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	<title>Comments on: What to do about the odd father out?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:06:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: What to do about the odd father out?</title>
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		<description>I want to bring alcohol for Christmas.  This being AskMe, of course there is... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; My immediate family all live in the same area of North Carolina.  I usually send them individual gifts for Christmas, but when I fly to visit them I tend to just bring one, smaller gift for the whole family, due to the financial cost of travel.&lt;br&gt;
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This year, now that all my siblings are old enough to enjoy it, I&apos;ve been thinking of buying a very nice bottle of wine for the family to share.   I think it would go over very well.  The only problem:  my father is a recovered alcholic.  He&apos;s fine with people drinking around him -- and mom even encourages us to imbibe for the holidays -- but, so far as I know, he&apos;s not had a drop in over a decade.&lt;br&gt;
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Clearly, he could not partake of this gift.  To complicate matters further, at only 60, he&apos;s sadly in fairly shaky mental (and physical) health, and I&apos;m beginning to think he may not be around for many Christmases more, so I&apos;d like to be sure I get something he&apos;d appreciate.&lt;br&gt;
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He has no real other vices -- he gave up smoking and drinking at about the same time and, until his health began to prohibit it, spent almost all his time working like mad to support his family.&lt;br&gt;
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Should I forego the wine and bring something universally enjoyable?  Bring him a sidegift to make up for it?  Just bring the wine knowing he&apos;d appreciate the thought?  Forego the whole idea and bring something else completely?&lt;br&gt;
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What would you do?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:01:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ThePinkSuperhero</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#765879</link>	
		<description>Bring something the whole family can enjoy together, like your father&apos;s favorite candy.</description>
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		<title>By: jerseygirl</title>
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		<description>I say bring a wine, but don&apos;t make it the focal point of the family gift. When you get to NC, assemble or order a cheese platter with grapes or a nice chocolate platter perhaps. Your selection of wine might dictate what would be a better pairing -- chocolate or cheese.&lt;br&gt;
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 Have the wine be an aside.  That way everyone can enjoy the platter and those who wish to can enjoy the wine as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:12:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EatTheWeak</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#765885</link>	
		<description>I would avoid the alcohol for the moment. When my brothers came of age, it was wonderful to be able to share a drink with them, so I appreciate with the sentiment you&apos;re angling for. But doing such a thing in the presense of a recovering alcoholic could be a bit insensetive, general coolness notwithstanding. &lt;br&gt;
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I would aim to include him in the &quot;main&quot; gift, rather than go after something of a consolation present. In the years to come, you&apos;ll have more chances to drink with your siblings than holidays with your Dad. &lt;br&gt;
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Really, though - wonderful gift idea on it&apos;s face.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:15:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: different</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#765934</link>	
		<description>What EatTheWeak said.  I think you answered your own question really.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:52:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Secret Life of Gravy</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#765947</link>	
		<description>Enjoythe wine.  Every recovered alcoholic I&apos;ve known is accustomed to the fact that people still drink.  Some alcoholics even take vicarious enjoyment in that.  But I would buy your dad a gift.  Something small that only he would enjoy.  Who is going to complain about that or see it as &quot;unfair&quot;?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:02:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#765953</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know your family, but my sister is a recovering alcoholic, and like your father she&apos;s OK with other people drinking around her.  At family gift-giving occasions, my brother and I sometimes give each other gifts of wine or other alcoholic beverages, but there&apos;s a general understanding that they&apos;re to be enjoyed by the recipient later, not opened and shared right then.  I think it would be rude, at best, to bring something to be shared among all-but-one members of your family. A separate gift for just your father would be awkward, since you&apos;re not giving individual gifts there and then to each member of your family.  Choose something else.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:06:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amizu</title>
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		<description>Skip the wine, or save it for some time when you and your siblings get together without your parents.  It does seem rude to give a family gift that one can&apos;t enjoy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:12:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZackTM</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#765971</link>	
		<description>yeah, I think it&apos;d be rude and make him feel left out even though that wasn&apos;t the intention. It&apos;s like bringing a honey baked ham when one of your relatives is a strict vegetarian.  It&apos;s not that you&apos;d worry the vegetarian would crave a bite of the ham, but instead that they couldn&apos;t enjoy the gift which was meant for everyone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:17:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iurodivii</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#766011</link>	
		<description>Share something non-alcoholic that the whole family can enjoy together then take your siblings out and buy them a top-shelf srink or two at your local watering hole.  No need to pass up sharing a nice drink with your siblings now that they can share it with you.  And as new/younger drinkers teaching them a thing or two about ordering a drink at a bar can be more important than the drinks themselves.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 12:49:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gauchodaspampas</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#766032</link>	
		<description>I second getting a cheese platter, and emphasizing that, while also getting some wine to go with it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:02:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: philad</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#766250</link>	
		<description>I agree with jerseygirl - give the wine but don&apos;t make it the focal point of the gift.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:12:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twirlypen</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50537/What-to-do-about-the-odd-father-out#766291</link>	
		<description>I guess giving the wine but not having it be the &apos;main&apos; present defeats the purpose of spending the whole present budget on a bottle of nice wine.  Either you guy a great wine and drink it on the day, which could make your father feel left out, or you don&apos;t buy the wine at all.  At least, not a wonderful bottle.  If you think he wouldn&apos;t enjoy being around everyone else while they enjoy your present, then get something else.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:53:26 -0800</pubDate>
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