Comments on: Bringing laptop battery back from the dead

Question: Bringing laptop battery back from the dead

jclovebrew — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:10:58 -0800

Can I recondition a dead laptop battery?

I have an old Thinkpad X20. It was sitting around unused for a very long time and now the battery will not hold a charge at all. It has to be plugged in for the laptop to work. I heard that this happens to laptop batteries after long periods of non-use.

Is there anything I could try that might revive the battery?

By: BackwardsCity

BackwardsCity — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:20:06 -0800

I think you need to get a new one.

By: kcm

kcm — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:21:13 -0800

Laptop batteries die. The X20 must be a good 4-5 years old by now IIRC, so, just get a new one.

By: majick

majick — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:26:03 -0800

No, there really isn't anything that will revive the battery. You could run it through many, many charge-discharge cycles and perhaps scrape a minute or so out of it, but it's basically a dead battery.

By: jtfowl0

jtfowl0 — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:47:14 -0800

You could try this, but it would probably be more cost effective to buy a new battery.

By: underwater

underwater — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:41:57 -0800

I haven't tried them, but you might look at these guys.

By: -harlequin-

-harlequin- — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:27:21 -0800

If it's REALLY old, it might be NiCd or NiMH, in which case you could crudely replace the cells pretty cheaply. But it's most likely Li-Ion, in which case, it might make an interesting project, but the time/money costs would mean you wouldn't be saving anything.

Li-Ion cells degrade by oxidation over the years. They still store plenty of power, but they can only supply it in a slow trickle (too small to run the computer) due to the increased internal resistance from the oxidation. So in a sense, the battery is probably still useful, but not for a computer, it will probably power something with much lower drain nicely (like a flashlight). As to reconditioning it to reverse the oxidation, I have no idea if that's possible, but I imagine any process that could do it would probably involve the destruction of the cell :)

By: eriko

eriko — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:15:02 -0800

I imagine any process that could do it would probably involve the destruction of the cell

And your house.

Lithium Ion batteries have a failure mode we call "Halt and Catch Fire." Don't screw with them if you don't know what you're doing. Lithium is a rather reactive metal -- it's not Sodium or Cesium, but it's the same group -- and futzing around with it is likely to result in bad things.

Lithium Ion batteries have amazing energy density, and lousy shelf life. They lose about 20% of their current capacity every year, from the moment they're made. Heat accelerates this.

So, new battery time.