Comments on: How do I avoid buying stocks in companies that fund terrorism?

Question: How do I avoid buying stocks in companies that fund terrorism?

spiderskull — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:26:16 -0800

How do I know if a company I want to buy stocks in funds terrorist groups?

It's a construction company operating out of the United Emirates, and I realize there are many businesses that do not in anyway fund terrorist activities -- but, many of them do. Considering how many of the terror benefactor businesses happen to be construction companies, I'm a bit paranoid.

I realize this will make a trivial, if any, financial impact, but it's for the sake of my conscience.

By: TheRaven

TheRaven — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:39:56 -0800

"many of them do".

Your evidence for this? (The rantings of George W Bush do not constitute evidence.)

By: Blazecock Pileon

Blazecock Pileon — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:52:07 -0800

Avoid energy stocks.

By: XMLicious

XMLicious — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:03:29 -0800

Any individuals or organizations seriously claiming to have the answer to this question are probably terrorists themselves, either Al-Quaeda-type ones or CIA-type ones.

By: spiderskull

spiderskull — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:30:31 -0800

TheRaven -- the net funding comes from a variety of businesses, and I'm using second-hand sources from a few books I've read. Maybe "many" is describing too many, but more than a trivial number of businesses in the middle east fund extremist groups because they align with their personal beliefs. My sources may or may not be accurate, but that's out of the scope of this question anyway.

XMLicious -- you're probably right, but I'm wondering if there's some list of businesses I should obviously not invest in (meaning, they can directly and unambiguously be tied to known extremists).

By: b1tr0t

b1tr0t — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:06:32 -0800

Your bigger issue when investing in overseas shares is simple fraud and transparency. International investors love US stocks because we are relatively open to foreign sources of capital and our securities are relatively well defined. In the middle east, political instability should also be a major factor in your financial modeling.

Before you start investing in a foreign market, you should develop enough local knowledge to determine whether that is even a good idea. By the time you know the answer to that question, you should be able to find out who supports terror.

By: RichardP

RichardP — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:17:24 -0800

The list you desire is unlikely to exist in exactly the form you want. You might consider using the U.S. Treasury Specially Designated Nationals List as a crude proxy for a list of organizations and individuals who can directly and unambiguously be tied to known extremists. The official SDN list can be found on the U.S. Treasury web site. It is maintained by U.S. Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) and is supposed to include individuals and organizations who are proscribed by official U.S. foreign sanctions, including terrorists, narcotics traffickers, and those engaged in activities related to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

However, as the Wikipedia page at my first link mentions, the list is somewhat controversial and doesn't exactly match your requirements. You probably should only consider it a starting point for your research if you seriously want to limit your investments in the manner you describe.

By: ikkyu2

ikkyu2 — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:01:12 -0800

I realize you are asking about terrorism, but since you appear to be an ethical person, there are other issues you might also wish to be aware of. From the CIA World Factbook entry for the UAE:

men from South Asia come to the UAE to work in the construction industry, but may be subjected to conditions of involuntary servitude as they are coerced to pay off recruitment and travel costs, sometimes having their wages denied for months at a time

The entry also mentions the traffic in sex slaves.

The UAE has forestalled every effort to reduce human traffic into their area, resulting in their being placed on the Tier 2 Watch List.

Investing in companies that use slaves, because it looks like they can make a good profit, is tantamount to using your money to directly support and encourage human slavery. That's probably worth at least a second thought.

By: crabintheocean

crabintheocean — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 13:41:33 -0800

it's not really 'tantamount'. if you profit by owning a part of a company known to use slaves, you are a slaveowner.