Comments on: Is AppleCare worth it if you have a pet geek?

Question: Is AppleCare worth it if you have a pet geek?

C.Batt — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:03:31 -0800

I'm buying my wife a MacBook. Should I also buy AppleCare?

Consider:
I'm a geek, comfortable building PCs from the ground up. I also own a TiBook and a blue g4 tower , thus I'm quite familiar with Apple systems. I figure that my skills + the 1 year warranty that the MacBook comes with should be enough to sort out any initial difficulties - past that, I can handle the rest.

So, is AppleCare worth it?

By: mostlymartha

mostlymartha — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:16:44 -0800

From my boy (who worked at the Apple store for two years):

You geek skills will certainly be useful in keeping the computer happy and healthy and preventing common mistakes that could make it die. Macs do have a pretty low failure rate and most of those that die do so in the first year. The only problem you might encounter if something does go wrong after that first year, and you want to fix it yourself, is that Mac parts aren't for sale on the open market. You might be able to find a vendor who would selll them to you, but expect a signifigant markup on the price.

In short, he thinks you probably don't need to get AppleCare. Buy the time it might start breaking down in a serious way (around year three, when AppleCare expires), the money that would be spent fixing it would be better spent upgrading to a new machine.

By: mrbill

mrbill — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:22:06 -0800

For a portable - yes, without a doubt. In any case, you've got a year to decide if you want AppleCare, as you can buy it any time before the original warranty runs out.

By: ThePinkSuperhero

ThePinkSuperhero — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:23:08 -0800

Applecare is 100% worth it. My iBook had some serious problems a few months ago. I thought, great, now I have to buy a new computer. But it will still under warranty, huzzah! Repaired for free. Definitely get Applecare.

By: raf

raf — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:24:52 -0800

I've always obtained applecare for my Apple laptops, and it has always been worth it. One machine had repeated problems, and the other was perfect until 2.5 years in a major component failed. (The first machine required a new screen at one point; without Applecare that would have cost me $1000 or so.)

By: lalex

lalex — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:29:03 -0800

Get AppleCare not for the tech support, but as an insurane policy against any physical problems you might encounter as the computer ages. As my laptop aged, I encountered broken hinges, cracks in the casing and screen, etc., and Apple replaced the parts quickly and for free. Even if you are able to make those repairs yourself, the parts might cost more than AppleCare over time.

On the other hand, if you are nicer to your computers than I am, you might not have these problems. You can wait until the free AppleCare period expires (a year) and then decide if you want to purchase it.

By: mto

mto — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:32:58 -0800

I have found the MacBook line of laptops (Pro and not Pro) to be really crappy. I am deeply missing the quality of my PowerBooks. I can't say whether you'll come out ahead with AppleCare, but I'd venture a guess towards 'yes'. I'd suggest you get it.

By: limicoline

limicoline — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:33:31 -0800

The Apple repair guys I know get Applecare on their own laptops. The parts are so expensive that even if the repair work is free, Applecare still pays itself off by the third year more often than not.

By: Hexidecimal

Hexidecimal — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:36:41 -0800

I'd say go for applecare. From what I've read and been told Apple treats you like royalty if you have it, and like a red headed stepchild if you don't.

By: bonaldi

bonaldi — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:48:41 -0800

mto is absolutely on the money. My experience of the MacBooks is that they are very poor in terms of parts quality and robustness. Get it, even if just for the parts.

By: meerkatty

meerkatty — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:51:02 -0800

Yes - I just got it for my macbook. And AppleCare was more than worth it when the battery on my ibook crapped out just after the one year warranty expired.

By: kenneth

kenneth — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:51:28 -0800

For what it's worth, Consumer Reports generally suggest staying away from extended warranties. However, they make an exception for laptops generally, and AppleCare specifcially (free article here--link might die in December) for the tech support.

Also, don't forget about the credit card warranty extender.

By: nicwolff

nicwolff — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 12:58:06 -0800

My business partner was a tech at Tekserve (NYC's biggest and best Mac repair shop) for years; he gets AppleCare on every Mac he buys.

By: calistasm

calistasm — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:00:10 -0800

Does the credit card warranty extender apply for computer equipment though? I have a friend who works at an Apple store in CA and he says people don't want to get AppleCare because they think the warranty extender will cover it, but apparently it doesn't. I could be misremembering, however.

By: anadem

anadem — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:05:04 -0800

AppleCare = peace of mind

By: jdl

jdl — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 13:08:54 -0800

Another yes here. Got a MacBook Pro + AppleCare. It had some issues and they took it away and handed me over a new one.

By: FauxScot

FauxScot — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:19:49 -0800

My Applecare (on a G4 desktop, an iBook, and two powerbooks) has been worth every cent.

In 2007, I'll but an Intel MacBook, and will certainly get Applecare for that. I also plan to acquire a Mac Mini, and won't get it for that because of the absurdly low price by comparison.

It's a crap shoot on the laptops... chances are you won't need it, but the very first time you do, for anything, it'll cost more than the Applecare.

By: C.Batt

C.Batt — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:22:38 -0800

Alright, thread over. Thanks for all the feedback so far.

I purchased a 2.00ghz Core2Duo MacBook for my wife. I held off on the AppleCare, for now. I purchased it with my credit card, so I could get any warranty benefits that (may or may not) apply. If I detect even the slightest smidgen of nonsense in the first year, I'll buy her the AppleCare.

By: dobbs

dobbs — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:55:25 -0800

You don't have to buy Applecare with the computer. You can buy it up to a year later to the day from when you buy the computer. So, my suggestion is to wait. It may go down in price and, to my knowledge, it has never gone up in price.

By: nonmyopicdave

nonmyopicdave — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:52:52 -0800

I bought a TiBook and waited on the AppleCare just like you're planning to do. Saw no problems that first year so I did not buy it. My titanium is still running strong after 4 years.

By: GilloD

GilloD — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:34:17 -0800

I used to say Applecare was worth it. In the past, when my power supplies broke, it was a 5 minute phone call and I had a new one overnighted to me.

However, my battery recently died. I mean DIED, the laptop doesn't even recognize it anymore. If I have to unplug the laptop, I have to set the clock. It's a pain. So, I gave the Apple folks a ring. We run through the whole diagnostic, she determines it's the battery and then. Then. Then it's 110$.

Turns out batteries just aren't covered in that ridiculously expensive plan. READ THE FINE PRINT! Other than that caveat, it's the best customer service expirence I've ever had and I hate to be less than 100% enthusiastic about it.

By: schwa

schwa — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:47:54 -0800

Always get AppleCare for laptops. Always.

However you do get 12 months hardware warranty and the 3 year applecare contract starts on your Mac's purchase date so it is really only 2 years warranty. You can also wait until your 12 months warranty is almost up before buying AppleCar.

By: 31d1

31d1 — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:16:54 -0800

Apple care is totally worth it. When the logic board craps out around year two - they take care of it simple and clean. And anything else that happens, for three years. They figure out whats wrong and fix it, for no charge.

In my experience extended warranties are usually a rip, but not in this case. It is a rip in the sense that they charge you for it, but they really do honor it, and it will change any experience you might need to have with Apple significantly.

By: UESMark

UESMark — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:34:38 -0800

laptops fall off desks. buy applecare.

By: tsarfan

tsarfan — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 23:40:38 -0800

As a former electronics salesman the rule of thumb I told my customers was "if you use it every day, shove things in it, or if it has moving parts, get the warranty. And if you get the warranty, take advantage of the preventive maintenance."

And with that said, I could never stand Consumer Reports who were toilet paper experts on page two, dishwasher experts on page three, and tv experts on page four. Ask people who sell or service the product that you're interested in. They're the real experts.

By: spitbull

spitbull — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 07:24:57 -0800

Contrary opinion here. It all depends how you use a laptop and how often you intend to replace it. Since I replace mine every year, I do not buy AppleCare. Thats a little extreme, to be sure (and I don't pay for the machines, or I would make them last 18-24 months). But if you're handy, it's not true that Apple parts are not available on the open market. By the time the MacBook is a year old, used parts will be easily available (though never "cheap" compared to Wintel machine parts). Major failures on Apple laptops are often covered out of warranty, since they are often the result of design flaws (they are *still* replacing iBook logic boards, I believe). For the $300 AppleCare costs, you're 1/3 of the way, more or less, to a new MacBook. A MacBook Pro entails a different calculation, of course. But in my experience, Apple laptops give one year of intensive service, or 2-3 years of lower level service, before they fall apart and/or achieve obsolescence. Depends on what you do with them.

By: kdern

kdern — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:00:15 -0800

You should definitely buy it. The mac laptops are great computers but things go wrong. My case cracked, and they're fixing it for free.

By: GS1977

GS1977 — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:42:05 -0800

I bought my Macbook back in the Summer and I've had to get it fixed 3 times already. I think I'll suck it up and buy that Applecare. Of course, YMMV.

Not to jack this thread, but RE: credit card warranty coverage... Can anyone point me to details on this? Is it by card or is there a universal policy on this? I have a Platinum Mastercard if it matters.

By: emptyinside

emptyinside — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:54:00 -0800

YES, buy applecare. Especially on unproven technology. Laptops present very little option for seasoned IT vets to fix. I've had an iBook with applecare for 3 years, and when it broke, they fixed it!

By: justgary

justgary — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:05:33 -0800

This isn't really an answerable question because so much goes into the decision. The pinksuperhero having a problem fixed and telling you it's worth it is, well, worthless. The next person could tell you they didn't use it so don't get it.

If you simply want piece of mind, get it. Otherwise, this isn't a yes/no question. Lots of people don't get applecare and have no problems. If you're going to keep the macbook 3/4 years, I'd say certainly. 2? Or are you going to update frequently? Then it's a tougher choice. Don't get apple care on three laptops and you have almost enough saved to buy the fourth. Remember, most problems with laptops come in the first year, and you're already covered.

laptops fall off desks. buy applecare.
posted by UESMark

Very bad advice. Read your apple care agreement.

"accident, abuse, neglect, misuse" are not covered under applecare.

By: justgary

justgary — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:08:19 -0800

Ask people who sell or service the product that you're interested in. They're the real experts.
posted by tsarfan

Nonsense. Ask the best buy dude if you need insurance and you're asking someone who's not an expert and gets ordered to push it. Jesus, no wonder so many people get screwed.

By: randomthoughts

randomthoughts — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:02:53 -0800

Question: Does the Apple Care cover things like a dropped laptop, which suffered some damage during as a result of the drop? After 2 months of getting my 17" PowerBook G4 the laptop, which was in my carrying case, fell off my washing machine and was damaged pretty bad. I did get the Apple Care package, but didn't know if this is covered.

My Dell laptop was repaired under the Dell Complete Care program without any additional costs and the entire mother board and case was replaced with no problem.

Does the Apple Care program cover accidental damage?

By: pkreutzer

pkreutzer — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:39:40 -0800

Extended warranties are a crock, pretty much by definition.

But after a year of service the AppleCare salesman called and offered me a discounted ($250) policy on my 12" al powerbook I bit. I actually thought I'd perhaps get some software questions answered, but that was rationale.

10 months later the hard drive in the albook died. The cost to replace would have been more than the AppleCare contract, I felt I hit the lottery the same way I did coming down with pneumonia a year after getting health insurance.