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	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:52:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Help me escape my bed bug hell.</title>
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		<description>Help me escape my bed bug hell. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I have been dealing with a bed bug infestation for about a year and a half.   It is a nightmare that has been going on for too long.  Although it&apos;s a minor infestation, no matter how many times my place is treated/vacummed/sprayed etc. it doesn&apos;t go away...the bugs probably travel from apartment to apartment in my building.  I&apos;ve gotten to the point where I just want to move.  However, I want to make sure I do it right.  &lt;br&gt;
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THE PLAN: To rent a new apartment and put every single thing I own into storage.  Since I live in the northeast, if I move during the dead of winter and store things in an unheated storage unit, I am expecting that the cold will kill the bugs and the eggs.  &lt;br&gt;
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For the first month all I will bring to the new place will be a brand new bed and clothes that have been freshly washed in hot water.  Then after an adequate amount of exposure to below-freezing temps, I will bring the rest of my stuff out of storage and into the new place.   The question is&#8212;how long is adequate?&lt;br&gt;
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I cannot find any hard &amp;amp; fast information online about exactly how long it takes to freeze the bugs and their eggs to death.  I am *terrified* to take these critters to a new apartment.  The good thing is that since my apartment has been treated so often, if anything the infestation is very minor...so I&apos;m hoping I only have to worry about a few bugs trying to hitch a ride to my new place.  But if I don&apos;t do this right, I could bring them along.  Has anyone who&apos;s had this problem successfully moved to a new place without these critters along?  What are your thoughts?</description>
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		<title>By: trevyn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761233</link>	
		<description>&quot;...place the legs of the bed in saucers of mineral oil, creating a &quot;moat&quot; the critters can&apos;t cross.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761235</link>	
		<description>To clarify, your question is specifically how long does it take for exposure to cold to kill bedbugs?  I think you would need to leave all belongings in below-freezing temperatures that were &lt;i&gt;consistently&lt;/i&gt; below freezing for a number of days.  I am not sure that is a situation you can easily do, although perhaps you can if you move during the worst of a northeast winter.&lt;br&gt;
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An exterminator sprayed my apartment, and told me the poisons would remain active for six to eight weeks.  I moved within that timeframe and while I do not want to say that I got rid of them (it&apos;s become a superstitious thing with me), I will say that I have not seen any live bedbugs since my move.  In my case, I tried my best to move long enough from the spray date that it had time enough to kill everything, but not far away that a fresh infestation had time to take hold.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:54:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: np312</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761244</link>	
		<description>Make sure your storage isn&apos;t heated, most are.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:01:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sara Anne</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761258</link>	
		<description>I threw a lot of stuff away, particularly wooden furniture, as wood is the preferred egg-laying surface of bedbugs.  Keep in mind that bed bugs can live for a whole year without a meal.  I stored most things that I kept in an unheated garage for a year, and it seems to have worked.&lt;br&gt;
If I were you I&apos;d buy a new bed, and wash  all your clothes and linens in the hottest possible water before allowing them in the new place.&lt;br&gt;
Sorry you&apos;re going through this.  I had a similar situation, and it made me feel crazy, verging on paranoid, like I&apos;d never escape them.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:18:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara Anne</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Araucaria</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761259</link>	
		<description>Is it possible to fumigate the storage area?  And leave the furniture there 6 to 8 weeks?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:18:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lampoil</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761260</link>	
		<description>Fumigation doesn&apos;t do anything to bed bugs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:21:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: decathecting</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761300</link>	
		<description>I had bedbugs a few years ago, and after 3 very expensive professional pest treatments, I discovered diatomaceous earth. It&apos;s a white powder that you should be able to order online. Sprinkle it everywhere you&apos;ve seen the bugs, on your furniture, etc. Leave it there. Over the course of a few weeks, the bugs will eat it, spread it, and die.&lt;br&gt;
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If you want to go the storage route, I&apos;d treat everything in the storage space with diatomaceous earth and then leave it for a few weeks. The stuff works miracles, I swear.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:47:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: decathecting</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761303</link>	
		<description>Also see &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth#Pest_control&quot;&gt;wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; for more info on how it works.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 16:48:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hot soup girl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761342</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sorry I don&apos;t have an answer for you, but have you seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/tags/bedbugs&quot;&gt;the other begbug threads&lt;/a&gt;?  There may be some advice/empathy/solace there.  It sounds like a terrible thing to have to deal with.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 17:45:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761381</link>	
		<description>Call in professional help.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:02:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761409</link>	
		<description>Watch out with that diatomaceous earth &amp;mdash; there&apos;s one form that&apos;s useful and normal, and another that&apos;s cancer-causing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:48:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>WCityMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761413</link>	
		<description>wsitymike, please explain, with cites if you have them.  I am a big DM user, is there something I should know?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:54:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: caddis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761414</link>	
		<description>um DE</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:54:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sallyfur</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761475</link>	
		<description>The crystalline sort (consisting primarily of cristobalite) is the lung-damaging (and eye-damaging) variety, with the amorphous sort being more friendly to humans. I don&apos;t think you can accidentally purchase the nasty, sharp, pointy kind commercially in the US.&lt;br&gt;
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Don&apos;t breathe it, though. It&apos;s worse than pink insulation dust.&lt;br&gt;
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Here&apos;s a data sheet for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inchem.org/documents/icsc/icsc/eics0248.htm&quot;&gt;amorphous&lt;/a&gt; and one for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inchem.org/documents/icsc/icsc/eics0809.htm&quot;&gt;crystalline&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:28:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: richmondparker</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761633</link>	
		<description>Heard a good story on NPR a week or two ago.  They didn&apos;t give any great advice but did mention the &lt;a href=&quot;http://bedbugblog.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;Bed Bug Blog&lt;/a&gt;.  You might find some good stuff there...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:05:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: milkdropcoronet</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#761660</link>	
		<description>i JUST read somewhere of an offbeat strategy that worked for someone. some guy figured that since bedbugs are nocturnal creatures, and need a host to survive, he would jump out of bed at 10pm, turn on all the lights, and go sleep at a friend&apos;s house. after a while, all the bedbugs died.  sounds too simple/good to be true, but it worked for him!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 07:02:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: footnote</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#762067</link>	
		<description>If I were you, I&apos;d give extermination a go again.  Hire professionals  and make sure they&apos;re experienced in bed bugs and use the new generation of insect growth regulators like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zoecon.com/IE/whats_new_03.htm&quot;&gt;Gentrol&lt;/a&gt;, rather than just the old pesticides.  &lt;br&gt;
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If that doesn&apos;t work, then I would go the route of moving and storage, but I wouldn&apos;t count on the cold weather to kill them.  Instead, I&apos;d leave the stuff in storage for two years so that they&apos;d die of starvation.  Maybe, in the end, you&apos;d decide that something you can live without for two years is something you can just throw out from the get go.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:36:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WCityMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/50161/Help-me-escape-my-bed-bug-hell#762133</link>	
		<description>Fresh-water D.E. is the okay part; salt-water or heat-treated D.E. is the problem.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?num=100&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;newwindow=1&amp;safe=off&amp;as_qdr=all&amp;q=%22salt-water+diatomaceous+earth%22&amp;btnG=Search&quot;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;i JUST read somewhere of an offbeat strategy that worked for someone. some guy figured that since bedbugs are nocturnal creatures, and need a host to survive, he would jump out of bed at 10pm, turn on all the lights, and go sleep at a friend&apos;s house. after a while, all the bedbugs died. sounds too simple/good to be true, but it worked for him!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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That wouldn&apos;t work &amp;mdash; they can live without food for 18 months.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:44:42 -0800</pubDate>
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