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	<title>Comments on: Online Advertising on the Cheap</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:03:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: Online Advertising on the Cheap</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap</link>	
		<description>A company I work with has designed a rather tasteful/classy (IMHO) adult toys website ... but we don&apos;t have much of a budget left for advertising. Besides MeFi Adwords, of course, what is the best way to get the word out without having much (if any) of a budget? &lt;br&gt;
(Note: Link to the site ommitted out of respect for no-self-linking. However, post a comment if you&apos;d like me to link to it and I will.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; We&apos;re already doing google adwords, but we must not be attracting the right demographic, because we&apos;ve had 8,000 click throughs and no sales from a google refer... any other ideas?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:36:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SpecialK</dc:creator>
		
			<category>adult</category>
		
			<category>toys</category>
		
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93766</link>	
		<description>--press releases to all sorts of places, online and off&lt;br&gt;
--a contest?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:03:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rschram</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93770</link>	
		<description>You could sell a sex toy that cleverly infringes upon some respected brand&apos;s trademark (e.g. iVibrator, The Colonel&apos;s Love Beads, etc.) and wait to be Slashdotted.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:08:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rschram</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93774</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/3401&quot;&gt;Hold an essay contest&lt;/a&gt; and give away free merchandise, especially to A-list bloggers?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:21:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anastasiav</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gramcracker</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93775</link>	
		<description>Donate something to one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestranger.com/current/savage.html&quot;&gt;Dan Savage&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s next columns, or advertise on &lt;a href=&quot;http://spreadingsantorum.com/index2.html&quot;&gt;Spreading Santorum&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:24:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gramcracker</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: MzB</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93776</link>	
		<description>smart mob? (hmm, maybe not so smart if it falls for this)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:25:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MzB</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mathowie</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93781</link>	
		<description>Send it off to fleshbot, the porn blog?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:43:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mathowie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: majick</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93787</link>	
		<description>Does the client have any offline PR resources you can take advantage of?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 21:09:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>majick</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SpecialK</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93794</link>	
		<description>No offline PR  resources that I know of -- it&apos;s a, uh, mom &amp;amp; pop shop. Quite literally. (Hey, if MY grandparents opened an online porn shop when they retired, I&apos;D think it was cool...) &lt;br&gt;
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Fleshbot said, &quot;No, we&apos;re not going to link to you, but we&apos;ll happily sell you an ad...&quot; ;) Oh well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:10:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SpecialK</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: _sirmissalot_</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93795</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;it&apos;s a, uh, mom &amp;amp; pop shop. Quite literally. (Hey, if MY grandparents opened an online porn shop when they retired, I&apos;D think it was cool...)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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that sounds like a really good story angle.  sounds to me like you could get your local paper interested in a story . . . do you or anyone at your business no anyone at your local paper.  business section or features would be best.  if not, write a clever press release and send it to them (look for the editor&apos;s name for those sections), then call them a couple of days later and invite them over to check out the business.  &lt;br&gt;
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this worked for me when i was trying to drum up interest in a software company me and my friends started.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:20:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>_sirmissalot_</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: _sirmissalot_</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93796</link>	
		<description>er, &quot;know anyone at your local paper?&quot; . . . woops.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:21:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>_sirmissalot_</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anastasiav</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93797</link>	
		<description>I hate to suggest this, but what about getting in contact with Howard Stern.  Gran &amp;amp; Gramp selling sex toys sounds like the perfect story for him....</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:31:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: anildash</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93799</link>	
		<description>I would say to start a blog with &quot;success&quot; stories and people&apos;s experiences with the toys and sex in general. Will draw good repeat traffic and improve your google rank, so searches on your products will turn up higher in people&apos;s searches.&lt;br&gt;
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People like Liberator Shapes (which sells foam blocks designed to help position you for sex) have e-cards with drawings of the shapes in use, which you can send to people, and those actually helped sell more of their products than the ads they had bought, according to their staff who bought ads on the site where I worked about a year ago.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:24:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: madamjujujive</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93801</link>	
		<description>If it&apos;s a classy operation, Good Vibrations might be a good model to study to learn successful marketing techniques. I think they grew from a small shop. They take an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.goodvibes.com/cgi-bin/sgdynamo.exe?CODIV=0102&amp;UID=2003121222402931&amp;HTNAME=educational/index.html&quot;&gt;educational approach&lt;/a&gt; to marketing. They also selectively advertise, build mailing lists etc. &lt;br&gt;
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You might build a blog page as an adjunct to the main site and feature new products, toys and relevant websites. If you did it well, I bet that would get a following and get linked in a way your commercial site might not. Or just add interesting, fun and educational content to your site. Good Vibrations gets &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogdex.net/search.asp?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goodvibes.com%2F&amp;idx=url&quot;&gt;tons of links back&lt;/a&gt; - study and learn why. &lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t see PR in local or mainstream press as being the best avenue to get the cash register to ring. Lots of people pursue PR because they think of it as free -  I think of it as &quot;earned.&quot; It is not as easy to come by (heh) as people think, and but for rare cases, it often has disappointing results in terms of generating immediate sales. The mom &apos;n pop angle might work, but you would need to hit something big to have an impact. Not that it couldn&apos;t happen, but when you go for &quot;big&quot; you have a lot of competition. I&apos;m not saying don&apos;t do it - maintained people who think big often have great results. But don&apos;t pin all your hopes on that. &lt;br&gt;
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I wouldn&apos;t give up on ads. With paid ads, you control the message, the venue and the timing. Maybe instead of trying to make immediate sales on Google, you try to get people to sign up for an educational newsletter that features articles. Or maybe instead of Google, you research and test ads on specific sites or in print publications.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:32:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>madamjujujive</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: headspace</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93848</link>	
		<description>If you have something really novel (like the religious butt plugs,) the sprawling slash fandom might pick up on it, but that&apos;s not exactly a guaranteed way to get eyeballs.  However, hold a short erotica contest (1000 words, f&apos;rinstance) with a couple of good prizes, and we&apos;d probably show up like locusts. Nerve.com regularly gets an influx of new members from fen when they do stuff like that.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:33:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>headspace</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: headspace</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#93849</link>	
		<description>And okay, maybe no one else is curious, but what&apos;s the URL?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2003 07:35:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>headspace</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SpecialK</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/3856/Online-Advertising-on-the-Cheap#94088</link>	
		<description>We had a bug show up today that we&apos;re busy stomping (on the detail pages, images suddenly started stretching for some reason...) but http://www.nicholesin.com (Need it be said? Past splash page, NSFW.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:17:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SpecialK</dc:creator>
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