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	<title>Comments on: How do I deepen my voice without smoking?</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:28:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: How do I deepen my voice without smoking?</title>
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		<description>One of the few benefits of smoking for men is it deepens the voice.  I&apos;ve quit smoking and don&apos;t want to start back up, but is there anything else that has that effect - a drink maybe, without that whole dying a slow death from cancer bit?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:22:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: parmanparman</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837639</link>	
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I am a professional broadcaster who relies on his smooth, deep voice.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I am also a smoker who has tried everything and everything else short of suicide to give up smoking and desperately want to stop.&lt;br&gt;
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If you want a deep, gravelly voice, drink water, talk from your abdomen, eat foods that build up mucus in your throat like milk or chocolate. &lt;br&gt;
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I stay away from milk and chocolate on days that I record, but I can&apos;t stay away from cigarettes and it is so bad and I hate it. So please, don&apos;t go back to smoking just because you think you sound better. I would give anything to be smoke free and I rely on my voice for a living.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:28:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: koeselitz</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837641</link>	
		<description>For what it&apos;s worth, as a sometime singer who&apos;s had some training, smoking doesn&apos;t do a damn thing to &lt;em&gt;deepen&lt;/em&gt; your voice. It gives your voice something of a gravelly texture, but &lt;em&gt;deepening&lt;/em&gt; has to do with where the breath is coming from. You can change this without smoking; parmanparman&apos;s advice is very good: speak from your abdomen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:31:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JayRwv</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837643</link>	
		<description>The voice you have after you quit smoking is more your natural voice. Smoking damages the larynx and esophogus and thus the voice is more raspy and deeper sounding. I think you should just accept your voice. Perhaps practicing with lower sound would help to some degree.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:32:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rolypolyman</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837672</link>	
		<description>I did television work awhile back.  Relaxing does help.  I notice when I&apos;m stressed or tense, it affects the diaphragm somehow and a lot of the deeper tones are diminished... I think it makes you prone to speak from the upper chest rather than with your whole torso.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:53:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fletchmuy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837681</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m NOT suggesting this, but Tom Waits used to scream into a pillow in an effort to make his voice more raspy.  He also drank whisky and smoked, so I&apos;m not sure which of these methods worked for him. Probably all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:02:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goethean</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837685</link>	
		<description>Relax. Talk slowly and confidently.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:05:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Black Spring</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837688</link>	
		<description>Screaming; harsh, throaty screaming, even for 20 seconds; lowers my voice dramatically for the entire next day. Find a meadow or abandoned mineshaft. Taking any more than one drink, particularly of spirits, has the same effect.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:08:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nebulawindphone</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837692</link>	
		<description>You can get a certain gravely tone by using what linguists call &quot;creaky voice&quot; and voice coaches call &quot;glottal fry.&quot;  Googling either term will give you information.  &lt;br&gt;
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(For what it&apos;s worth, this is also the technique that some metal singers use to get that &quot;cookie monster&quot; growl.  You wouldn&apos;t want to push it that far, but a little creak in your voice will give it a sort of well-worn sound and the illusion of lower pitch.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:12:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JeremiahBritt</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837694</link>	
		<description>Age will help a little. Relaxing and doing theatre exercises will help too. &lt;br&gt;
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Most men&apos;s lowest registers are much below their normal speaking voice, however.&lt;br&gt;
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Other than Sulphur Hexafluoride there isn&apos;t much that will actually lower your voice, although throat infections and smoking will make it more grizzled.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:14:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: box</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837695</link>	
		<description>I read in one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joeeszterhas.com/&quot;&gt;Joe Eszterhas&lt;/a&gt;&apos; books that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esquire.com/features/learned/030201_mwi_evans.html?par=msn_h%7Cesq%7Cemb%7C&quot;&gt;Robert Evans&lt;/a&gt; attributed his smooth, deep baritone voice to humming.  Humming a lot.  &lt;br&gt;
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It might be worth mentioning that Evans has also been known to (makes &apos;puff-puff&apos; gesture) and (makes drinky-drinky gesture), and it&apos;s certainly worth reiterating that we&apos;re talking about &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Eszterhas&quot;&gt;Joe Eszterhas&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Evans_(film_producer)&quot;&gt;Robert Evans&lt;/a&gt; here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:14:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ob</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837704</link>	
		<description>I quit a couple of years ago and my voice is a little higher (or least that&apos;s how it seems to me) than it was. One exercise that you could do is to croak (not sing) a very low pitch for a moment or two and then to speak.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:18:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JeremiahBritt</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837709</link>	
		<description>aren&apos;t much below. Sorry.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:21:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drezdn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837716</link>	
		<description>My understanding (or as my Speech Pathologizing wife tells) it&apos;s not really that possible for men to lower their voices much.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:30:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aidan Kehoe</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837755</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve never smoked, but whether it&apos;s deepening in the sense of singing or not, I know a (neat) whiskey hangover makes me sound a hell of a lot more &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; that is more characteristic of middle-aged men than teenagers. My one actual regret from my schooling is that I didn&apos;t go in to my University French oral final exam with just such a hangover, because it makes my French a hell of a lot more &lt;i&gt;&amp;lt;gravelly voice&amp;gt;sergegainsbourg&amp;lt;/gravelly voice&amp;gt;&lt;/i&gt; and impressive.&lt;br&gt;
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Maybe with some experimentation you could pick the number of drinks in an evening that gives you that voice without, y&apos;know, the actual negatives of a hangover.  And then, hey, you have a less specious reason than the rest of us for drinking whiskey every evening!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:06:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ikkyu2</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837765</link>	
		<description>I think it&apos;s the muscle-relaxant effect of a large amount of alcohol that deepens the voice as Aidan Kehoe notes.  I have noticed the same effect myself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:12:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gucky</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837780</link>	
		<description>Shooters of vodka kept in the freezer gives me a temporary sultry/graveliness that my voice doesn&apos;t typically have. I think that&apos;s &apos;cause I&apos;ve just frozen my freakin&apos; vocal cords though, so I certainly can&apos;t recommend it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:24:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: i_am_joe&apos;s_spleen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837818</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigroids&quot;&gt;Nigroids&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:46:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Iron Rat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837920</link>	
		<description>I have heard that waiting until you have a cold and then going to the top of a mountain and shouting as loud as you can will give a permanent deepening change. I would seek wiser counsel before doing it though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:06:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: teleskiving</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#837939</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Screaming; harsh, throaty screaming, even for 20 seconds; lowers my voice dramatically for the entire next day.&lt;br&gt;
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There is a popular story that Richard Burton used to do this, shouting himself hoarse in the Welsh hills, but I couldn&apos;t find a good reference.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:28:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: christinetheslp</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#838001</link>	
		<description>I think you need to be clearer about what you mean by &quot;deepening.&quot;  If you want to lower your pitch, sorry, you&apos;re out of luck.  That would mean increasing the mass of your vocal cords somehow, and you can&apos;t really do that.&lt;br&gt;
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Harsh screaming will lower your pitch, but that&apos;s because your vocal cords get abused and swollen.  It&apos;s not too good for them.&lt;br&gt;
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Maybe you can play with the pacing or intonation of your speech to get a different effect.  Like, if you thought the deeper voice made you sound more sophisticated or like a character, there are other ways to give that impression without abusing your poor vocal cords.&lt;br&gt;
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Good luck!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:42:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the_bone</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#838072</link>	
		<description>I answered a similar question &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/27085#426465&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  (I&apos;m a voice teacher, by the way.)  You can use a more &quot;chest voice&quot; type of sound to appoximate that &quot;deep&quot; quality you&apos;re looking for... but the above commenters are correct:  unless you actually increase the thickness of the vocal folds (which can&apos;t really be done), you&apos;re largely stuck with the vocal quality you have.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:26:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fourcheesemac</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#838110</link>	
		<description>Smoke pot instead.  No proven risk of cancer, and you can rough your voice up just fine with it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:13:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ripple</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#838140</link>	
		<description>Frank Zappa&apos;s voice dropped by a third after he crushed his larynx by falling backwards into an orchestra pit during a show.  Not that I&apos;d recommend attempting to recreate this in pursuit of a lower voice.  As far as I can tell, my quitting smoking about two months ago has had little to no effect on my voice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:57:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: La Cieca</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#838269</link>	
		<description>I believe it is possible to lower your modal pitch through study and practice.  The technique is basically the same a singer uses to produce a rich and consistent lower register; after that it&apos;s a matter of constant practice until you have made the lower pitch a habit.&lt;br&gt;
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There was a documentary about cross-dressers I saw last year that included scenes of a speech coach who taught men how to feminize their speech.  The process entailed more than  adjustment of modal pitch.  She also taught inflection, i.e. the melodic shape of a sentence.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:23:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sleeplessunderwater</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#838297</link>	
		<description>I read something somewhere about what to do if you have an unpleasant voice and you think people react negatively to you because of it.  You get a friend with a nicer voice to record sentences of them saying stuff, then you listen to the recordings (a sentence or two at a time) and talk along with them, over and over.  It&apos;s important that you don&apos;t &lt;em&gt;read&lt;/em&gt; along, but go from memory, since that doesn&apos;t work.&lt;br&gt;
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Apparently, your brain will try to match what you sound like to what you&apos;re hearing, and if you keep at it long enough you&apos;ll eventually sound a &lt;em&gt;lot&lt;/em&gt; like the person on the recordings, but there&apos;s a happy medium where you just sound more pleasant/whatever.&lt;br&gt;
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So, this should work for making your voice deeper, too.  You wouldn&apos;t even have to get someone to record themselves; you could just pick a movie/radio broadcast where a deep-voiced person does a lot of talking.&lt;br&gt;
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I haven&apos;t tried this, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:44:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BrotherCaine</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/55655/How-do-I-deepen-my-voice-without-smoking#984087</link>	
		<description>I heard heroin will do the trick, and kills most people even more slowly than cigarettes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:46:24 -0800</pubDate>
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