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	<title>Comments on: Many shades of grey</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:15:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Many shades of grey</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey</link>	
		<description>How do I keep my blacks black? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; For my work I have to wear a lot of black clothing.  I find that the color fades quickly- often with just a couple washings.  Is there anything I can do to retain the color longer?  As a side note, I rarely dryclean, just use my washer and hang to dry.  The fading happens to dry-clean-only clothes and regular clothes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:04:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>purplefiber</dc:creator>
		
			<category>fade</category>
		
			<category>clothes</category>
		
			<category>black</category>
		
			<category>color</category>
		
			<category>laundry</category>
		
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		<title>By: b1tr0t</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610873</link>	
		<description>You  may want to try drycleaning. Alternately, use a DIY kit like dryel, if you don&apos;t have a cheap and fast laundry nearby.&lt;br&gt;
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Almost all of my black clothing is dryclean only, I always dryclean, and it never fades.&lt;br&gt;
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Also, the old college trick of not washing &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; time you wear clothes can save a few pennys here and there.</description>
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		<title>By: AmbroseChapel</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610879</link>	
		<description>There are washing additives for keeping black clothes black just as there are for keeping whites white.&lt;br&gt;
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Although not necessarily where you live.&lt;br&gt;
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If you google for &quot;persil black velvet&quot; you&apos;ll find links from the UK and Ireland. It seems to be a rather experimental new product though.&lt;br&gt;
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If all else fails maybe someone can send you some in the mail?&lt;br&gt;
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But lots of other sites have tips on things like washing in vinegar before you wash black clothes the first time and so on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:20:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fireflies to stars</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610885</link>	
		<description>Also, &lt;br&gt;
1) sometimes just buying &lt;i&gt;cheap&lt;/i&gt; black clothing is worthwhile if you go through it quickly.  (like from Ross, perhaps)    &lt;br&gt;
2) synthetic materials stay blacker longer than cotton.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:24:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fireflies to stars</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: IvyMike</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610893</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cheer.com/cheer_dark.shtml&quot;&gt;Cheer dark?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:31:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>IvyMike</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: j-dawg</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610897</link>	
		<description>I wash all blacks in cold water with Woolite dark, and dry them on gentle. I actually get pretty terrific results. Even some of my cheap Target blacks have stayed nice and dark through months of regular washing. I&apos;ve kept better clothing respectably dark for a couple years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:41:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CunningLinguist</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610899</link>	
		<description>Wash in cold water always and dry on the lowest setting.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:44:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CunningLinguist</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: furtive</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610901</link>	
		<description>Avoid ironing them if at all possible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:49:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: theora55</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610905</link>	
		<description>Cold water &amp;amp; Cheer dark.  Apparently, it has something in it that neutralizes the chlorine in water.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:57:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fireflies to stars</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610906</link>	
		<description>oh, and I also wash all my blacks together in cold water.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:58:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fireflies to stars</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: neda</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610908</link>	
		<description>Don&apos;t overstuff your washer--do smallish loads of laundry for your nicer darks.  Also, turn your clothes inside-out before you wash &apos;em.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:58:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>neda</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: purplefiber</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610910</link>	
		<description>Great answers- thanks folks.  Funny- I made a trip to Ross this afternoon for the express purpose of buying more black clothes (great minds think alike, LS).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:59:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steven C. Den Beste</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610915</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re hanging your clothes outside to dry, that&apos;s probably your problem. Ultraviolet from the sun causes most synthetic dyes to fade, and it can be quite rapid. (And there&apos;s a lot of ultraviolet even on cloudy days.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:05:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven C. Den Beste</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: aneel</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610917</link>	
		<description>The woman who used to run the wash &amp;amp; fold place near me recommended turning black jeans inside out before washing. Since that laundromat closed and I started using another one, some of my blacker jeans have become noticeably greyer. May just be coincidence, but I&apos;m going to start turning my own jeans inside out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:06:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610925</link>	
		<description>Hoo boy, can&apos;t anyone dig up the previous thread that had all the same answers?&lt;br&gt;
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Well, anyway, let me point out again that cleaners were originally known as cleaners &amp;amp; dyers because clothes were progressively dyed darker rather than cleaned.&lt;br&gt;
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If you keep your blacks separate, you could re-dye them in your washing machine with rit dyes or such.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:12:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kcm</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#610938</link>	
		<description>To be honest, cheap clothes won&apos;t last nearly as long as quality stuff.  Jeans are a good example - denim from, say, Express will tend to fade and run in just a few washes where a lot of quality denim (that can cost a bit more) won&apos;t.  I wash mine inside out and don&apos;t dry them at all, and I figure this would work for most of your blacks and darks.  The only clothes I do dry are undershirts, workout clothes, and underwear/socks (plus towels and such).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:29:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steven C. Den Beste</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611016</link>	
		<description>Denim is a lousy example, because for the majority of denim wearers, having the color fade is an &lt;i&gt;advantage&lt;/i&gt;. (It looks cooler, or something like that.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:19:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven C. Den Beste</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sperose</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611024</link>	
		<description>I dig Woolite for darks and wash everything on cold water.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:38:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: defreckled</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611030</link>	
		<description>Once or twice a year, I re-dye all of my black, washable clothes black again.  The clothes are already black to begin with so I ignore the manufactures recommended weight to dye ratio and fill the washer as though I was doing a normal load.  Everything comes out looking revitalized because the small gray hairy/furry bits are black again.  Also, this works best on solid black clothing rather than something like black jeans with color gradations.  &lt;br&gt;
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I find this to be enormously satisfying.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:49:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr Stickfigure</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611095</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/34390&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:28:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mr Stickfigure</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pollystark</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611112</link>	
		<description>Yep, turn your clothes inside out before washing them (and check they are still inside out when drying them).  This helps preserve colour quite a bit.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:59:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CunningLinguist</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611122</link>	
		<description>defreckled, I am so trying that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 04:20:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CunningLinguist</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611158</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Can I just say I was astonished on visiting your user page to discover you&apos;re in San Francisco?  I just assumed anyone who has to wear a lot of black clothing for work lives in NYC.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:57:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joeclark</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#611159</link>	
		<description>&lt;cite&gt;Consumer Reports&lt;/cite&gt; tested dark laundry detergents and found they worked, but not really any better than regular detergents. It isn&apos;t what those products have but what they don&apos;t &#8211; optical brighteners, which deposit on black clothes and work at cross purposes anyway.&lt;br&gt;
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I seem to recall that the book &lt;cite&gt;Laundry&lt;/cite&gt; scarcely discussed this subject in its 380 or so pages.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:58:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr. Gunn</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/39589/Many-shades-of-grey#613043</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/39589#610908&quot;&gt;neda &lt;/a&gt;- your advice is counter-intuitive.  You&apos;d expect that if dye was leaching from clothing, doing less per load would result in greater dilution of the leached dye, and faster fading.  Is there something I&apos;m missing?  I really would like to know, because I always do full loads of darks, according to my reasoning above.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:18:07 -0800</pubDate>
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