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Question: Remember Provo spelled backwards is Ovorp

solid-one-love — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:42:36 -0800

"Adanac" is "Canada" spelled backwards, and it's an exceedingly common name for businesses, streets and so forth in Canada. Is this common in any other country?

I'd also appreciate if anyone had any etyomolgical insights on this phenomenon. Did someone decide, way back, that this was clever and then it spread? Is it a coincidence, and the word has a different origin than merely being "Canada" spelled backwards?

By: bastionofsanity

bastionofsanity — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:54:58 -0800

I see a lot of Nacirema dumpsters.

By: ThinkNut

ThinkNut — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:59:37 -0800

I could see this as a way for businesses to get their names into the upper echelons of the phonebook / Yellow Pages due to the alphabetical advantages.

By: reeddavid

reeddavid — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:15:55 -0800

bastionofsanity beat me to the Nacirema dumpsters while I was locating my snapshot of one of them.

In Seattle's Ballard neighborhood we have the Majestic Bay Theater, owned by Elttaes Theaters LLC.

By: Dee Xtrovert

Dee Xtrovert — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:26:00 -0800

I see a lot of Gászsroraygam stuff in Hungary. Just joking. But I have seen a company in Japan with "Napaj" and a restaurant in India with "Aidni," which is odd since neither of those countries uses our alphabet as the primary vehicle for expression. Most countries don't have names which lend themselves to this sort of backwards expression, though some cities do. But watch out, Tulsa!

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:29:09 -0800

Negatively, there no business like that here in New Zealand (surprise!). More interestingly, Ailartsua is fairly pronounceable, but I could only find one business (and it was called Lartsua).

There are quite a few variants on Enz-* in local business names, however.

By: PercussivePaul

PercussivePaul — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:42:53 -0800

I think Canada is blessed to have a name that really rolls off the tongue when read backwards. Nacirema? Four syllables? Please. Adanac? East Vancouverites have it down to an art - "Adn-ack". Rhymes with Aflac.

By: de

de — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:52:30 -0800

i think 'adanac' is an example of verlan, a french language practice... slang.

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:55:22 -0800

Not really, because verlan like Pig Latin reverses syllables, not spelling. It's much more like srehctub klat.

By: de

de — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:05:21 -0800

i still think 'adanac' is the verlan of 'canada'. in the simplest cases it is a mere word reversal and there are no hard and fast rules... but not to lose any sleep.

By: quadrinary

quadrinary — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 00:11:57 -0800

in Nebraska, there's a bank group called "Aksarben"

not a "country", but still a large geographical area!

By: muddylemon

muddylemon — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:13:50 -0800

there's a record company in kansas called sasnak, a road in Florida called adirolf. There's a horse racing place in Nebraska called Aksarben, and another called atokad. About a billion things called Anozira.

(and a myspace profile for every backwards state in the country)

By: antifuse

antifuse — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 02:50:22 -0800

What's hilarious is that I never heard of a company or anything called Adanac. At least not in Toronto.

By: The Michael The

The Michael The — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:29:43 -0800

Not a place, but Oprah's production company is named "Harpo." Also, the evil doll in Bret Easton Ellis' book "Lunar Park" is called the Terby, which is "(Wh)Y Bret"? backwards.

By: Xurando

Xurando — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:56:27 -0800

Retlifatem

By: unknowncommand

unknowncommand — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:27:30 -0800

Houston has a seedy downtown coffee shop called, "Notsuoh". That was also the name of a city parade from the early 1900's.

By: ferociouskitty

ferociouskitty — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 06:42:17 -0800

In Parma, OH (a suburb of Cleveland), there is an Amrap Dr., and also an Amrap Cafe. (Interestingly, Amrap Dr. is parallel to Layor Dr, which is 2 streets away from Royal Pkwy.)

By: CCK

CCK — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:34:49 -0800

Horse racing facility in Omaha called Aksarben.

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:38:48 -0800

Aksarben has been closed for years, but, yes. There is a Mardi Gras krewe-style secret society of wealthy gentlemen that is still around that calls itself the Knights of the Ak-sar-ben.

By: Wolfdog

Wolfdog — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:41:14 -0800

You might be amused be this little article about Pekin/Nikep.

By: pithy comment

pithy comment — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:49:31 -0800

Slightly related: there is a Tunlaw Road in Washington, DC which used to be Walnut Road. When the British were invading in 1812 many DC street names were reversed to confuse the invaders but still be recognizable to the locals; this one stuck.

By: The Michael The

The Michael The — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:53:00 -0800

Oh, how could I forget! The fabled Nacirema people from anthropological literature!

By: pjern

pjern — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:01:09 -0800

Interesting note on the Nebraska/Aksarben business.... I personally first heard about it in my railfan days because the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad's Nebraska Zephyr was renamed the Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr on the return trip, printed on the timetable as such, as well. This was from perhaps the 1940's, and was the earliest I had heard of it.

By: Totally Zanzibarin' Ya

Totally Zanzibarin' Ya — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:43:29 -0800

The Calgary Flames have a farm team called the Omaha Ak Sar Ben knights.

By: wreckingball

wreckingball — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 08:44:34 -0800

unrelated to place names, but i went to high school with several girls whose names were inversions of their mothers' names: i specifically remember airam/maria and aleida/adiela, but i think there may have been others.

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:25:07 -0800

What's hilarious is that I never heard of a company or anything called Adanac. At least not in Toronto.

Don't get out much?

By: scody

scody — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:27:10 -0800

Erewhon. Besides the book, it's also a natural foods store in L.A. and a mountain outfitters (who actually spell it Erehwon).

By: Razzle Bathbone

Razzle Bathbone — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:37:41 -0800

My father-in-law has a wooden crate that was made for transporting bottles of Adanac Dry, which was supposedly a sly name a local rum-runner used for his particular tipple.

By: scodger

scodger — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:23:47 -0800

Cazna is a semi common name for gardens and parks, and unfortunate people born on ANZAC day.

By: oflinkey

oflinkey — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:03:30 -0800

Not a place, but there is a hotel in the catskills called the Nevele. I believe the founder had 11 children, or perhaps grandchildren. Somehting like that.

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:57:00 -0800

I'm pretty sure that de has it. Because of Canada's French heritage, the backwards-slang of verlan would make the most sense, and help to indicate why it's so rare for other countries to use the reverse of their country name as a placename. There are a boatload of Adanac placenames in Quebec, even moreso than elsewhere in Canada.

By: RavinDave

RavinDave — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:59:20 -0800

Curiously, just like they used to race horses at AKSARBEN here in "Nebraska" ... they also race at "ATOKAD" in Sioux City. I'm sure there's a reason they reversed "Dakota", but I have no clue. Probably sounded better that AWOI or SASNAK.

By: klangklangston

klangklangston — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:22:23 -0800

"I'm pretty sure that de has it. Because of Canada's French heritage, the backwards-slang of verlan would make the most sense, and help to indicate why it's so rare for other countries to use the reverse of their country name as a placename. There are a boatload of Adanac placenames in Quebec, even moreso than elsewhere in Canada."

Except that verlan is relatively recent, and there's no real evidence to imply that the slang would be transmitted from France to Canada like that. Or, I think you're coining a charming folk etymology on your own there.

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:30:57 -0800

Except that verlan is relatively recent

Gained in popularity recently, but as a form of wordplay, dates back to the mid-18th-century.

and there's no real evidence to imply that the slang would be transmitted from France to Canada like that

Yes, it's the one thing that never made it across from France. Right.

Grind your axe somewhere else, please.

By: magikker

magikker — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:10:36 -0800

I feel like this ought to be a list on Wikipedia

By: Deep Dish

Deep Dish — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:19:38 -0800

Life long Saskatchewan resident here, can't think of any Adanac instiutions but it does sound nice.

By: BluGnu

BluGnu — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:12:13 -0800

In Corpus Christi there is a Saxet shopping center. Also, I've heard of three baby girls named "Neveah" recently.

By: hexatron

hexatron — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:31:44 -0800

googley maps says my search for yesrej did not match any locations. I am sorely disappointerated.

and yesrej.com seems to be available. dis state got no edirp!

By: winston

winston — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:11:49 -0800

Don't get out much?

Which of those companies are you saying he should have heard of before? They're not exactly high profile.

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:33:56 -0800

High profile? No, but common enough that I would expect anyone who goes about a normal routine to see a sign or awning at least once in his or her travels in his or her lifetime. 2700-block Dufferin isn't exactly the boondocks. Hell, I've been down that stretch and I've been to T.O. twice.

By: antifuse

antifuse — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:31:42 -0800

I've probably been up and down that stretch of Dufferin 30 times, and I've never seen Adanac Glass. But then, if it's one of those shops in the shitty strip malls along there, I'm not overly surprised. As for the rest of them, other than the one on Sheppard (and to be honest with you, I don't think I've ever been down that stretch of Sheppard... Why would I, with the 401 right there?), they're all tucked away into little never-heard-of-them before streets. So it's hardly the kind of thing that would lead one to say "Hey, what's up with all these Toronto businesses named Adanac?". I'm not saying it's not the case elsewhere, but at least in Toronto it's pretty easy to miss the phenomenon.

By: flipper

flipper — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:04:04 -0800

I don't recognize any of the Toronto-based Adanac companies either, but I have to admit the fact that one of them is a mirror and glass company makes me happy.

By: Goofyy

Goofyy — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:19:19 -0800

Wanigas, Federal Credit Union.
In Saginaw, Michigan (of course)

Surprisingly, Wanicam doesn't appear on Google.

While searching for Neprewtna (Antwerpen), I get Google hits where the title and text are backwards. Oddly, the site is .de not .be

By: kindall

kindall — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:00:13 -0800

Surprisingly, Wanicam doesn't appear on Google.

That's probably because Macinaw is usually spelled "Mackinac" (although sometimes "Mackinaw"). The pesky "ck" doesn't really lend itself to subtle gnitirw drawkcab.