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	<title>Comments on: AAC with mp3 players</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:46:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: AAC with mp3 players</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players</link>	
		<description>Are there any MP3 players that will play .acc files other than an iPOD, or am I screwed &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I ripped all my CD&apos;s to .aac and now am considering a different player</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:36:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tirebouchon</dc:creator>
		
			<category>ipod</category>
		
			<category>aac</category>
		
			<category>mp3</category>
		
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		<title>By: Good Brain</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570231</link>	
		<description>My understanding is that most phones with music player capabilities support AAC.  Panasonic appearantly has some players with AAC support.&lt;br&gt;
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Honestly, I can&apos;t see being in the digital audio player business without supporting unprotected AAC.  Why make people re-rip their CD collection before they can switch from iPod.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:46:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Good Brain</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: selfnoise</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570232</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/27644#435574&quot;&gt;Look here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:47:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>selfnoise</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: unmake</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570233</link>	
		<description>Some players can be flashed with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rockbox.org/&quot;&gt;Rockbox&lt;/a&gt; firmware to enable support. Philips made some players that supported AAC a few years ago, there weren&apos;t particularly recommended. Related info: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40967&quot;&gt;Why are iPods the only DAPs to support AAC/MP4?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:50:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>unmake</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Squid Voltaire</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570257</link>	
		<description>May this &lt;a href=&quot;http://projects.metafilter.com/votes/291&quot;&gt;project&lt;/a&gt; would help?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:18:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Squid Voltaire</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Squid Voltaire</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570258</link>	
		<description>I guess it would be more useful if I added that that seems to be a MePro that converts AAC to MP3, but only on a Mac. I haven&apos;t tried it (as I don&apos;t have a mac).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:19:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Squid Voltaire</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: idiotfactory</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570300</link>	
		<description>Well, if all else fails, iTunes can convert your aac files to mp3. Select the ones you want to convert and click Advanced&amp;gt;Convert and it will do the rest for you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:08:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>idiotfactory</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: airgirl</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570319</link>	
		<description>And if that fails, burn &apos;em to a CD and reimport them as MP3. Sucks, inconvenient as hell...I finally broke down and bought a frickin&apos; iPod...GAH! Dual technology household.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:29:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>airgirl</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Malor</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570355</link>	
		<description>You really don&apos;t want to convert your AACs to MP3.  Lossy codecs work by throwing away information, and different codecs throw away different things.  When you convert from AAC to MP3 (or, basically, between any two lossy formats), you get all the problems of BOTH codecs, and far fewer of the benefits.  &lt;br&gt;
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Short version: it often sounds like crap if you do that. &lt;br&gt;
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If you ripped with Apple Lossless (which I think also has an .aac extension), you&apos;d be fine converting to MP3... but keep the originals too, since you can regenerate any other format you want if your source is lossless.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:40:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: hades</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570376</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Short version: it often sounds like crap if you do that.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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It may sound like crap if both encodings were done at a low bitrate. But if you&apos;re using a low bitrate in the first place, it may not sound like crap in a way that you&apos;re going to notice. At higher bitrates, the quality loss from a single generation of transcoding is barely noticeable. &lt;br&gt;
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I&apos;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/transcoding&quot;&gt;tested this &lt;/a&gt;for transcoding between mp3 and ogg vorbis; I should do it for AAC, too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:23:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>hades</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ed\26h</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570608</link>	
		<description>Probably not what you&apos;re looking for but any device running Windows Mobile can play .aac.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:18:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ed\26h</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Mwongozi</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570643</link>	
		<description>This isn&apos;t important, but although the format is called AAC, that&apos;s not the file extension. It&apos;s either .mp4, or if you ripped with iTunes, .m4a. Apple Lossless uses .m4a as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:44:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mwongozi</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: matkline</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570764</link>	
		<description>You could look into getting a pocket pc. There&apos;s a piece of free software called BetaPlayer, that plays nearly every format.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:04:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matkline</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: birdsquared</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570901</link>	
		<description>And just to pipe in that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aerodrome.us/aeroplayer/index.html&quot;&gt;Aeroplayer&lt;/a&gt; for the Palm OS also has an AAC codec. I use it on my Clie with a 1 GB memory stick to play my MP3s. OGGs and AACs. Then there is&lt;a href=&quot;http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/about&quot;&gt;TCPMP &lt;/a&gt;as an MPEG1, MP4 video player too  - plus the PDA is a game unit, PIM and English/Japanese/French dictionary, atlas, etc.etc.etc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:48:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>birdsquared</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: unmake</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/36781/AAC-with-mp3-players#570969</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;This isn&apos;t important, but although the format is called AAC, that&apos;s not the file extension.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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.AAC is used for raw, or unwrapped AAC audio; many (most?) encoders will output such files. iTunes wraps them in .M4A containers (.MP4 renamed by Apple), and its market-share has made this the de-facto standard..&lt;br&gt;
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If &lt;b&gt;tirebouchon&lt;/b&gt; really has a bunch of .AAC files, they may have to be &apos;wrapped&apos; in order to be played on some hardware - conversely, if they&apos;re actually M4A files, they may need to be renamed or unwrapped to play on non-ipod devices.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:43:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>unmake</dc:creator>
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