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	<title>Comments on: Halloween is over, but zombie eyes persist!</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:28:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Halloween is over, but zombie eyes persist!</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist</link>	
		<description>I suddenly (3 months ago) have &quot;dark circles&quot; under my eyes, what to do? I thought it may be fall allergies but winter has set in and no change. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; In August I noticed dark patches below my eyes, &lt;i&gt;not so much lines&lt;/i&gt;, but darkness especially at the inward edges. I have pictures from 6 months ago where I do not have this. It&apos;s not a morning or night thing, it&apos;s basically the same all the time. &lt;br&gt;
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I have no allergies that I&apos;m aware of; my parents do not have this trait; I&apos;ve read it sometimes is a part of aging, although I am 25. I tried taking claritin for a week, no change. Also, I spent a week 3 time zones across the US and no change -- I don&apos;t think it&apos;s an environment problem.&lt;br&gt;
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A few things did change around 3-4 months ago: I moved to a new apartment, I stopped walking 1-2 miles everyday, I started going to the gym every other day.&lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t think I&apos;m dehydrated, I&apos;m constantly going to the bathroom and getting water refills. I take a daily multivitamin. &lt;br&gt;
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Any ideas? I&apos;m also a dude, so make-up probably isn&apos;t acceptable =P</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:20:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LoriFLA</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776871</link>	
		<description>Any new medications, herbal supplements or stimulants?  &lt;br&gt;
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Have you been eating differently or getting less sleep?  Sleep deprivation can cause dark cirlces, as you are probably aware. &lt;br&gt;
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There are some cremes on the market that claim to lessen the appearance of dark circles.  I would try getting at least 8 hours a night, and improving your nutrition if it is currently weak, and see if there is a change.</description>
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		<title>By: frecklefaerie</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776886</link>	
		<description>A food allergy can do it.  I have a sensitivity to eggs and I get those patches when I&apos;ve had a piece of cake or whatever.&lt;br&gt;
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Caffeine and nicotine seem to cause it, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:46:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doctor_negative</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776911</link>	
		<description>Sleep apnea?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:22:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>doctor_negative</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: voidcontext</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776917</link>	
		<description>I started to get the same thing around the age of 24, and I&apos;m 27 now. It doesn&apos;t seem to vary at all, and I assumed it was just natural aging. Thinner skin there or something. My mother had it too.&lt;br&gt;
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I have nothing really helpful to add to the thread, just commiserating with &lt;strong&gt;jacobjacobs&lt;/strong&gt; and tagging along suddenly wondering if it is avoidable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:30:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Xoder</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776937</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m with &lt;b&gt;jacobjacobs&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;voidcontext&lt;/b&gt;. Started getting them a few months ago. I&apos;m 23, male, and I&apos;d like to think I&apos;m getting enough nutrition. The only thing I might not be getting enough of is sleep, so that&apos;s what I thought it was, until I had a week or so waking up to my own schedule and found that it hadn&apos;t gone away.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:48:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg Nog</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776955</link>	
		<description>My grandmother got circle-y things under her eyes as she developed problems with her thyroid.  It wasn&apos;t anything life-threatening (she&apos;s still alive and kicking at 88), but you might ask a doctor about possible thyroid-related issues.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:59:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Greg Nog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Lyn Never</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776958</link>	
		<description>I have to have enough potassium and iron to not have the rings.  Even if I&apos;m sleeping like crap, if I remember to take my multivitamin 3-5 days in a row they mostly go away.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:01:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lyn Never</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gnutron</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#776965</link>	
		<description>At the risk of sounding extraordinarily metrosexual....&lt;br&gt;
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I am 28 &amp;amp; male.  I have definitely noticed the skin under my eyes getting a bit darker and wrinkled over the past 6 years.  The appearance changes on how rested and hydrated I am.  My mother and grandfather have signifcant eye bags, so I suspect genetics are involved.  Unless your skin changes are really signifcant, you may just have to chalk it up to aging.  An anti-wrinkle or firming night cream may help.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:04:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacobjacobs</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777006</link>	
		<description>I get a decent amount of sleep, actually more than I did in years past and my week long vacation had 8-10 hours sessions each night/morning. I&apos;ve only tried one &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drugstore.com/qxp53063_333181_sespider/st__ives/cucumber_and_elastin_eye_stress_gel.htm&quot;&gt;eye product&lt;/a&gt; but it has not been any help thus far. &lt;br&gt;
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Hmm, my multivitamin is out of date (found current bottle boxed away). I&apos;ve read that can cause a loss of potency, but I previously thought all that was bs, I may pick up a new bottle.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:46:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Phred182</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777030</link>	
		<description>During my 20&apos;s and early 30s, as a cigarette smoker, I had these all the time.  Quitting smoking helped.  Hydration. Exercise to a heavy sweat at least 5x/week helps too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:09:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LobsterMitten</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777046</link>	
		<description>Paula Begoun, who writes about cosmetics, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/art.asp?ID=240&quot;&gt;says here&lt;/a&gt; that dark circles can be caused by sun damage and sometimes by food allergies. So get a lightweight sunscreen to wear on your face, and put it on after you shower in the morning. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/art.asp?ID=185&quot;&gt;Also according to her&lt;/a&gt; eye creams don&apos;t have anything other than normal moisturizer in them, but they&apos;re more expensive. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cosmeticscop.com/learn/reviews.asp?bFlag=1&amp;pos=1&amp;selCategory=122&amp;selBrand=00&amp;selRating=00&amp;keys=&amp;button1=Search+Product+Reviews&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; are her reviews of skin care products marketed toward men -- if you don&apos;t find one that sounds good, you can search other product reviews. A lot of brands like Neutrogena make SPF 15 face moisturizers in gender-neutral packaging (ie, it&apos;s white; no pink, no Exxxxtreme Sports Manly Dude-rub).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:36:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jkaczor</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777101</link>	
		<description>More sex lately?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:15:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: oxford blue</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777168</link>	
		<description>When I&apos;m tired it&apos;s worse. &lt;br&gt;
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I do the metrosexual jazz and it doesn&apos;t help. &lt;br&gt;
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Donc, sleep and exercise and smiling helps.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:02:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WaterSprite</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777191</link>	
		<description>Go to a doctor.  Changes in your skin are definitely a scary indication that something is wrong/missing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:24:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WaterSprite</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Joseph Gurl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777319</link>	
		<description>I developed these bad boys in a sudden 6 month burst around the time I turned 30. &lt;br&gt;
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I like them, they make me look tired, so I can always complain to people that I&apos;m overworked or some shit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:58:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Gurl</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: lunchbox</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777391</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/33156&quot;&gt;A similar question&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:01:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>lunchbox</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gt2</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777394</link>	
		<description>I had always heard that dark circles around the eyes could indicate iron deficiency (repeating what Lyn Never ).  It might be worth  a doctor&apos;s visit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:02:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monkey0nCrack</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/51359/Halloween-is-over-but-zombie-eyes-persist#777872</link>	
		<description>I thought &apos;dark circles&apos; was an iron deficiency also, especially if your skin is tending more pale or turning &apos;more yellow&apos; to boot.  &lt;br&gt;
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Do a blood test, and if &apos;low iron&apos; says the doctor, check for reasons why your iron is lower.  It could be an indication of something more serious.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:19:01 -0800</pubDate>
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