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		<title>Question: Good information about plague doctor attire?</title>
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		<description>I want to make a plague doctor costume for Halloween, and I want it to be as accurate as possible. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; One of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_doctor&quot;&gt;these guys.&lt;/a&gt;  I think they&apos;re fantastically creepy, and really want to skulk around in that beaked mask and black robe.&lt;br&gt;
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But I want it to be historically correct, and although the plague doctor image seems pretty widespread, I&apos;m having trouble finding sources that describe in much detail (or provide any sort of citation) for the materials and methods used to make them.  I&apos;m not even sure the exact time periods and areas where the costumes were worn.  There were recurrent epidemics throughout Europe from the initial 1347-48 outbreak up to the plague of Marseilles in 1720, which is a pretty wide window.  I&apos;ve heard that the costume arose later on during the plague centuries, but I&apos;m not exactly sure when and where.&lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;d like to know more about the costumes-- dates, places, variations, materials, methods of construction.  Tell me what you know, or feel free to point me to a book that has more information, I can try and track it down.  Also, if anybody has any tips or ideas for how best to go about making it, I would love that, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 15:27:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: puddinghead</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718436</link>	
		<description>I found a few references by Googling - Venice, doctor, plague.  Venice had a hell of a bout of plague, and I&apos;ve seen the masks available for Carnivale.  I suspect that they&apos;re made of paper mache like the other Carnivale masks.</description>
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		<title>By: posadnitsa</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718442</link>	
		<description>The picture seems to date from &lt;a href=&quot;http://art-bin.com/art/medhistorypix/omedicalimages19.html&quot;&gt;1656&lt;/a&gt;. Apparently one of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldartswest.org/plm/guide/locator/italian.shtml&quot;&gt;Commedia dell&apos;Arte&lt;/a&gt; characters (unsurprisingly &quot;Il Dottore&quot;) wears clothes that are based on doctors&apos; clothes of the period. That might be a good place to start looking, since I assume there&apos;s plenty of Commedia dell&apos;Arte costuming information &lt;i&gt;somewhere&lt;/i&gt;. That would cover the robes, if not the masks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:20:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blind.wombat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718457</link>	
		<description>Maybe you can try contacting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amasquerade.com/index.htm&quot;&gt;these folks&lt;/a&gt; about sources.  They sell a couple of plague doctor masks, and might let you in on how they do it.  &lt;br&gt;
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If you are searching on that site, look for &quot;Dottore Peste&quot; and &quot;Naso&quot; masks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:54:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dog food sugar</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718507</link>	
		<description>What an excellent idea for Halloween!!! I love the plague doctor get up! &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.exn.ca/Stories/1998/06/17/51.asp&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s a link that describes the different things they wore for protection&lt;/a&gt;. Hopefully it might help you in your research. &lt;br&gt;
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Here&apos;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.masqueradevenetianmasks.com/noses.htm&quot;&gt;plague doc mask&lt;/a&gt; for sale in the UK. Searching Google images for plague doctor might lead you to other masks for sale.&lt;br&gt;
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Have a great time Dr. 17th Century Creepy!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:55:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bookish</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718509</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not sure about the Venetian carnival-style masks and outfits.  They&apos;re definately based on the folk figure of the plague doctor, but they seem to be more stylized and playful interpretations.  &lt;br&gt;
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The masks seem to be made out of paper mache, which I&apos;ve thought about using to make my own mask.  However, I don&apos;t think the original doctor&apos;s masks would have been made out of paper mache, which bothers me because I&apos;m a neurotic geek.&lt;br&gt;
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So the question is, how close to the real doctors are the carnival doctors?&lt;br&gt;
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The image date is good, posadnitsa.  I noticed that the picture is labeled as &apos;after J Columbina,&apos; so I wonder how much the original predates this one.  I can&apos;t find it through google.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:56:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jasper McLean</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718514</link>	
		<description>Side question: are there any movies set during that time?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:01:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kronoss</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718598</link>	
		<description>In &lt;em&gt;Restoration&lt;/em&gt;, Robert Downey Jr. plays a doctor who treats people during the plague in London, mask and all. It&apos;s a good movie, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:28:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squeak</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718705</link>	
		<description>They didn&apos;t wear a mask but a hood which IIRC was made from waxed cloth (leather might have been another option but fabric would be easier to work with). The beak was stuffed with strong smelling herbs and it would have gathered at the neck. I&apos;m pretty sure they wore amulets and eye of newt, toe of frog and other interesting things to ward off the plague as well.&lt;br&gt;
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You could try searches for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.springfield.k12.il.us/schools/Springfield/eliz/elizabethanmedicine.html&quot; title=&quot;at the bottom of the page there are some more ideas on how to find what your looking for&quot;&gt;Elizabethan Doctors&lt;/a&gt; during &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.william-shakespeare.info/bubonic-black-plague-elizabethan-era.htm&quot; title=&quot;Near the bottom of the page&quot;&gt;Shakespeare&apos;s &lt;/a&gt;time, also might want to try searching the digital archives at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://library.wellcome.ac.uk/&quot;&gt;Wellcome Trust&lt;/a&gt; if you haven&apos;t already.&lt;br&gt;
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Though, I would approach the problem differently. Since it seems to be next to impossible to find anything on how the mask was made I&apos;d research common materials and techniques used during that time - which would be far easier to gather &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.costumes.org/HISTORY/100pages/16thlinks.htm&quot; title=&quot;just one example outta many&quot;&gt;information&lt;/a&gt; on. &lt;br&gt;
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If you ever do find out how it&apos;s done, I&apos;d love to know as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:59:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: squeak</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#718708</link>	
		<description>Forgot to add: find out who did the famous woodcut of the plague doctor (or the author of the book), the date of the book and which country it originated from and then use that information to do research on millinery from that area/era to come up with techniques and materials.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:03:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Iridic</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/47173/Good-information-about-plague-doctor-attire#719017</link>	
		<description>I would find out more about that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Medico_peste.jpg&quot;&gt;reproduction costume &lt;/a&gt;depicted in the article; it looks pretty accurate to me.  The photo info says that the picture was taken in &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena&quot;&gt;Jena&lt;/a&gt;, a town in central Germany.  The costume might be an exhibit at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phyletisches-museum.uni-jena.de/&quot;&gt;Phyletisches Museum&lt;/a&gt;, Jena&apos;s biological museum.  (Another candidate is Jena&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Museum_Jena&quot;&gt;optical museum,&lt;/a&gt; which would perhaps display the crystal-lensed equipment as an early example of medical headgear).  &lt;br&gt;
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If you have a friend who speaks German, ask them to e-mail the museums&apos; curators and inquire after the costume; you might be able to get a lot of practical, historically grounded info about how to build one of these getups yourself.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:01:25 -0800</pubDate>
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