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  	<title>Question: Australian customs trouble</title>
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  	<description>Australian customs- does anyone have any experience bringing a wooden drum with an animal skin into Australia? I&apos;m in Kathmandu and want to buy two drums.  One is made of clay and in a bowl shape with skin stretched over the open end, the other is a wooden tube with skin over both ends.&lt;br&gt;
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I know I have to declare them, and can&apos;t see any evidence of bug holes in the wood, but I&apos;m worried that since you can&apos;t actually see inside the drum they wont let me bring it in.  &lt;br&gt;
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Has anyone been through this before?  Any advice?&lt;br&gt;
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Cheers.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:45:56 -0800</pubDate>
  	<dc:creator>twirlypen</dc:creator>
	
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  	<title>By: Jimbob</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#861720</link>	
  	<description>You will have problems if (a) the animal skin is from a rare / endangered animal. It probably isn&apos;t.  So, more imprtantly (b) if you bought them from a street vendor / not a &amp;quot;proper&amp;quot; shop.&lt;br&gt;
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And since you&apos;re coming from Kathmandu, the later may really cause problems.&lt;br&gt;
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Basically, if you bought these from, say, an established retail shop in a western country, and they are commercially produced, then customs would be okay, because they would know the skin and wood had been properly treated.&lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;re buying them from a market place in a third world country, they can pretty much assume that the products &lt;i&gt;aren&apos;t&lt;/i&gt; properly treated, may carry all sorts of diseases, and you may well have them taken away.&lt;br&gt;
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 I know this from my experience bringing back a wooden sculpture, and a possum skin from New Zealand; customs grilled me about where I had purchased them - as I got them both from a tourist / duty free shop, I was fine.  If I&apos;d got the possum skin anywhere else, they wouldn&apos;t have let me in.  The wood they weren&apos;t as concerned about, but they may be more concerned about wood given your departure location.</description>
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  	<title>By: dg</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#861725</link>	
  	<description>I have been asked about the origin of wooden objects I have brought in through customs and it seems, as long as the wood is smooth and free from any signs of infestation, it is OK.  I know that, if the item cannot be thoroughly inspected, they are unlikely to let it in (for example, anything made from coconuts with the shaggy bits still on doesn&apos;t stand a chance, because there could be bugs in it).  The fact that you can&apos;t see inside the drums may present a problem - if the skins are tied in place, maybe you can carefully untie them so they can be thoroughly inspected?  The same thing most likely applies to the animal skins - if they are well-cured and free from hair, you may be OK.&lt;br&gt;
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There is some information &lt;a href=&quot;http://customs.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=4443&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;  (and contact details at the bottom of the page to get more information) that makes it clear you must declare the items and I would definitely not recommend that you try and sneak through without declaring them, because the penalties can be very high.&lt;br&gt;
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My experience is that where you bought the items from is important - if you bought them at a duty-free store or other &amp;quot;reputable&amp;quot; location, there is some assumption that they will be of better quality than something bought in a street market and, therefore, of lower risk.  I brought some wooden sculptures back from Indonesia and, when I said that I had bought them at a large souvineer shop, they were only cursorily  inspected for evidence of insect infestation.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:24:42 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Brittanie</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#861768</link>	
  	<description>My friend moved from Korea to Oz with two Korean (hide-covered) drums. They were gamma ray-ed, which you can read about on &lt;a href=&quot;http://bemocked.livejournal.com/197954.html&quot;&gt;her blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:08:01 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: bink</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#861775</link>	
  	<description>I know a tour manager who said she had a problem getting a drummer&apos;s drums into Australia. They had to spray them or something and the drummer was really upset about it.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:41:12 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: PenDevil</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#861800</link>	
  	<description>My friend&apos;s brother was told by Ozzie customs to put his wooden African statues in the freezer for three months in order to kill an insects hiding out in the wood.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:37:27 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: Kangaroo</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#861805</link>	
  	<description>I brought wooden objects including a small drum into Australia from Papua New Guinea. The drum was carefully inspected but they seemed a lot more interested in the wood than in the skin part. The customs form asked about wood items but I don&apos;t recall any questions about animal skin. They let me keep all of it .. but they did carefully examine each piece. One of my colleagues forgot to declare a wooden item in his bag and they dug it out and scolded him for hiding it. He was allowed to keep that too.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:45:22 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: bunyip</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#862061</link>	
  	<description>In &apos;98 I brought in a tabla in from India - wooden drum, leather skin, bits of cork, etc. Like yours, they weren&apos;t able to see inside it. They didn&apos;t really ask any questions or think too hard about it and gave me two choices - dispose of it, or pay $50 to have it irradiated. I took the irradiation option - they did whatever they do and I received it in the post a few weeks later (postage was included in the price). I imagine that the fees have changed, but you could probably discover how much you can expect to pay with a call to AQIS.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daff.gov.au/corporate_docs/publications/pdf/quarantine/travel/yourgoods.pdf&quot;&gt;This AQIS document&lt;/a&gt; (PDF) seems to sum it up, and gives you a few contact numbers. &lt;br&gt;
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Just remember to declare the items! My experience is that the customs folk sometimes seem really concerned about wooden items, but other times their attitude is almost dismissive - they didn&apos;t even ask to see mine when I last came in and declared them.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:25:26 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: tim_in_oz</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#862160</link>	
  	<description>Seconding what Bunyip says: whatever you do, declare it. I&apos;m a lawyer and end up frequently defending people prosecuted by the Commonwealth for making false declarations. You honestly get into more trouble for dishonestly ticking a box marked &apos;no&apos; than you do for bringing the actual item in. I just came back through customs from Vietnam, declared everything and was basically told &apos;have a nice day&apos;. In the luggage were a number of unvarnished wooden items, coffee and pepper, but they had zero interest.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:03:45 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: gergtreble</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#862178</link>	
  	<description>I took a professional djembe skinned with vellum into australia  through Darvin airport. I declared it. They originaly said they were not going to let me through with it. But I asked for a second opinion, and they let me through. Although it did get sprayed by something that made the vellum brittle, i eventualy  had to get it replaced.&lt;br&gt;
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However friends of mine tried to take hide covered drums in through the same airport and had them confiscated. &lt;br&gt;
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This was in 2003 YMMV.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:22:04 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: gergtreble</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#862179</link>	
  	<description>DARWIN airport....&lt;br&gt;
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Sorry.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:22:25 -0800</pubDate>
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  	<title>By: singingfish</title>
  	<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/57306/Australian-customs-trouble#862487</link>	
  	<description>Done this before.  Essentially you have two options.  If the drum can be visually inspected thoroughly - on the inside and outside they will look at in customs and assuming that there are no signs of infection of the wood they will let it through.  If they can&apos;t see the inside of the drum (e.g. there is a skin on both ends or you can&apos;t see all the way up) they will require that it undergos gamma irradiation and you will have to hand it over to them and pay a fee.  They will then irradiate it (this is a safe process and results in no residual radiation) and post it to you.</description>
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  	<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:25:34 -0800</pubDate>
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