Comments on: I don't wanna sleep under the sakura!

Question: I don't wanna sleep under the sakura!

teststrip — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:17:54 -0800

I was off to Kyoto by myself to see the cherry blossoms, till a friend decided to come too. Now I've cancelled my single room accommodation and because of the mere weeks to go, we can't get a booking... I need help - google fails me! So..... a) is there anywhere else in Japan that would be good for a 2-3 day visit at that time of year (the first week of April) where we'd be able to find somewhere to stay. We've got railpasses. The rest of the time we will be in Tokyo... but we'd love to get out of the city and see some traditional beauty that Kyoto would offer.

or b) Do you know some magical way we could find a twin room to stay in Kyoto without paying 700 pounds a night?

Dōmo arigatō!

By: acoutu

acoutu — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:42:34 -0800

Here's a list of Japanese cherry blossom festivals. I have been to Hirosaki. It's several hours north of Tokyo, but it has a very traditional small town feel and it's gorgeous.

By: GaelFC

GaelFC — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:44:43 -0800

700 pounds? If you search under hotels on Expedia.com, the rooms that come up (for random dates in April) are less than $200 US per night. The place where you had the single room can't loan you a rollaway bed?

We were there last June (not cherry blossom season) and stayed at the New Miyako, right by the train station. A friend stayed in a hostel.

And if you want traditional Japanese accommodation, the people at JapaneseGuestHouses.com are awesome. You communicate with them in English via email.

By: horseblind

horseblind — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:46:39 -0800

When I was in Kyoto I stayed at the Nashinoki inn. They were able to accommodate me on very short notice (mere hours). It was my favorite place I stayed in all of Japan.

By: benign

benign — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:50:03 -0800

This place is 5500 yen (~45 USD!) per night for a twin room. A googling "kyoto guest house" turns up a lot of appealing results.

By: mr_roboto

mr_roboto — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:56:20 -0800

Here's another vote for JapaneseGuestHouses.com. I found a ryokan in Kyoto for cheap there, at less than a month's notice. I think it might have been this place.

By: xammerboy

xammerboy — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:59:48 -0800

I often find great deals when travelling on Craig's List.

By: teststrip

teststrip — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:19:45 -0800

You guys are awesome! Thanks heaps those leads have been very useful and given me hope!

By: JMOZ

JMOZ — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:35:14 -0800

My wife and I are actually in almost exactly the same position. Does anyone have any knowledge as to which (if any) of these places are clean and/or comfortable? We're actually willing to pay a bit more if necessary, but we'd like to be under $150/night or so.

By: misozaki

misozaki — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:40:59 -0800

See here. A different time of year, but it should be helpful.

BTW, Japan is experiencing an unusually warm winter in general, so the cherry blossoms may bloom earlier than the "average" time in the guide books. (Yesterday was the first time in the history of Japanese weather observation that the "haru-ichiban" (the spring's first strong south wind) blew before any snow fell in Tokyo.) So you might want to keep that in mind when you schedule things.

Have fun in Japan!

By: missmerrymack

missmerrymack — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:03:08 -0800

If the hotels in Kyoto are booked it would be really easy to stay in either Osaka or Kobe and take the train in to Kyoto each day. That might help you find more open accommodations. You would also likely have better luck if you would be willing to share a double rather than twin room.

By: drstein

drstein — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:04:17 -0800

If you don't mind an .. uh.. unusual room.. then you might be just find with one of the "love hotel" rooms. When I lived in Japan, they ran me about Y5000 for a night. Either Y3000 for an hour, or Y5000 for a night.

You probably won't find too many on the internet, but as a last resort they're not bad. All the ones I used when bouncing around Japan were nice and clean.

By: zardoz

zardoz — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:42:56 -0800

Are you (or your friend) male? If so, you can check out a capsule hotel. Kind of an oversized coffin, it's fine if you're just going to sleep. And honestly, given the size of your average Japanese hotel room, it ain't all that much smaller! But if you're female, sorry. Men only.

Kyoto's actually a fairly small city, so I don't know where you could find one, but as it was pointed out earlier, Osaka is only about 45 minutes away by train, and much bigger.

If you're truly in dire straits, find a 24 internet/manga cafe, which should be all over the place, at least in Osaka. You get your own little booth and a kind of oversized Lazy-Boy, and you can stay overnight and crash no problem. Dunno if they'd say anything about the luggage, though (probably not).

By: Mil

Mil — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 04:21:04 -0800

Having a quick look on Jalan which is pretty much the hotel booking super-site in Japan, still shows a lot of availability in hotels on the outskirts of Kyoto in that time-frame. The site's all in Japanese, but if you dropped me a line I could walk you through it. You could get a nice business hotel that was fairly central with breakfast for less than 25quid pp a night.

By: dead_

dead_ — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:53:58 -0800

I had excellent luck with this place, just outside the main station. It's a hostel but should have some availability. Good luck!!

By: jsonic

jsonic — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:42:55 -0800

Some other tips for visiting Kyoto:

1. Bicycles. Most hotels will have bicycles (those single gear types you see everywhere in Japan) that you can barrow or rent. Kyoto is filled with so many Temples and Shrines that walking between them gets very tiring. Bicycles greatly multiply the area you'll be able to experience.

2. Johnny Hillwalker. He's a Japanese resident of Kyoto who speaks english and will guide you through central Kyoto. You'll see numerous temples/shrines, tour a Japanese fan making shop, graveyards, sweet shops, pottery shops, the original Nintendo headquarters, and much more. The tour ends near the bottom of a long steep shopping street that climbs toward Kiyomizu, a hill-side temple that has breath-taking views of the city.

By: jsonic

jsonic — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:20:57 -0800

BTW, Johnny Hillwalker has a list of Kyoto accomodations on his link page.

By: elricky

elricky — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 05:42:44 -0800

This B&B next to Shinnyo-do temple on Yoshida-yama is well-located and very reasonably priced. The host is a gracious longtime Kyoto resident originally from France who speaks English. (Disclosure: I made the website)

Another B&B nearby is also hosted by a nice guy who's very knowledgeable about Kyoto and local tours.

Both places are modest, clean and charming, built in traditional style and located in quiet areas with good walking. If they're booked, I'm sure they'll have suggestions for other places you could try.

Kyoto's streets can get very crowded in the spring. Jsonic's suggestion to ride bicycles is an excellent one.
Also, I suggest a trip to Kurama, is a quiet mountain village a 20-minute train ride away with a nice hot spring with outdoor baths. Really refreshing!

By: misozaki

misozaki — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:37:45 -0800

Just in case anybody's going to use this thread as reference, the "Cherry Blossom Forecast" (Sakura Kaika Yoso) has been announced today, and it turns out I was right, the cherry blossoms will bloom earlier than usual. The forecast for Osaka (near Kyoto) is March 25; Tokyo, March 18 (yes, it's further up north but earlier); and further up north in Niigata is April 3. This means that the best time to visit these places if you want to see the blossoms in full bloom is about a week after these dates. Of course, since these are just guesses based on data & statistics, the dates may change. But just FYI.