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	<title>Comments on: Grad School Language Requirement Proficiency?  What is involved in demonstrating proficiency?</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:57:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Grad School Language Requirement Proficiency?  What is involved in demonstrating proficiency?</title>
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		<description>Grad School Foreign Language Requirements:  What demonstrates proficiency at the grad school level?  Are there media studies, cultural studies, critical film studies, or similar masters programs without them? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; (question asked for a friend)&lt;br&gt;
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My friend had enough years of High School French to &apos;place&apos; out of the language requirement for our college, so he doesn&apos;t have any language classes on his transcript.  He is, however, much better than me at the mechanics of the language and I completed through the 202-level college courses.&lt;br&gt;
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Location should be limited to American and Canadian post-graduate programs (Masters) relating to cultural studies.  He hasn&apos;t narrowed down a field of interest, but has a BA in American Studies and is interested in masters programs that would be accessable with that background.&lt;br&gt;
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So what does &quot;proficiency&quot; mean for his situation?  And are there programs that don&apos;t require foreign language proficiency?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:44:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LarryC</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45492/Grad-School-Language-Requirement-Proficiency-What-is-involved-in-demonstrating-proficiency#695410</link>	
		<description>I can only answer for history, where proficiency means the ability to conduct research in documents in a foreign language.  This is demonstrated by translating, with a dictionary, X words in Y minutes.  Speaking ability is not part of the test, just reading comprehension.</description>
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		<title>By: cobaltnine</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45492/Grad-School-Language-Requirement-Proficiency-What-is-involved-in-demonstrating-proficiency#695413</link>	
		<description>At my anthropology MA program (University of [US State]), the language requirement was only for PhD students.  It was a written translation of a written, non-fiction piece, usually in one&apos;s field if possible, with a time limit (three hours? I can&apos;t recall.)  The trick was learning which language professor was going to be doing your test for you - some of them let you have dictionaries, some didn&apos;t.   Some schools have a verbal component to living languages.  &lt;br&gt;
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You may very well find an MA program without language requirements, but not a PhD program.   I think for historical fields, you don&apos;t need to speak it, but if you&apos;re going to be dealing with living people, you need to be able to hold a conversation in it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:59:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BackwardsCity</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45492/Grad-School-Language-Requirement-Proficiency-What-is-involved-in-demonstrating-proficiency#695421</link>	
		<description>You may find that the requirements at many of the schools your friend is looking at are in name only. I&apos;m starting in literature at a very cultural-studies-friendly program and the language requirement is essentially on the honor system.&lt;br&gt;
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(It&apos;s expected that you will have competence, especially reading competence, in two foreign languages, particularly if you&apos;re doing extensive work in the literature or theory of that langauge -- but there isn&apos;t any competency test.)&lt;br&gt;
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In any event, it sounds like your friend exceeds the basic requirement for French, though if he wants to do work with French documents or French speakers he&apos;ll probably need to brush up on it during the school year or during the summers.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:08:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blue_beetle</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45492/Grad-School-Language-Requirement-Proficiency-What-is-involved-in-demonstrating-proficiency#695422</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/clep/ex_foreign.html&quot;&gt;CLEP exams?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:09:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: k8t</title>
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		<description>I&apos;d venture a guess that they want a few years of college language taken.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:34:37 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scody</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45492/Grad-School-Language-Requirement-Proficiency-What-is-involved-in-demonstrating-proficiency#695439</link>	
		<description>I did an M.A. in American Studies (University of Iowa) that had no foreign language proficiency requirement.  A number of related communications/cultural studies programs I applied to also didn&apos;t have a foreign language requirement, or if they did they were merely to show that I&apos;d taken classes in a language -- there was no requirement to demonstrate proficiency.  Programs that are heavier on critical theory might want to see that you can read/research in French.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:38:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sixacross</title>
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		<description>At my university, you take a three week intensive seminar on the language, then take a translation exam a couple paragraphs long. Open dictionary, decent amount of time. It&apos;s really not that bad. Your friend sounds like he would do fine here, at least.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:26:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cowbellemoo</title>
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		<description>My friend says to tell you thanks!&lt;br&gt;
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(Thanks!)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:10:47 -0800</pubDate>
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