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	<title>Comments on: What books would be good for learning English?</title>
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		<title>Question: What books would be good for learning English?</title>
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		<description>What recreational reading books would you recommend for a Spanish-speaking adult to work on her English? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; One day a week at my job I work with a woman from Mexico.  She&apos;s a really wonderful woman, and she&apos;s trying to learn enough English to be a teacher (long process, I know).  She can practice her spoken English with the people she works with, and on the days we work together we work on her writing as well.  I&apos;d really like her to work on her reading skills too, and that&apos;s where you come in.&lt;br&gt;
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This woman is probably reading English at a late elementary-early middle school level, and I&apos;d love to get her some books that are written at that level but would be of interest to adults.  The first Harry Potter book would be great if it weren&apos;t for the British slang and the nonsense magical words - I&apos;m afraid they might confuse her.  &lt;br&gt;
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I also plan on getting her some magazines and newspapers, but I know she&apos;s appreciate some actual books.  Any suggestions would be great.  Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Pollomacho</title>
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		<description>Tolkien and Narnia books?&lt;br&gt;
John Grisham/Michael Crichton/Stephen King/etc. bestseller type stuff?</description>
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		<title>By: muddgirl</title>
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		<description>I think the typical answer is &quot;Romance Novels,&quot; but that&apos;s gonna depend on her personal interest.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:16:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Confessor</title>
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		<description>Simply talking will teach her conversational English. For the rest, I would second Pollomacho&apos;s recommendation of epic fantasy literature, of which Tolkien would be the most obvious. Narnia &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; actually be a bit too simple depending on her current progress; I&apos;d consider it fourth-grade reading at best.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ll throw in a vote for Susan Cooper&apos;s &lt;em&gt;The Dark is Rising&lt;/em&gt; sequence; it&apos;s more mature in theme and literary presentation than the Narnia books and might be better appreciated.&lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;re looking for good American fiction (rather than fantasy) geared toward a middle school reading level, I&apos;d suggest Mildred Taylor&apos;s tales of racial disharmony in the American South or some of the first few books in Cynthia Voigt&apos;s Tillerman cycle.&lt;br&gt;
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I found George Orwell&apos;s &lt;em&gt;1984&lt;/em&gt; a challenging yet engrossing read in elementary school.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:25:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: frogan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808401</link>	
		<description>Read a newspaper. Or a mainstream magazine like Time, Newsweek, Sports Illustrated, etc. Common, everyday language that&apos;s topical, relevant and written right for the mainstream strike zone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:32:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jesourie</title>
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		<description>As an English speaker learning Spanish, I found the Spanish translation of Antoine de Saint-Exupery&apos;s &lt;u&gt;The Little Prince&lt;/u&gt; to be just about right. Maybe the English version would be good for your friend?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:39:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Doohickie</title>
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		<description>If she&apos;s looking at longer books, I can&apos;t really say, but Reader&apos;s Digest has a pretty good variety of fiction, non-fiction, humor and vocabulary building.  I&apos;m not always crazy of the idealized right wing Americana slant, but I think it might be good for her if she&apos;s looking at shorter articles and stories.&lt;br&gt;
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You can get her a gift subscription, or find older issues at garage sales and thrift stores, often by the box.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:48:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: markovitch</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808416</link>	
		<description>hemingway--complex ideas using small words.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:53:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meatbomb</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808427</link>	
		<description>on the same line as markovitch: vonnegut--short sentences, simple words, big ideas.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:03:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mdonley</title>
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		<description>Newspapers are great, as are magazines - what are her interests?  If we had a topical area to work with - knitting, photography, papercraft, perhaps the recommendations would be more specific.&lt;br&gt;
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In a post about print media for language learners a few weeks ago, someone recommended the bilingual English-Spanish/French/Italian magazine &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.colorsmagazine.com/&quot;&gt;Colors&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:19:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peewinkle</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808440</link>	
		<description>Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:29:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tastybrains</title>
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		<description>It really depends on her interests.  What kinds of books does she generally like?  I am sure if she can pick a genre, the hive mind could easily spit out enough appropriate titles in that genre to keep her nose in a book for years to come.&lt;br&gt;
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For easy, modern books --&lt;em&gt; &lt;small&gt;and I kind of can&apos;t believe I&apos;m suggesting this&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/em&gt; -- I would see if she&apos;s interested in chick lit.  I hear it&apos;s not all crap, but even the crappy chick lit is written in grammatically correct English and could be an engaging read.  And it seems like most of the other girls I work with enjoy chick lit.  Why?  I don&apos;t know.  But they do.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;d stick with popular, leisure reads instead of English lit class stuff.  Unless she is actually planning on becoming an English lit teacher...you didn&apos;t actually specify what kind of teacher she wants to be.  But if her interests are *not* in lit, I would stick with stuff like the afore mentioned chick lit, Stephen King, John Grisham, etc etc whatever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:39:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nintendo</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808515</link>	
		<description>  &lt;br&gt;
    Please ignore the others, (sorry) the author you seek is Kurt Vonnigut Jr.. (Skip &lt;em&gt;Slaughter House V&lt;/em&gt;) Try &lt;em&gt;Welcome to the Monkey House&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;Mother Night&lt;/em&gt;, ect. both will cost no more then $5 on Amazon New&amp;amp;Used. &lt;br&gt;
     Also I&apos;ve found re-watching my favorite movies with the subtitles on incredibly helpful. Best of luck!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:47:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: occhiblu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808585</link>	
		<description>As a native English speaker who has studied foreign languages, I would &lt;i&gt;seriously&lt;/i&gt; recommend against fantasy or really science-fiction-y novels.  You want something that logically makes sense, in a reality-based way, so that if she loses the thread of the plot or misses some vocabulary, she can pick it back up easily.  Books in which you can&apos;t figure out if your grasp of vocabulary sucks or if the main character really did just turn into a bug are &lt;i&gt;frustrating as hell&lt;/i&gt; for most language-learners.&lt;br&gt;
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I think a fair amount of chick lit would be great, and the other books that keep popping up on Google searches for sixth-grade reading are &lt;i&gt;The Witch of Blackbird Pond&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;A Bridge to Terabithia&lt;/i&gt;, both of which I remember liking and both of which, I think?, would be OK for adults.  Patterson also wrote &lt;i&gt;Esau Have I Loved&lt;/i&gt;, which was one of my favorite books for a long time (and which I recently re-read and still liked).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:29:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: occhiblu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808586</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.njcu.edu/cill/vol2/meloni.html&quot;&gt;This list&lt;/a&gt; of novels appropriate for intermediate ESL students might also help (and googling &quot;ESL novels&quot; turns up a bunch of recommendations).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:31:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wallaby</title>
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		<description>Chick-lit. The words stay fairly simple because they&apos;re not trying to explain anything too complex. The story lines are compelling enough to keep her reading. (I read chick-lit in Portuguese for the same reason.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 03:12:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: katyggls</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53647/What-books-would-be-good-for-learning-English#808635</link>	
		<description>What about a non-fiction, sort of educational book in a subject that interests her? Say a book about gardening if she&apos;s into that, for example. Most of those types of books are written at an eighth or ninth grade level, but they wouldn&apos;t make her feel like a child reading one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 04:26:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PowerCat</title>
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		<description>I have to agree with Kurt Vonnegut. I&apos;m a second language english speaker and I found Kurt&apos;s books to be written in simple sentences and is easy to read, yet is very interesting and kept me reading more!&lt;br&gt;
Try Breakfast of Champions and Cat&apos;s Cradle.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:18:49 -0800</pubDate>
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