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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:50:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: What are some skilled apprenticeship programs I can participate in?</title>
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		<description>I think I&apos;m finally done with undergrad.  I have no interest in grad school right now.  I don&apos;t want a career in my area of study.  How does one go about finding a good apprenticeship/internship in an interesting trade?  I&apos;ve been going to school now for around 20 years and I&apos;ve yet to learn a skill that I can earn a living with. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; About me:&lt;br&gt;
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I majored in US history and anthropology.  I&apos;ve worked in kitchens on and off for 4+ years.  I&apos;ve taught two semesters of English to foreign studens at my university&apos;s English Language Institute.  I brew my own beer.&lt;br&gt;
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I want to learn a skill that I can make money with.  I&apos;m meticulous when I work on a project.  I never want to write another paper in my life.  I don&apos;t want to work 60+ hours a week to make ends meet.&lt;br&gt;
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Here are two posts which were related to my question, but never really went in a helpful direction:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;null&quot;&gt;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/21229&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;null&quot;&gt;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/45186&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Here&apos;s what I DON&apos;T want right now:&lt;br&gt;
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1. Teaching English abroad seems like a great way to travel, but I want to develop a skill that will make me money in the long haul.&lt;br&gt;
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2. Peace Corps seems like a great opportunity, but  I want to develop some sort of trade skill.&lt;br&gt;
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I like the sound of WWOOFING for a while.  At least I&apos;ll learn some gardening/farming that way.&lt;br&gt;
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What are other programs that are free/paid that will teach me useful skills?</description>
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		<title>By: Telf</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807175</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wwoofusa.org/what.html&quot;&gt;WWOOFING&lt;/a&gt;, since the link in the old post was broken.</description>
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		<title>By: bigmusic</title>
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		<description>How much do you need to make ends meet? Because you could work in a kitchen and makes ends meet if you have small ends.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:05:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miss tea</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807203</link>	
		<description>If you want a life trade, carpentry is a great place to be. It&apos;s pretty easy o get an entry-level job, and your committment and skills can take you far. Don&apos;t necessarily do a formal trade apprenticeship-- it&apos;s not necessary. Just get a job and see how oyu like it!&lt;br&gt;
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(Full disclosure: my husband is a carpenter. He has a BFA which he find less than useful in terms of making a living.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:18:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sixacross</title>
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		<description>If you enjoyed brewing beer and like the sound of WWOOFing, you could take a stab at viticulture. Hop on a plane to Australia, South Africa, Chile, or Argentina within the next month or two and you might be able to find something to do on a vineyard during harvest season.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:27:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarshallPoe</title>
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		<description>What miss tea said. If you get on a good design/build crew, listen carefully, do what you are told, and behave yourself, you&apos;ll have skills that are always in demand, everywhere. For most desk-bound Americans, a good contractor is life-saver, a bit like the storied &quot;good mechanic&quot; used to be before they started to build cars that don&apos;t break very often. Most Americans have more money than skill when it comes to home repair--take it from them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:28:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 4ster</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807207</link>	
		<description>If I were looking for a trade, I might consider &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apprenticeschool.com/&quot;&gt;here:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:30:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lebannen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807213</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t really help with your question, but as someone currently doing what is effectively an apprenticeship - paid, but a pittance - in an area unrelated to my degree, I&apos;ll say good luck. And warn you that if it&apos;s any kind of formal apprenticeship leading to a qualification, there&apos;s likely to be coursework. Essays. Reports. Written things. &lt;i&gt;Inane, stupid,&lt;/i&gt; written things. Good luck with them too, or with finding something you can do that doesn&apos;t involve written coursework.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:36:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chrisamiller</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807215</link>	
		<description>A surprising number of history majors end up working in libraries.  A surprising number also get their Masters in Library Science, which isn&apos;t at all strenuous, from what I understand.</description>
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		<title>By: scody</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807221</link>	
		<description>What about editing and/or proofreading?  &lt;small&gt;(Says the editor, of course.)&lt;/small&gt; We&apos;re&lt;em&gt; all about &lt;/em&gt;the meticulous... hell, that&apos;s the whole point of our existence.  Having a few semesters teaching English and a general liberal arts background are great, too -- that describes plenty of editors I know, too.  You won&apos;t get a lot of glory or vast riches on this career path (whether you go the freelance or the full-time route, or some combo of the two), but it&apos;s a good, solid, satisfying profession I find I truly enjoy more and more as time goes on.  Not a bad way to pay the bills.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:44:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sassyfras</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807236</link>	
		<description>why not become a chef or caterer or something along those lines?  brush up on your cooking skills.  be famous for your brew.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:10:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: drjimmy11</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807334</link>	
		<description>are you technically inclined at all? I graduated with a worthless psych degree and after struggling for a while, I started to pick up HTML and web development.&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s certainly not rocket science. If you are basically comfortable with a computer, you can pick up HTML and make good money. People usually don&apos;t care about a degree, if you can do the work. At first i thought I was a &quot;liberal arts&quot; person and wouldn&apos;t be able to do it, but once I started to learn it became fairly easy for me.&lt;br&gt;
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I know it&apos;s not a &quot;trade&quot; in the traditional sense but its been a great way for me to make very good money- and it gives me time to write on the side, which is what I really want to do (sometimes I even do it at work)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:34:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jessicak</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807444</link>	
		<description>re chrisamiller: speaking as a librarian (who got the MLS 2 yrs ago), the MLS would require a fair amount of paper-writing, even a thesis in &lt;a href=&quot;http://sils.unc.edu/&quot;&gt;some programs&lt;/a&gt;. So though the MLS is not the most strenuous grad degree out there, it probably wouldn&apos;t suit someone burnt out on college. &lt;br&gt;
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Plus, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://librarydust.typepad.com/library_dust/2005/03/truth_in_advert.html&quot;&gt;job market&lt;/a&gt; isn&apos;t all that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.librarian.net/stax/1706&quot;&gt;great&lt;/a&gt;, and the pay is even &lt;a href=&quot;http://librarydust.typepad.com/library_dust/2005/10/starting_salari.html&quot;&gt;worse&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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(Though I love my job, and normally encourage like-minded people to look into the profession.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:43:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jessicak</title>
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		<description>sorry, didn&apos;t mean to derail the thread. Knee-jerk librarian self-defense there.</description>
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		<title>By: Meggers_75</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#807447</link>	
		<description>I know that appreticeships programs run by local unions exist for things like becoming an electrician or plumber.&lt;br&gt;
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Also, check out community colleges. There are lots of two-year programs or certificate programs in skilled areas like nursing, radiography, sonography, logistics, surveying, HVAC, home construction, auto repair, paralegal work, computer networking, print technology, web design, culinary trades, etc... &lt;br&gt;
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Check with your local &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floridajobs.org/&quot;&gt;Workforce Board&lt;/a&gt;. Oftentimes they have information on apprenticeship programs for a region as well as labor market surveys regarding in-demand jobs. &lt;br&gt;
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Sometimes I wish I had just chucked the 4-year plan and gone for a skilled trade, too. But it took many years post-degree for me to get rid of my own sense of elitism and entitlement and to realize that working in a technical or non-degree field wouldn&apos;t be some sort of huge threat to my identity.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:45:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chrisamiller</title>
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		<description>No offense intended, &lt;strong&gt;jessicak&lt;/strong&gt;.  By &apos;not strenuous&apos;, I was more referring to the fact that people often work their way to an MLS one or two classes at a time.  It&apos;s not necessarily an all-consuming degree, like some other programs can be.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:29:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Telf</title>
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		<description>Thanks for the info guys.&lt;br&gt;
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I definitely don&apos;t want to continue with food service.  I&apos;ve been able to do it for the past 4 years only because I&apos;ve been telling myself that it&apos;s temporary.  Food service is stressful!  I&apos;d like to have a job where I can talk, or take at least 1 break in a 8-12 hour period.  There are easier ways to make a living than food service.&lt;br&gt;
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As far as viticulture, I&apos;d been thinking about BUNAC in New Zealand. I understand that many people end up working at vineyards.  Not long term, but interesting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:05:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mullingitover</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53580/What-are-some-skilled-apprenticeship-programs-I-can-participate-in#808151</link>	
		<description>A friend of mine went to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.siebelinstitute.com/&quot;&gt;Siebel Brewing Academy&lt;/a&gt; and he&apos;s now a brewmaster at a Rock Bottom Brewery. Listening to him talk about the program made me want to sign up, and I know painfully little about beer and brewing. Part of the program involved spending weeks in Belgium touring breweries and sampling all sorts of beer and food. &lt;br&gt;
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The program is spendy but short, and you come out with a pretty valuable degree and experience.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:21:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Telf</title>
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		<description>Mullingitover,&lt;br&gt;
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That sounds AWESOME.  Hmm... 13k is no joke.  I wonder if I can get student loans for that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:22:58 -0800</pubDate>
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