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		<title>Question: Russian History in Book Form: A Quest for a Gift</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift</link>	
		<description>Can you help me find a book which traverses Russian history from, well, as far back as possible up to the Russian Revolution of 1917? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; My specialladyfriend is a little bit of a Russophile and would like to know a bit more about the history of Russia before the Bolsheviks.  So, this is my quest for a Christmas (Hanukkah, really) gift she&apos;ll enjoy.  I think she&apos;d prefer something well-written and not too textbooky.  Any suggestions in this would be superly appreciated.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:15:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Great Big Mulp</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: dilettante</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804407</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/096441841X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Land of the Firebird&lt;/a&gt; by Suzanne Massie is pretty standard.</description>
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		<title>By: PercussivePaul</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804444</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re thinking of casual rather than scholarly reading, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0804109729/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Russka&lt;/a&gt; by Edward Rutherford fits the bill.  It&apos;s historical fiction that traces the lives of a few characters and their descendants throughout Russia&apos;s history. It&apos;s written very much in the style of James Michener.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:06:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804446</link>	
		<description>Suzanne Massie is a fine writer, but 1) she&apos;s not actually a historian, and 2) the book is as much about art as history.  If your gal wants a more general book by an actual historian, I recommend James Billington&apos;s classic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0394708466/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Icon and the Axe : An Interpretive History of Russian Culture&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; or Orlando Figes&apos; more recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0805057838/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Natasha&apos;s Dance: A Cultural History of Russia&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;; those focus on culture as much as history, but I&apos;m afraid the straight history books I have are probably too textbooky.  Feel free to write me if you want to discuss them, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:12:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>languagehat</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dilettante</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804452</link>	
		<description>languagehat - I had issues with &lt;i&gt;Natasha&apos;s Dance&lt;/i&gt;, but it&apos;s been several years since I read it. As I recall, it was (in part) a question of internal contradiction within the book. It could still be useful for the purposes of the question, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:21:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Emperor SnooKloze</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804455</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll second &lt;i&gt;Natasha&apos;s Dance&lt;/i&gt;. Watch for Robert Massie&apos;s stuff. [I wish I had my books in front of me. I&apos;m a Russophile by education &amp;amp; vocation, and there are a lot of good ones out there.] One I remember is &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=21040&quot;&gt;Village Life in Late Tsarist Russia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; from Indiana UP.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:32:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cottoncandyhammer</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804506</link>	
		<description>_____________________&lt;br&gt;
&apos;well-written&apos;:&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0195153944/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;A History of Russia&lt;/a&gt;, Riasanovsky&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0340731346/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Reinterpreting Russia&lt;/a&gt;, Hosking&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0801437989/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;A People Born to Slavery: Russia in Early Modern European Ethnography, 1476-1748&lt;/a&gt;, Marshall Poe&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0295982500/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Vagabond Life: The Caucasus Journals of George Kennan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&apos;not-too-textbooky&apos;:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0691126062/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;The Russian Moment in World History&lt;/a&gt;, Marshall Poe&lt;br&gt;
_____________________&lt;br&gt;
other recommendations:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/080148703X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Of Religion and Empire: Missions, Conversion, and Tolerance in Tsarist Russia&lt;/a&gt;, Geraci&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/155876366X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Ibn Fadlan&apos;s Journey To Russia&lt;/a&gt;, Richard Frye&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0006AUVXA/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Mushrooms, Russia and History&lt;/a&gt;, the Wassons&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0899250505/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Early Slavic Paths and Crossroads&lt;/a&gt;, Roman Jakobson&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9517462654/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;Imperial and National Identities in Pre-Revolutionary, Soviet, and Post-Soviet Russia&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
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If she reads Russian there are some (more) interesting books out there...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:25:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804768</link>	
		<description>Wow, what a great set of suggestions, cottoncandyhammer&amp;mdash;I&apos;m going to update my Amazon wish list!  I somehow doubt the Mulp&apos;s girlfriend reads Russian, but I do, so I&apos;d be glad of an e-mail with some recommendations (I&apos;m intensively into the WWI-Revolution-Civil War period now, but I&apos;m interested in everything).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:16:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804785</link>	
		<description>Um, having done a little investigation, I&apos;m confused by your recommendation for &lt;em&gt;Mushrooms, Russia. and History&lt;/em&gt;.  For one thing, it seems to be unavailable; according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mushroomthejournal.com/coma/nfusum98.html&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt;, it was published in a limited edition of 512 copies and costs thousands of dollars today if you can find a copy.  For another, it&apos;s mainly focused on other countries, devoting &quot;only a single chapter to the role of mushrooms in Russia.&quot;  What did you have in mind?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:53:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: annabkr</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#804828</link>	
		<description>Riasanovsky is the standard history for college courses.  I don&apos;t assign it myself because I use it to crib for my lectures ;) actually, I find it a bit hard to plow through.  Other academic-type big names include Hosking, Martin Malia, and Orlando Figes. Billington&apos;s Icon and Axe is interesting, but maybe not at the beginner level. There are some older Russian historians - Florinsky, Vernadsky - who are good although very focused on politics and the state.  Gregory Freeze and Paul Dukes have nice surveys.  Look for Robert K. Massie&apos;s books on Nicholas and Alexandra, etc. Popular, narrative - good reads.  Also Edward Crankshaw - Shadow of the Winter Palace, about the revolution.&lt;br&gt;
A very controversial scholar is Richard Pipes.  He&apos;s somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan, but he&apos;s a truly brilliant writer.  Russia under the Old Regime and A Concise history of the Russian Revolution are so great to read, if you keep in mind that he&apos;s a live one.&lt;br&gt;
Have fun - Russian history is fascinating.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:01:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cottoncandyhammer</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/53386/Russian-History-in-Book-Form-A-Quest-for-a-Gift#805497</link>	
		<description>re: Mushrooms, Russia. and History:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Heh, glad you brought this up. True, it&apos;s a bit of a stretch! Most of the book does in fact deal with Russia, albeit obliquely at times... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huh.harvard.edu/Libraries/wasson.html&quot;&gt;RG Wasson&lt;/a&gt; (former JP Morgan VP, would later be a character witness for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakobson&quot;&gt;Roman Jakobson&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s citizenship application and the  founder of &apos;ethnomycology&apos; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soma&quot;&gt;Soma&lt;/a&gt;-as-Fly Agaric hypothesis) and his wife were interested in the differences between Russian/Slavic cultures that venerate mushrooms (mushroom-picking, preservation of references in language/superstition) and the &apos;mycophobic&apos; cultures of Western Europe. The first chapter is &apos;Mushrooms and the Russians&apos;, but the bulk of the book is devoted to &apos;The Riddle of the Toad and Other Secrets Mushroomic&apos; (pp 65-374), investigating the role of mushrooms in world folklore/language; not exclusively Russian, true, but very definitely peppered throughout with info. But, it&apos;s the appendices that are very useful for non-native Russian speakers: &apos;Mushrooms in Tolstoy&apos;s &quot;Anna Karenina&quot;&apos;, &apos;Aksakov&apos;s &quot;Remarks and Observations of a Mushroom Hunter&quot;&apos;, and the index of &apos;Fungal Metaphors and Semantic Associations&apos;.&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s very definitely rare and very definitely a beautifully-made book - last copy was around $4k on eBay - but for me it&apos;s a sort of Turing Test for libraries (and rare book policies). I don&apos;t own it - I scanned it and work off a .pdf copy and Wasson&apos;s own annotated copy from the archives. As far as the review from the CT Mycological Society (COMA!?!) you cited above, it&apos;s a valid lay assessment - later specialists on entheogens (Richard Schultes, Jonathan Ott) are much more &apos;traditional&apos; academics and not as controversial and more cautious (&apos;restrained&apos;, maybe) in their hypotheses. But Wasson is no &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allegro&quot;&gt;Allegro&lt;/a&gt;. That&apos;s what makes Wasson so engaging for me, at least - he didn&apos;t have the background or baggage of a professional academic.&lt;br&gt;
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On a lighter note, Mark Chilton&apos;s compilation of all references to hallucinogenic mushrooms in the journals/accounts of early Russian explorers (Shouting and Reeling About: Hallucinogenic Mushrooms and the Observations of Siberian Explorers in the 19th Century) is also an interesting non-traditional read for anthropologists/Slavophiles - basically verbatim extracts culled from first-person accounts of native cultures in Siberia. Not as rare as Wasson.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:54:52 -0800</pubDate>
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