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	<title>Comments on: And I Can't Find My Way Home...</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:51:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: And I Can&apos;t Find My Way Home...</title>
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		<description>How much should I spend on a GPS? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Want to use it to learn geocaching with my 12-year-old son. Also, to help me find my way around the woods of New England. I see units as low as $120. What would I give up by spending this little? Would it be able to reliably see through typical New England foliage? Not planning on needing it as a survival tool.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:42:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ZenMasterThis</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689581</link>	
		<description>Even though I&apos;m an engineer by training, I&apos;m not a super gadget-head and tend to take a very utilitarian/pragmatic view of techie tools.</description>
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		<title>By: trevyn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689583</link>	
		<description>You can get the Garmin eTrex for less than $90.&lt;br&gt;
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Absolutely all you need for Geocaching is to be able to enter coordinates as a waypoint and then get an arrow pointing towards that waypoint, which is very basic GPS functionality. With a cheap unit, you&apos;re giving up all the features that have no Geocaching utility, like massive waypoint memory, detailed maps, street routing, etc.&lt;br&gt;
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You probably also won&apos;t end up with a SiRFstar III unit if you go super-cheap, and that can help with accuracy in reduced signal conditions. That said, any unit will still be reasonably competent under foliage, and a lot of the fun of Geocaching is finding the cache once you&apos;re in the right general area; being led to the pinpoint location kind of defeats the purpose, actually.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:52:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smackfu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689585</link>	
		<description>The low-end units don&apos;t have maps built-in.  That doesn&apos;t matter much for geocaching or hiking.  Also, they might not have a data connection, so you can&apos;t view your tracks on a computer. (And if you do want the data, go for a unit with USB rather than serial.)&lt;br&gt;
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Personally, I own a Garmin Geko 201.  It is a pretty good unit, but I am not particularly impressed with its performance under tree cover here in CT.  It will usually get a position given enough time, maybe a minute or two, but it can&apos;t maintain an accurate track while you&apos;re moving.  Just has random points with gaps in between.  So I probably wouldn&apos;t suggest this unit (or its smaller brother the 101).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:55:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: X4ster</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689602</link>	
		<description>Garmin eTrex series offers several options. Spending a little more will get you an instrument with better satellite receiver and higher quality display. After using both Magellan and Garmin I find the Garmin much easier to use. &lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t know about your tree canopy density in New England but here on the West Coast even in the California redwoods with a small opening through the trees I have been able to access enough satellites to get a good Lat/Lon reading.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:22:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mph</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689621</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ve got a Garmin eTrex Vista that I picked up refurbished online.  It has been more than adequate for geocaching, and its built-in highway/major road map is good for supplemental navigation on bike and for roadtrips.  Prior to that, I had the next model down in the eTrek series, a Venture, and it was also great for geocaching.&lt;br&gt;
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In terms of reception, both were generally good in most conditions out here, hiking around Mt. Hood and some of the trails on the coast. &lt;br&gt;
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Both also do data transfer, so it&apos;s easy to download gpx files from sites like geocaching.com  and upload them into the unit.  If you plan to do a lot of geocaching, you&apos;ll want to be able to transfer data that way.  Keying in coordinates is a pain. &lt;br&gt;
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Whatever you buy, you&apos;ll probably want some supplemental software to manage it.  I really liked the stuff &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.topografix.com/default.asp&quot;&gt;TopoGrafix&lt;/a&gt; made when I was a Windows user.   EasyGPS is good for basic waypoint management, ExpertGPS offers easy downloads of public domain topo maps and aerial photography.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:43:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Skorgu</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689785</link>	
		<description>You can probably get a Garmin Rino for around $100, that has a pretty darn good GPS unit as well as being an FRS and GMRS radio. &lt;br&gt;
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If you get more of them they can plot the position of other units on the map, which makes them incredibly useful. &lt;br&gt;
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I can personally vouch for their build quality too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:34:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adrianhon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689929</link>	
		<description>Generally speaking, the cheaper ~$100 GPS units should do you fine. The new SirfSTAR III chipset really does rock the house in terms of quick lock-on times and better signal and accuracy in &apos;troublesome&apos; areas (e.g. under foliage), but then again, people did survive without it until recently.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:05:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: busboy789</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#689974</link>	
		<description>I have cached with an etrex and currently use a Garmin gpsmap 60c.  The etrex was ok and served to get me into caching.  I seem to get a better signal and be able to keep it longer in the woods with the 60c.  &lt;br&gt;
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Either way, I second being sure that you are able to use a data cable to download the coordinates.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:52:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: -harlequin-</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/45064/And-I-Cant-Find-My-Way-Home#691262</link>	
		<description>If you want to spend even less, you can also geocache by using just a map and a compass. Or use photographic maps like what google offers to make it even easier ;-)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:04:13 -0800</pubDate>
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