Comments on: Note numbers on a staff

Question: Note numbers on a staff

scazza — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:22:24 -0800

I'm trying to find an image of note numbers with the corresponding notes on a staff.

I should be able to find this. This is a common image. It's all over my ENT's office. I can find an image of all the MIDI frequencies, with the numbers on a keyboard but not on a staff.

Thanks everyone.

By: Goofyy

Goofyy — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:17:49 -0800

Can't you, like, just draw one up, quick and easy? I assume by 'note numbers' you mean C-Major.

By: effigy

effigy — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:22:18 -0800

like this?

By: Goofyy

Goofyy — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:35:06 -0800

Effigy: I thought those were names, not numbers. But I've not read any theory in ages. To me, numbers are like 1 = Middle C and 3 = E, etc (assuming key of C major).

By: mendel

mendel — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:55:36 -0800

I've never heard of a uniform way to give notes numbers on a staff, and I've got half a B.Mus. Musicians don't talk about notes that way. The only numbering is relative to a key -- the tonic is I, the dominant is V, and so on. But an ENT wouldn't care about harmony.

I don't have half a medical degree, though, so maybe there's something ENT-specific about some absolute numbering of notes.

By: ludwig_van

ludwig_van — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:17:33 -0800

maybe there's something ENT-specific about some absolute numbering of notes.

The only way I can think of would be the frequencies that correspond to each note, like this.

By: ob

ob — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:13:48 -0800

I can't imagine that you're talking about set theory, so I'm confused too.

By: Khalad

Khalad — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:11:42 -0800

I'm guessing the OP means numbers/names like "C3" and "F#4". You know, note name + octave.

By: nebulawindphone

nebulawindphone — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:43:22 -0800

From the image the OP posted, it looks like he either wants frequencies (e.g. middle A = 440) or MIDI note numbers (e.g. middle A = 69).

I can't imagine why MIDI note numbers would be useful to an ear doctor, though. They're used for sending signals to electronic music devices, but not for much else. So I'm guessing he wants frequencies in Hz.

By: mendel

mendel — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:55:48 -0800

I'm pretty sure the image was just an example, because later on she says "1 = Middle C and 3 = E". But I'm sure she'll come back and tell us soon, I hope.

By: ludwig_van

ludwig_van — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:44:21 -0800

I'm pretty sure the image was just an example, because later on she says "1 = Middle C and 3 = E".

That wasn't the OP.

By: Wet Spot

Wet Spot — Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:13:14 -0800

Is this what you want?

By: mendel

mendel — Fri, 13 Oct 2006 06:50:03 -0800

That wasn't the OP.

Oh. So it wasn't. Carry on!

By: scazza

scazza — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:19:26 -0800

Wet Spot is closest. Sorry to confuse you all, it's a common and simple image, not as complex as you all are looking for. Khalad is right in explaining to you what I mean by "note numbers."

Goofyy, yes I can, but then it wouldn't be an image. Something pliable, sendable, printable. Maybe with color.

Musicians don't talk about notes that way.
Thanks, but I am a musician. I don't think that generalizations are the best idea. ENT's that deal with musicians would definitely care about harmony, hence all the music images in their office.

Thanks anyway for the interest everyone!

By: mendel

mendel — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:31:12 -0800

Thanks, but I am a musician. I don't think that generalizations are the best idea.

Yes, I confused you and the person that wanted "C=1, E=3 etc", but I said that before you followed up, so I'm not sure what the benefit to slagging me more about it is. I'm sure not going to look for your poster now, though!

By: scazza

scazza — Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:05:05 -0800

mendel, it wasn't meant with any malice, I just honestly don't think assumptions are the best idea. And you are of course free to look for whatever you want.

More information on note numbers, or Scientific Pitch Notation. That link again has the only image I've been able to find if you scroll down. The image I'm looking for just has the bass clef and the treble clef staffs, quarter notes maybe going from C2-E6 on the staff, and in a line at the top of the image the corresponding note-octave notation.

I'll post any information I find, if I find it.