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	<title>Comments on: Now that's what I call Marine Biology!</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:13:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Now that&apos;s what I call Marine Biology!</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology</link>	
		<description>What&apos;s the best way to go about going &quot;back&quot; to school after dropping out and taking a few years off?  Of course, there is a ton  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I did a brief stint in college (one year at the University of Minnesota) before being lured away by the Dot Com frenzy.  I was studying Computer Science and would have probably gone for a minor in Philosophy or Journalism if I had stuck around.&lt;br&gt;
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It&apos;s now several years later and I&apos;m finally considering going back to school.  What&apos;s the easiest way to go about doing that?  I took a ton of AP classes in high school (CS, Chemistry, Physics, English, etc) and had excellent test scores (34 on the ACT and 15-something on the SAT) and a decent GPA, but I&apos;m wondering if any of that even applies at this point?&lt;br&gt;
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Having said that, I totally slacked off in college.  I basically barely attended the second semester, because I was hired for a programming job during the winter break and juggling the two and my partying wasn&apos;t really possible.  I didn&apos;t fail any classes, but my GPA wasn&apos;t exactly impressive either.&lt;br&gt;
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So now I have several computer jobs under my belt and a semi-successful music career (which might have to get put on the back burner since mixing touring and college could put me back in my current situation).  I&apos;ve also taught myself some languages, lived in Europe for a year and read a lot, but I don&apos;t know if any of that counts for much either.&lt;br&gt;
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So how do I go about applying for schools?  I thing I&apos;m ready to try harder at school if I decide to go back, so I&apos;d like to go to a higher quality school.  I&apos;m not entirely positive about my majors, but the things I&apos;ve considered are Philosoophy, Economics, Linguistics, International Business, Political Science or Law.  &lt;br&gt;
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Is this reasonable?  Can I apply to a school like Columbia, the London School of Economics, the University of Chicago or UC-Berkley and explain that I just screwed around for a few years because I just didn&apos;t know what I wanted to do?&lt;br&gt;
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More importantly, should I even do this?  I&apos;m only 26, so I don&apos;t feel like I&apos;m too old for school, but I wonder if I&apos;d do it better the second time or just get lured away again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:00:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Doohickie</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology#744103</link>	
		<description>My wife finished her bachelor&apos;s last year at the age of 42.  26 is not too old!&lt;br&gt;
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She started by going to a community college and taking classes.  That&apos;s one way to get back in the swing of things, especially if your school record the first time around was less than stellar; you can crank out several A&apos;s and then start looking at four year schools.&lt;br&gt;
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You can start by applying to those schools you mention, but you may find that you need a better track record in a community college to erase your inattention to classes the first time around.</description>
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		<title>By: muddgirl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology#744120</link>	
		<description>I would call the admissions offices of places where you&apos;d like to attend - many programs actively encourage &quot;non-traditional students,&quot; especially those with lots of life experience.&lt;br&gt;
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I would also reccommend looking into less competitive programs, perhaps in geographical areas you&apos;ve always wanted to live.&lt;br&gt;
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Doohickie&apos;s suggestion is good, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:23:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smeater44</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology#744129</link>	
		<description>Speaking from experience, yes, it&apos;s easier to go back the second (or third) time around.  You&apos;re more mature now and understand that slacking off is just a huge waste of money.  I too slacked off like crazy my freshman year of college and flunked out.  I was/am a smart kid too.  I was just lured into the social aspect of college way more so than the whole &quot;go to class&quot; part.  I think a lot of colleges understand this as it happens all the time.  The only thing to do is start applying and you&apos;ll find out who will take you back.  In my case, the second time around I applied at the local public university just to get a good track record going so I could prove a 4.0 was something I could do.  Once I established that, I applied to harder schools as a transfer student.  It can be done.  Just prove to them you can do it.  You&apos;ve obviously got the brain as your SATs and ACTs show.  &lt;br&gt;
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Go online, find the universities you want, and request applications.  Get on the phone.  If you really want to do this get going.  Oh and you don&apos;t need to know what you want to do yet.  Hell, I still don&apos;t.  Major in something you know you like.  But the first two years are just repeats of classes you already took in HS.&lt;br&gt;
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Should you do this?  Yes.  Even if only for your own personal satisfaction, as is my case.  I merely want to prove to myself that a bachelors degree is something I can handle, because I know I can.  Since you&apos;re already a busy guy, just go part time.  Take the 8 year track.  Two or three classes a semester.  You can still keep doing what you&apos;re doing.  &lt;br&gt;
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A degree is a good thing to have.  I&apos;m of the mind that you don&apos;t *really* need college to succeed, but to have as a fallback if you don&apos;t make it in the areas you want to is probably the best thing you can do for yourself.  &lt;br&gt;
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And as for the things you&apos;ve learned since then.  Surprisingly, some schools will give you credits for other things you&apos;ve done.  I took some writing classes at Second City and found out I could get credits for that at school.  If you know some languages, you can probably test right out of having to take any of those classes too.  &lt;br&gt;
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Good luck.  And just do it.  And oh yah, the contacts you make alone may be worth all the tuition you&apos;ll fork out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:32:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: M.C. Lo-Carb!</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology#744160</link>	
		<description>After college-hopping (read: &apos;finding myself&apos;) for 4 years after high school (started at a small private college, transferred to a state university, eventually landed at a community college) I dropped out with a shitty GPA and substantial college loan debt.&lt;br&gt;
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Over the next five years, I moved accross the country, obtained a job managing a well-known copy chain, and paid off most of my loans.&lt;br&gt;
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In 98, I decided to return to school. The local state university had no problem accepting me, but most of my previous credits were lost, as I had more than a few Cs and Ds. Basically, I started over again as a 27-year-old freshman. I got my bachelor&apos;s degree at 30. For someone like me, who needed a bit more time to mature after high school, this was the best decision I ever made. I had a whole new perspective on college, and did very well. I sought contacts and internships in my field of interest, and now work in that field (journalism, btw). I also kept working the whole time, lived on the cheap (though an all-ramen diet doesn&apos;t work as well in one&apos;s late 20s as it would in one&apos;s late teens!) and paid for most of it in cash. It can be done.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:58:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: petethered</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology#744199</link>	
		<description>In some ways, I&apos;m doing what your asking about right now.  &lt;br&gt;
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I went to college for a year, got a job and left ;) &lt;br&gt;
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I went to the local community college and banged out a quick associates degree.  The 4.0 was nice and every school I applied to as a transfer student accepted me.&lt;br&gt;
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One thing I would be careful about though.  If you have some target schools to finish up your degree in mind, check their transfer requirements first.  2 schools I was interested in were out of my reach unless I took another semesters load after getting the Associates.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:28:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: whatzit</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology#744273</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;just screwed around for a few years because I just didn&apos;t know what I wanted to do&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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You&apos;re joking about this part, right?  Even if this is what you did, it&apos;s not what you tell them, duh.  You have to have a story, I mean, narrative, about why you were lured away and did what you did, and why coming back to school (their school, their program) is the right thing to do now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:35:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LarryC</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/48953/Now-thats-what-I-call-Marine-Biology#744396</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt; you may find that you need a better track record in a community college to erase your inattention to classes the first time around.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Yes.  I partied and flunked out of college at 19, went back to a community college about 5 years later, and took my 4.0 from there plus some strong letters of recommendation and was accepted as a transfer student at the University of Chicago. They even gave me a full ride.  I went on to grad school and today I am a professor.&lt;br&gt;
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I think that with you life experiences and a few semesters of good grades at a community college, you will be a strong transfer candidate at an excellent school.  Go for it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:19:55 -0800</pubDate>
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