Comments on: Remote access to an XP box

Question: Remote access to an XP box

|n$eCur3 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:20:47 -0800

I will be leaving an XP laptop at my friend's house to seed some torrents with Azureus on a fast (10mbps up/down) connection. How do I get access to the laptop from my home computer (so that I might add/delete torrents or tweak settings)? Having remote access to his router might be nice too so that I can open ports if something comes up...

He has agreed to this, on the condition that he does not ever have to touch my laptop or his router after the inital setup. He has a dynamic IP, which changes only about once per month. He has a basic old Linksys router that does some basic port forwarding, but nothing too complex.

What else do I need to know to get this working?

By: |n$eCur3

|n$eCur3 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:23:47 -0800

I should add that I am also behind a router.

By: utsutsu

utsutsu — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:27:39 -0800

XP's remote desktop should accomplish this, the ports will have to be forwarded to the laptop on his router, but after the setup you shouldnt need to mess with it.

He could also sign up for something like a hopto url because of the changing IP

By: utsutsu

utsutsu — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:28:48 -0800

Not sure what happened there, but imagine that in the above post remote desktop looks like it does here.

By: Joh

Joh — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:34:47 -0800

GoToMyPC offers something that would work for this. It should allow you to configure the router, if his router can be accessed through html. they charge a monthly fee, but you can just cancel it after the first month. I used them for a few months and it worked very well.

By: |n$eCur3

|n$eCur3 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:43:17 -0800

Also, how safe is this, relatively speaking. Am I putting my friend at risk? Are there known security holes with remote desktop?

By: gergtreble

gergtreble — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:47:09 -0800

Ive used logme.com for this before. However their free sevice tended to be a bit hit and miss. They do have a premium service though. Im just a cheapskate.

By: chrisamiller

chrisamiller — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:47:26 -0800

A NoIP/TightVNC is the best solution, IMO.

1) Install TightVNC on the laptop, and set the VNC server to start on boot. Be sure to set the router to forward port 5800 to your laptop.

2) Set up a free account with No-IP. Choose a name you can remember, like yourname.myvnc.com. Download their IP updater and leave it running on the laptop. It polls every 30 minutes or so and updates the DNS entry so that even if his IP changes, things will get updated and yourname.myvnc.com will still point to your laptop.

3) Now, you can connect to your laptop using any web browser (as long as java is installed on the system). Just point your browser to http://yourname.myvnc.com:5800/ and enter your password.

I've set several computers (including my grandmother's) up like this, so that I can access them easily to do maintenance, even when I'm 1000 miles away.

By: chrisamiller

chrisamiller — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:57:10 -0800

Forgot to mention - also set the NO-IP updater to run on startup. That way, even if your friend's power goes out, he'll just have to turn the laptop on and you'll be good to go again.

By: junesix

junesix — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:17:26 -0800

BTW Azureus has a web interface plugin built on Swing. You can't configure settings but you can add, delete, check progress of torrents. When I used to use Azureus, I'd check the progress of torrents during the day and add more files as the queue emptied.

By: sublivious

sublivious — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:41:47 -0800

I've used both logmein and the dynamic IP / VNC solution. Logmein is much simpler but if you plan on controlling the laptop from work, Logmein may get blocked. I think VNC (at least the flavor I use - UltraVNC) needs to use 2 ports for the web browser interface. I use port 80 (http) and port 443 (http over SSL). Not likely that your work would block those two ports.

(and I haven't had the problems with Logmein that gergtreble mentioned)

By: flabdablet

flabdablet — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:42:45 -0800

For my money: Remote Desktop, or VNC as you please, running over Hamachi. No port forwarding required, and as long as nobody but you knows the Hamachi password, secure.

By: gergtreble

gergtreble — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:54:15 -0800

sublivious, only problems 've had where dropped connections and failures to connect. It ususaly reconected first time, but was a total pain in the ass when it did it. Im pretty sure their pay sevice would not do this though.

By: muddylemon

muddylemon — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:00:49 -0800

I like LogMeIn better than Go2MyPc - it's free and you don't have to worry about dynamic dns or etc.

I use it almost every day and have never had any problems.

By: gregschoen

gregschoen — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:07:40 -0800

I'll put another vote down for Hamachi and Remote Desktop, when I had my server running, that's how I would log into it.

By: teki

teki — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:00:57 -0800

Careful, you can't Remote Desktop into XP Home edition.

By: |n$eCur3

|n$eCur3 — Sat, 02 Sep 2006 02:00:30 -0800

For the sake of posterity, the following is what I currently have working, and what I did to accompish it:

Server Computer (laptop):
Installed 4 programs
1. TightVNC server
2. No-IP DUC
3. Hamachi
4. utorrent (decided to go with a lighter torrent client)
Each of these programs is free, although to use No-IP it was required to sign up for an account (ie time to use a fake address and phone number). I named my account mylaptop and was given the name mylaptop.no-ip.info. Each of these 4 programs can be set to run at startup so that if the power goes out and my laptop battery runs out, I only have to bug my friend to push the on button.

Client Computer (home computer):
Installed 1 program
1. Hamachi

Router:
Make sure it can assign static IPs and forward ports.
Set up a static IP for my laptop, ie, 192.168.3.100.
Forward port 5800 to 192.168.3.100.
Forward the torrent port to the laptop (optional).

To connect:
So, if I want to control the laptop mouse movements remotely and see the monitor, I load up my browser and type, http://mylaptopname.no-ip.info:5800. Also, if you want, you may install the tightvnc client, but the browser applet works just fine for me.

If I want to transfer files to the laptop, I open up hamachi and right click > browse and copy things over.

Thanks for all of your help! If I'm leaving anything out, feel free to ask, or email's in the profile.

By: flabdablet

flabdablet — Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:54:00 -0800

I don't understand why the laptop needs a no-ip.info address or why you need to forward a port on its router. Seems to me you should be able to do the remote control stuff over Hamachi as well, just by connecting your local PC to the same Hamachi VPN as the laptop and browsing to http://5.x.x.x:5800.