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	<title>Comments on: Can I expand upon my motherboard's limited internal pin connections?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:29:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Can I expand upon my motherboard&apos;s limited internal pin connections?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/58494/Can-I-expand-upon-my-motherboards-limited-internal-pin-connections</link>	
		<description>Does anyone make a PCI expansion card to add internal pin connectors for such things as USB1+/- and 1394? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I have an old ASUS P4T-E motherboard. I picked up one of these nifty &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.silverstonetek.com/products-fp34.htm&quot;&gt;Silverstone front card reader / combo devices&lt;/a&gt; while doing some other upgrades (new power supply, new video card). Unfortunately, my motherboard doesn&apos;t have pin connectors for most of the device&apos;s ponytail of cables. Yes, I know, &lt;i&gt;know thy mainboard&lt;/i&gt;. Anyway.&lt;br&gt;
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Having seen and used IDE expansion cards in the past, my immediate reaction was to look for a card that offered bare pin connectors of the sort I&apos;m looking for. But I can&apos;t seem to find anything that really resembles this, except for USB 2.0 cards that apparently have an internal connector (which is the one thing I don&apos;t necessarily need, though it would be nice to have the extra speed).&lt;br&gt;
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The cables I&apos;d most want to hook up have 4+1 pin plugs (with the pin plugs marked VCC, USB 1-, USB 1+, GND and then a separate plug marked Ground). There are also 9 pin 1394 plugs, but these aren&apos;t as important to me. Does anyone make an expansion card with these odd 4+1 pin connectors? Or will this device be largely reduced to serving the role of drive bay cover until I give up and purchase a new chipset and motherboard?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:15:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kowalski</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: PowerCat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/58494/Can-I-expand-upon-my-motherboards-limited-internal-pin-connections#879314</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve seen USB and FireWire PCI cards before, but I can&apos;t say for sure if they have those type of connectors on the board, but I know for sure they have USB and Firewire connectors in the back.&lt;br&gt;
At this point, it would probably be cheaper to shop for a new board!&lt;br&gt;
I like how you wrote headache in tags :P</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:29:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>PowerCat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: smallerdemon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/58494/Can-I-expand-upon-my-motherboards-limited-internal-pin-connections#879340</link>	
		<description>Hm.  I have a CompUSA firewire PCI card that has &quot;four&quot; Firewire ports, one of which is internal.  But just strictly open pins, no.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:28:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chairface</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/58494/Can-I-expand-upon-my-motherboards-limited-internal-pin-connections#879357</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve never seen one and I&apos;ve bought several USB/Firewire expansion cards before I finally gave up and built a new machine. They often have internal connectors but not a pin header like on the motherboard. I think you are out of luck.&lt;br&gt;
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You might be able to build your own with an old USB cable and some solder but it might be faster/easier to just upgrade the motherboard.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:07:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: weaponsgradecarp</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/58494/Can-I-expand-upon-my-motherboards-limited-internal-pin-connections#879467</link>	
		<description>It actually doesn&apos;t matter whether the &quot;internal&quot; port is a pin header or an actual port...you can find port-to header cables (or visa versa) on the web...&lt;br&gt;
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try www.monoprice.com</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:58:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: datacenter refugee</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/58494/Can-I-expand-upon-my-motherboards-limited-internal-pin-connections#879534</link>	
		<description>Compusa sells one &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&amp;Ntt=1394+card&amp;N=0&amp;Dx=mode+matchall&amp;Nty=1&amp;D=1394+card&amp;Ntk=All&amp;product_code=51960861&amp;Pn=3_Port_USB_2_0_and_3_Port_IEEE_1394b_FireWire_Slot_Saver_PCI_Express_Card&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
Manufacturer specs for it are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail.aspx?productid=PEX3U3F800&amp;c=US&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.startech.com/Data/ProductManuals/PEX3U3F800.pdf?c=US&quot;&gt;manual&lt;/a&gt; states that the internal header is &apos;optional&apos; so I would pop it out of the box and check before purchasing.&lt;br&gt;
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Seeing as it&apos;s ridiculously expensive, why not just pick up a card with an internal user-style (non-header) port, buy a $2 usb cable, slice it open and &lt;a href=&quot;http://allproducts.com/manufacture13/uta/15-wire_nut.jpg&quot;&gt;wire-nut&lt;/a&gt; it together?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:55:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>datacenter refugee</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: EiderDuck</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/58494/Can-I-expand-upon-my-motherboards-limited-internal-pin-connections#879856</link>	
		<description>Search on ebay for &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&amp;sbrftog=1&amp;catref=C6&amp;from=R10&amp;satitle=pci+usb+internal+header&amp;sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&amp;sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&amp;sadis=200&amp;fpos=07302&amp;ftrt=1&amp;ftrv=1&amp;saprclo=&amp;saprchi=&amp;fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&amp;coaction=compare&amp;copagenum=1&amp;coentrypage=search&quot;&gt;pci usb internal header&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:16:45 -0800</pubDate>
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