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	<title>Comments on: We Need Good Bakeware!!</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:28:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: We Need Good Bakeware!!</title>
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		<description>My wife once threatened me with death if I ever dared present her with housewares as gifts.  &quot;I want &lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;real&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/em&gt; gifts&quot; said she.  Fifteen great years later, she wants good bakeware for Christmas.  Good is defined as &quot;won&apos;t ever rust&quot; and &quot;not that floppy silicone nonsense&quot;.  So, Mefites, Hope Me! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Where do I find good bakeware?  Is there such a thing?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:26:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Irontom</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: Emperor SnooKloze</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805395</link>	
		<description>Just to clarify--bakeware as in a bundt pan, muffin tin and cookie sheets, or 9x13&quot; dish, pie plates, etc.?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:28:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: starvingartist</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805401</link>	
		<description>Emile Henry enameled bakeware.  I have a loaf pan and a baking dish, and they are fantastic.  They have the non-stick power of Teflon, but without the worry of chemicals getting in your food or your air, and they look a lot nicer.  We got ours at Viking, but you can probably get them at other kitchen stores.  There is also a website - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emilehenry.com&quot;&gt;emilehenry.com&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:31:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mid</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805404</link>	
		<description>I got my wife a bunch of Le Creuset stuff a few years ago and she says it is the best.  They mostly make pots and pans, but they have a few &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004Y57E/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;baking dishes&lt;/a&gt; that are great.  They are very heavy (cast iron) and spread the heat around really nicely.  Amazon has a big selection.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:32:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Doohickie</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805405</link>	
		<description>Go with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pamperedchef.com/our_products/catalog/product.jsp?productId=12068&amp;categoryCode=FH&quot;&gt;stoneware&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.corningware.com/index.asp?pageId=92&quot;&gt;glassware&lt;/a&gt;.  I prefer glassware; stoneware is porous and kind of a PIA to clean.  My wife is a big stoneware fan (but then again, she sold Pampered Chef for a while (first link).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:33:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: infinitewindow</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805415</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lecreuset.com/usa/home.php&quot;&gt;Le Creuset&lt;/a&gt; makes enameled cast iron bakeware. It&apos;s expensive, though. Maybe you should take her to a store that sells Le Creuset and let her pick out two pieces she would get the most use out of.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:40:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pullayup</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805424</link>	
		<description>If you want cake pans, muffin tins, loaf pans, etc. Chicago Metallic (which primarily servies the baking industry, but has lately been making inroads into Williams Sonoma territory) makes &apos;em good, but they&apos;re not fancy or anything. They&apos;re thick and will last forever, though, and come in more shapes and sizes than you can shake a stick at. If you&apos;re after something fancier, Le Creuset can&apos;t be beat, of course, and you&apos;ll leave it to someone in your will.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:48:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pullayup</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805425</link>	
		<description>Oh, right, neither is made of sillicone, or will rust. Do not get nonstick, especially from Le Creuset; it doesn&apos;t last.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:49:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pitchblende</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805443</link>	
		<description>I second the vote for Chicago Metallic bakeware.  Good, solid stuff.  Not real glamourous or sexy, but hey if that&apos;s what she wants...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:22:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jasperella</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805446</link>	
		<description>Adding a vote for Le Creuset. It&apos;s the best. Not cheap though, but it&apos;s very good quality and will last forever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:29:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: frogan</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805451</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.surlatable.com/&quot;&gt;These people have your back.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.williams-sonoma.com&quot;&gt;So do these guys.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:35:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jet_silver</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805456</link>	
		<description>DeBuyer copper.  Mine are very old and have tin linings.  The modern ones are stainless lined and while that is probably easier to cope with, I haven&apos;t tried one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:41:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jet_silver</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805458</link>	
		<description>eh.  bakeware.  sorry.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:42:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: amtho</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805476</link>	
		<description>You might have fun shopping at a Williams-Sonoma retail store.  It will probably be crowded, but you should be able to get an actual employee to help you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:20:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mkultra</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805482</link>	
		<description>Everything Le Creuset cooks turns out amazingly. If you take a crap in it, and bake it, it&apos;ll make delicious cake.&lt;br&gt;
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Seriously, though, it&apos;s awesome. And, though you wouldn&apos;t expect it, incredibly easy to clean.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:25:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mkultra</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805484</link>	
		<description>Though if you&apos;re looking more for smaller pieces you&apos;re more likely to use for desserts, Emile Henry is a good choice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:27:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrbill</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805505</link>	
		<description>Another plug here for Le Creuset.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:10:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pollomacho</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805511</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;If you take a crap in it, and bake it, it&apos;ll make delicious cake.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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I know who&apos;s house I am &lt;strong&gt;not &lt;/strong&gt;eating at!&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve used a lot of different stuff, Le Creuset is pretty nice, as is the Emile Henry stuff, neither are cheap. Good old Corningware is good for utility baking though if you want cheaper.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:19:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: greycap</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805527</link>	
		<description>Yet another vote for Le Creuset. They&apos;re wonderful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:05:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: concrete</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805530</link>	
		<description>My sister really likes her Nordic Ware (I think it&apos;s cast aluminum).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:11:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sperose</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805572</link>	
		<description>My mother swears by Le Creuset. As far as stores/websites/gift card places to check out: Crate&amp;amp;Barrel, Williams Sonoma, and some other place that completely slipped my mind.&lt;br&gt;
If she has friends whose baking/bakeware she adores, maybe see about finding out what they use.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:42:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hangingbyathread</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805579</link>	
		<description>Le Creuset is tops but before you spend a fortune on it retail, look for one of their outlet stores in your area.  I&apos;ve found some great deals at the one near me.  FYI, all Le Creuset is covered by a lifetime guarantee which covers just about everything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:58:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: uncballzer</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805646</link>	
		<description>from one guy to another--Kitchen aid--i&apos;ve got a collection growing and i love the pots and pans; great stuff, easy to clean--can get at most places like belk, kholes, etc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:55:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bilabial</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805704</link>	
		<description>Wherever you get it, give her this bakeware item on Christmas Eve. Give her the &quot;real present&quot; on Christmas morning. &lt;br&gt;
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Surely she has hinted about at least one other item.&lt;br&gt;
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(I am not suggesting that I think bakeware is not a real present, but I, uh, would prefer something else myself.)&lt;br&gt;
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If you are not certain what exactly she needs to stick in the oven, get her a gift certificate to L.C. - I have several of their pieces, fabulous stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:53:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kc0dxh</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805737</link>	
		<description>America&apos;s Test Kitchen does great testing and reviews.  You can find them at &lt;a href=&quot;http://americastestkitchen.com&quot;&gt;americastestkitchen.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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For round cake pans they recommend first the Chicago Metallic Professional Lifetime Non-Stick at $14.95, then Calphalon&apos;s Commercial Nonstick at $18.95.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:28:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twine42</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805841</link>	
		<description>Le Cruset is good but it is heavy and it will knacker cooking times if you don&apos;t have it hot to start with (for example, our Cruset casserole adds 15-30 minutes to cook time compared to a pyrex casserole we own).&lt;br&gt;
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For our hobtop cooking we use some Pro-Cook (I think) pans made from spun aluminium then pressure sprayed with titanium. They&apos;re light, incredibly strong and nonstick with the ability to use metal tools on them. I&apos;m pretty sure they make ovenwear in the same range.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:01:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: robinpME</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805843</link>	
		<description>FYI, if you go the Le Creuset route: They sell Le Creuset at our local TJ Maxx and Marshalls for _much_ less than retail. I think they&apos;re slightly irregular, but it&apos;s nothing I notice when I look at them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:04:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dr_dank</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805850</link>	
		<description>We have a Calphalon bakeware set that has been pretty solid. You just have to give it the same care you would for any other non-stick set.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:10:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mitheral</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805916</link>	
		<description>For cookie sheets, jelly roll pans, bread pans and cake pans you could get a sheet metal shop that does commercial kitchens to fold up just about any straight side shape (triangles, hexes, octagons) out of stainless steel.  I have several cookie sheets made out of the stuff and they are durable, easy to clean, work better than tin cookie sheets and are shiny.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:17:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Atom12</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53457/We-Need-Good-Bakeware#805926</link>	
		<description>Restaurant supply stores can be a good source for reliable sheet pans ($7) that work like champs. Waaay better than those overpriced air bake monstrosities. You can also get heat proof spatulas, etc. &lt;br&gt;
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Williams-Sonoma is okay, but grossly overpriced in my opinion. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.surlatable.com/&quot;&gt;Sur La Table &lt;/a&gt;has a much wider range of items at all price levels. &lt;br&gt;
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If you&apos;re considering cookbooks, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0618443363/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Dorie Greenspan&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/081184109X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Flo Braker&lt;/a&gt; are two authors I&apos;d recommend off the top of my head.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:24:37 -0800</pubDate>
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