your runs with Nike+, although I haven&apos;t yet bothered, and I think it&apos;s just clicking on the map to create and save a route (as opposed to the ipod magically knowing where you ran).  My recommendation would be to spring for the Nano, if that is feasible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:10:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>JamesToast</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: roger ackroyd</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#915782</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;bigcheesegump&lt;/b&gt;, I&apos;ve also been searching for such a device. (I have every other iPod in existence, so I don&apos;t need a Nano -- plus I don&apos;t really trust it to accurately measure distance.) In the meantime, using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/&quot;&gt;Gmaps Pedometer&lt;/a&gt; to figure out just how much distance I covered has been excellent motivation.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:21:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>roger ackroyd</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: soplerfo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#916561</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll second the use of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/&quot;&gt;Gmaps Pedometer&lt;/a&gt;. I use it along with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coolrunning.com/&quot;&gt;Cool Running&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s running log. you get a nice round-up of stats that way. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Admittedly though, the Nano&apos;s a lot slicker and I&apos;ll probably get one myself sometime in the not too distant future. I just can&apos;t see spending the money on the Garmin Forerunner, unfortunately.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:56:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DrtyBlvd</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60753/Any-alternatives-to-Nike-system#1095893</link>	
		<description>You need a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trackstick.com/trackstickII.htm&quot;&gt;trackstick&lt;/a&gt; people. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
No music, but Google earth compatible GPS tracking.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:20:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DrtyBlvd</dc:creator>
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