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	<title>Comments on: WTF, gel pen?</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:54:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: WTF, gel pen?</title>
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		<description>Gel pens: Help me learn to make them perform consistently. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I have a problem writing with gel pens (and fountain pens, I think) where they appear to be working just fine, but then a couple letters don&apos;t come out at all.  It frustrates the hell out of me, and I think it must be a problem with me, because I&apos;ve seen other people write just fine with them.  When a letter doesn&apos;t come out, I can retrace it over and over with nothing appearing on the page.  But if I move an inch away, the pen will resume producing ink just fine.  Then I can go back and that letter will come out normally (or, often, a little heavier than it should have come out).&lt;br&gt;
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How are you supposed to hold one?  When I hold a pen naturally, it&apos;s at about a 15 degree angle off of vertical.  Should it be more vertical, or more angled?  Am I pressing too hard?  Something else I haven&apos;t thought of?&lt;br&gt;
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I can write just fine with a ball-point pen or a pencil, it&apos;s just these &quot;nice&quot; pens that fail me.  The non-performing strokes occur once every 5 to 10 words.  Writing surface doesn&apos;t seem to matter, most recently it&apos;s a brand new, high quality notebook.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:43:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>knave</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: zamboni</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#907440</link>	
		<description>Are you left handed, perhaps? I&apos;ve always had the same problem with gel pens. (I was going to say, except for Uniball Jetstreams, but it turns out that they only &lt;b&gt;feel&lt;/b&gt; like gel pens.)</description>
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		<title>By: knave</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#907448</link>	
		<description>Nope, right handed!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:23:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: yesster</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#907487</link>	
		<description>Gel pens are very sensitive to oil on the paper.  If you use a lot of hand lotion, or have moist skin, you could be leaving a trace of oil that interferes with the gel pen working right.&lt;br&gt;
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The closer to vertical, the better.&lt;br&gt;
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Try a fresh gel pen on a fresh clean piece of paper, using an index card between your hand and the paper.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:35:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miagaille</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#907500</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;The closer to vertical, the better.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I know this is my problem with gel pens. They work best when held nearly perpendicular to the page, so that the gel ink can flow smoothly. I tend to hold my pens at a very low angle, so I gave up on gel pens.&lt;br&gt;
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Part of the reason it doesn&apos;t work even when you go over the same letter multiple times is that each time you&apos;re deepening the impression in the paper so that a) the pen can&apos;t grip as well and b) when you finally get the ink to flow, it fills in the impression leaving a darker mark.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:14:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>miagaille</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mcstayinskool</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#907572</link>	
		<description>I have exactly the same problem with gel pens. Maybe some kind soul will post a gel pen alternative that gives the same silky smooth feeling without aggravatingly deciding not to lay down ink every so often.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:48:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: slenderloris</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#907779</link>	
		<description>I had that problem with gel pens too. It was especially bad if I hadn&apos;t used the pen in a while and then tried to write with it.&lt;br&gt;
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I gave up and now use regular rolling ball pens like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pilotpen.us/products/rollingball/&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:03:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 6550</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#907935</link>	
		<description>I believe someone posted here once on using a Mont Blanc refill in a cheap standard pen shell.  I&apos;ve not tried it but I&apos;m intrigued since the only modification needed was slightly shortening the refill.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.instructables.com/id/EWAMSPFFCKEP2871N2/&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is the link.  It&apos;s a Mont Blanc refill in a Pilot G-2 shell.&lt;br&gt;
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I realize this isn&apos;t getting gels to work for you but it&apos;s a possibility for having a nice writing pen, at a price much less than a Mont Blanc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jayder</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#908096</link>	
		<description>The Wikipedia article on gel pens has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gel_pen#Disadvantages&quot;&gt;section devoted to their disadvantages&lt;/a&gt;.  Your problem, it seems, is a common one (I&apos;ve noticed it too).&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;m a big fan of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uniball.com/catalog/show/product.php?no=9&quot;&gt;Uni-Ball Micro&lt;/a&gt;.  They&apos;re not gel pens, and they don&apos;t come in any sexy colors, but I swear by those pens.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:19:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jknecht</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/60289/WTF-gel-pen#908479</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I believe someone posted here once on using a Mont Blanc refill in a cheap standard pen shell. I&apos;ve not tried it but I&apos;m intrigued since the only modification needed was slightly shortening the refill.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve tried this.  Worked like a charm... sort of.  To be honest, I think the G-2 writes better than the Mont Blanc--especially in the area of &apos;skipping&apos;.  At first I thought that maybe I had just gotten a bad refill, so I tried a refill pack from a different store.  Same result.  I wasn&apos;t about to drop another $12 on a third attempt!&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve never had a problem with a G-2 skipping.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:14:57 -0800</pubDate>
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