Comments on: Recommend me some sparse moody instrumental music

Question: Recommend me some sparse moody instrumental music

p3t3 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:07:47 -0800

Recommend me some nice melancholic instrumental music with sparse arrangements. Maybe classical music (?), of which I know very little, but I'm thinking specifically of "Music For Egon Schiele" by Rachel's.

I know someone will bring up Erik Satie - he's okay, nice minimal classical, but sometimes too many hints of muzak and not emotional enough. I'm also practically wetting myself over the Arthur Russell instrumentals slated for release next week if that helps any.

But really I'm just tired of listening to the same Rachel's albums over and over. I would like something very similar; I love the piano/cello combination. Thanks!

By: sohcahtoa

sohcahtoa — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:11:41 -0800

excitedly watching for recommendations

By: MasonDixon

MasonDixon — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:22:52 -0800

First thing I think of as "melancholy" is Barber's Adagio for Strings, that may not be minimalist enough for you though.

By: Mocata

Mocata — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:34:46 -0800

Glenn Gould's second recording of the Goldberg Variations. Casals' version of the Bach cello suites. Moondog's Pastoral EP. Chopin's nocturnes. Brian Eno's Music for Airports. In A Silent Way.

By: cior

cior — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:36:24 -0800

Arvo Part, Fratres.

By: sauril

sauril — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:37:06 -0800

Not classical, but it does fit your "melancholic instrumental music with sparse arrangements" criteria, is Labradford, especially their more recent stuff.

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:38:13 -0800

Gastr Del Soul's The Serpentine Similar? Maybe has the same emotional problems as Satie.

How about Darius Milhaud? L'homme et Son Desir for choice, though that does have some rather exuberant moments, that might undercut the melancholy elsewhere in the piece for you.

Delius? Songs of Sunset is pretty melancholy, but it's also a bit lush, not sparse.

Maybe if you listened to all three together at once...

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:47:28 -0800

Oh duh, you said instrumental. Disregard everything (except maybe the Milhaud: it has voices, but no lyrics).

By: judith

judith — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:00:10 -0800

i'm also a rachel's fan and i'd second labradford and also stars of the lid, esp "the tired sounds of stars of the lid".

By: TheRoach

TheRoach — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:05:54 -0800

How do you feel about having some drums in your music? I know some of the Rachel's stuff has some (although obviously not "Music for Egon Schiele") - but there's plenty of great stuff when you put the drums in. I think Tarantula might be a good match, especially their first album (self-titled) - it's not really in stores, though, you basically have to get it off their website.
Let me second that recomendation for "In a Silent Way" - one of my all-time favorite Miles albums. It's basically the mood of "Kind of Blue" meets top-form Miles fusion. Here's a question for you, though - how do you feel about electronic music? There's a lot of GREAT stuff that will fit the bill, mood-wise, but isn't really instrumental. In fact, I'd say most of the closest analogues I've found to "Music for Egon Schiele" have been in electronica.

You might want to look into some of the minimalist composers as well, such as Philip Glass (Glassworks is a great place to start), Steve Reich (I absolutely adore Electric Counterpoint, which beautifully layers Pat Metheny, but a lot of people think that Music for 18 Musicians is the best place to start), or Goreki (who I don't know well enough to make a good recomendation). I was going to link directly to some of those albums, but bn.com is running awfully slowly. You probably won't love all of this, but it'll give you a good starting point.

By: p3t3

p3t3 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:08:39 -0800

Thanks. Lots of stuff that's new to me, so I won't know how on-the-mark you guys are until I have a chance to track these down. But I'm looking forward to checking these out and definitely keep the ideas coming.

By: Idiot Mittens

Idiot Mittens — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:10:25 -0800

Women of Ireland - The Chieftians

By: PinkStainlessTail

PinkStainlessTail — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:10:28 -0800

How do you feel about having some drums in your music?

posted by TheRoach

Max? That you?

By: p3t3

p3t3 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:11:00 -0800

Oh, and for TheRoach, I've been dj'ing electronic stuff for 10 years and have over 1500 slabs of vinyl - so I'm already pretty comfortable there. I was hoping to branch out into instrumental and maybe even classical stuff. Drums are okay too I guess.

By: plinth

plinth — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:13:50 -0800

The Graceful Ghost by William Bolcom.

By: beaucoupkevin

beaucoupkevin — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:18:53 -0800

Arvo Pärt's Alina and Tabula Rasa have both provided me with beautiful, sparse "classical" with plenty of strings.

There's also Ulrich Schnauss, but you know about him, I'm sure. :)

By: COBRA!

COBRA! — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:31:35 -0800

"The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly," Ennio Morricone.

By: empath

empath — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:39:21 -0800

The Bladerunner soundtrack.

By: markmillard

markmillard — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:41:48 -0800

I love

Robin Guthrie - Imperial

and

Cocteau Twins/Harold Budd - The Moon and the Melodies

By: p3t3

p3t3 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:06:31 -0800

Thanks again. I've got "In A Silent Way" on vinyl, but that may be one of the exceptions where I'd like it better on CD since it's so quiet and the vinyl is a bit crackly.

Ulrich Schnauss is nice, also Pub is a personal fav.

I had no idea Cocteau Twins did an album w/ Budd- I'm excited to hear that one.

Blade Runner has been on my want list for a while, but thanks for reminding me ;)

I have plenty of digging material for now (but more is welcome of course).

By: clockwork

clockwork — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:08:32 -0800

The Six Organs Of Admittance album "For Octavio Paz" is sparse/spacy finger-picked guitar (John Faheyesque[!?]) with minimal vocals. It's not classical, but it otherwise fits the criteria.

There's a French composer named Marin Marais who composed some really excellent viola da gamba works. I couldn't tell you which ones I've heard, but Rachel's stuff is similar. If I find out any more, I'll come back.

By: rabbitsnake

rabbitsnake — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:59:53 -0800

Max Richter's The Blue Notebooks is along the same lines, though it does have some spoken word pieces mixed low so they aren't overwhelming.

By: rodz

rodz — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:01:25 -0800

Suprised no one mentioned this yet, but Brian Eno's Music for Airports really does the trick for me. I'm a big fan of Rachel's and second or third Tarantula and Avro Part. I'm trying to read my notes on one of the CDs I keep around next to the Rachel's and it's a variety of pieces from Samuel Barber and Sibelius. In the vein of Steven Reich is John Adams, or better yet, both of them together on Loops and Verses.

By: rsanheim

rsanheim — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:45 -0800

I actually just registered to answer this after years of lurking, so...hi.

I'm amazed noone has mentioned Dirty Three yet. They make beautifully sad music with violin, guitar, and drums. I actually discovered Rachels by looking for bands similiar to Dirty Three. D3 tends to be a bit more traditional sounding then some of Rachels' stuff, and maybe a bit more rock/folk sounding then classical. Their site is here and they also have an entry on wikipedia.

I would recommend starting with "Whatever You Love, You Are", and then trying "Ocean Songs", and then moving on to the newer albums. Their latest album "Cinder" is decent, but I was disappointed by them going with shorter songs (3-4 mins) and less sprawling compositions.

I would also second "Music For Airports" and Stars of the Lid. Also, you should check out Tarentel -- get earlier LPs first as they are getting more and more experimental/abstract. Also, Godspeed You Black Emperor and Explosions in the Sky would be worth looking into, though they are more "post-rock" then classically inclined.

By: Neiltupper

Neiltupper — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:22:44 -0800

Moonlight Sonata sound exactly what you want. Beethoven, growing increasingly deaf, dedicated this to his lost love, Giulietta Guicciardi.

By: p3t3

p3t3 — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:06:02 -0800

Thanks for joining rsanheim. Always great to inspire new mefi accounts :) I actually saw the Dirty Three in concert a long time ago (maybe with Cornelius??), but I'll have to give them a listen again. I always thought Godspeed was too "hip" for me, but maybe I'll have to give them a listen anyways ;)

I have most of the Eno albums (the Apollo soundtrack might be my favorite), but thanks for those as well - we're on the right page at least. And I'm quite curious about some of the classical recommendations.

Thanks again peoples!

By: iamcrispy

iamcrispy — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:03:30 -0800

Oooh, if you like rachel's then you can't not like 'Boxhead Ensemble'.

'Scott Tuma' might also be worth a look. I'm not that keen on 'A Silver Mt. Zion' but their early work is sort of in the same area. I'd also recommend 'Tim Hecker' if you're willing to go into purely electronic territories.

I think I'll be a bit cheeky and plug my own music, too, which again is (sort of) electronic.

By: subtle-t

subtle-t — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:12:22 -0800

John Cage - in a landscape.

By: the matching mole

the matching mole — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:16:21 -0800

I've lurked here for years, but this is the thread that got me to post. I do hope I'm helpful.

I found myself in the same situation years ago -- Rachel's music whetted my apetite and I had to have more. I find it's surprisingly difficult to find honest, quiet, contemplative music.

That said, I strongly recommend the music of Roger Eno (yep, Brian's brother). "Voices" is a lovely, melancholy album, as is "Lost in Translation," but, IIRC, the latter has vocals. Roger's piece "Quixote" on the "Music for Films, Volume 3" albums is one of the most beautiful, delicate, melancholy things I've ever heard, and this album is a great introduction to artists making the kind of music you're seeking.

Roger Eno has also made music with such people as Harold Budd, Laroji, and these records are worth seeking out.

If you like a jazz sound, seek out The Ground by the Tord Gustavson Trio. This album is like listening to the sound of a warm sigh on frosted glass.

By: aeighty

aeighty — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:10:57 -0800

I second Godspeed You Black Emperor.

The song by Rachel's (linked in the original post) is vaguely trip-hop (to me at least). Thusly, I'd also recommend Royksopp and Bonobo. Also check out the "Chin chillin' Disk 1 (Get up!)" here (you can actually download it).

HTH.

By: PurplePorpoise

PurplePorpoise — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:41:30 -0800

The soundtrack to Conan the Barbarian by Basil Pouledouris. No joke.

By: hydrophonic

hydrophonic — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:04:25 -0800

Terry Riley - In C. Maybe other stuff by Bang on a Can.

By: bubukaba

bubukaba — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:47:04 -0800

My boyfriend loves Rachel's, and this is what he has to say:

I really do! Here are some things that might hit the spot:

Clogs' album "Thom's Night Out"
Red Stars Theory
Seascapes of the Interior
The Six Parts Seven

I second Tristeza, and third Stars of the Lid. I think Godspeed You! Black Emperor might be a little too busy (no pun intended) to sound sparse. Also, if you can stomach some vocals that don't take the foreground, Julie Doiron's "Julie Doiron and the wooden stars" (or anything else by her) is very good for the sad and sparse mood.

As far as classical composers go, it can be difficult to find a feel comperable to Rachel's. Many of the 19th and 20th century folk, as you might have found, tend to go for very different feels.

Try Bach's solo cello suites. Especially number 2 in d minor. All of them, even the ones in major, have a certain hopelessness about them that definitely calls Rachel's to mind, but number 2 especially does it. If you need some credentials for it, it was used in Ingmar Bergman's Through a Glass Darkly (Bergman being possibly the most depressing director of all time, this work being one of his jewels).

There was a time in the Renaissance when 'melancholia' was a very trendy thing in England. John Dowland was the chart topper of this period of the seventeenth century. If you can find pieces like "Flow, my tears," and "In darkness let me dwell," you'll see what I mean.

If you want good modern pieces that've influenced Rachel's and a few of the other people who've been mentioned, try Gorecki's Symphony No.3, the Symphony of Sorrowful Songs; or John Cage's String Quartet in 4 Parts.

Best of luck! e-mail me (halcyon at uchicago dot edu) if you'd like me to send you any of these.

By: haplesschild

haplesschild — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:39:56 -0800

Talkdemonic

By: Len

Len — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:10:37 -0800

The Stars Of The Lid are definitely a good recommendation, as are the (wonderful) Dirty Three.

p3t3, if you're getting excited about new Arthur Russell releases (thanks for the tip-off, btw; didn't know about it, and that stuff looks ace), have you heard the collaboration between Russell and Peter Zummo? 20 minute cello/trombone drone masterpiece, it's on Zummo's album Zummo With An X. Can't vouch for the rest of the album, but that track is beautiful. (If you can't get a hold of it, email the address in my profile, and I'll do you a copy.)

Also: lots of La Monte Young stuff might fit what you're after – The Volga Delta is a piece which consists solely of a bowed gong, while Raga For Ravi is a traditional Indian raga, minimalist and utterly captivating.

Not very sparse, but might fit, because it sucks you in and leaves you in an almost catatonic state: Steve Reich's Music For 18 Musicians.

By: billtron

billtron — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:50:43 -0800

Morton Feldman's orchestral stuff? Toru Takemitsu makes me relax. How about Gavin Bryars?

Not Naked City.

By: kookoobirdz

kookoobirdz — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:24:29 -0800

Well, this is only one song, not an album, but REM's "New Orleans Instrumental #1" is heartwrenchingly, sweetly sad. It makes feeling sad somehow rich and healing. It'll pull some tears right out of you if you need it and you let it. I can't figure out what the instruments even are, some kind of keyboard and something else, but I guess I'd say it's "sparse".

Also like the old Twin Peaks theme, the instrumental version. Angelo Badalamenti

By: misteraitch

misteraitch — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:28:39 -0800

The Ukrainian composer Valentin Silvestrov's work can be exquisitely sparse and moody, for example the 'Postludium' pieces on the CD Leggiero, Pesante and Kitsch-Musik on Alexei Lubimov's Pourquoi je suis si sentimental disc.

By: cgfoz

cgfoz — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 07:22:00 -0800

That Rachael's track on their site reminded my of the excellent Drive By by the Necks.

You might also want to try anything by Fourtet or Millions now living... by Tortoise

By: jdroth

jdroth — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:45:47 -0800

This may sound like an odd recommendation, but after listening to the single sample track at the Rachel's web site (a song called "Significant Others"), I am reminded of "Dido's Lament" from the opera Dido and Aeneas (sp?) by Henry Purcell. Yes, it's opera, and this has vocals, but it's even more sparse and more melancholy than the sample Rachel's track I listened to. "Dido's Lament" is a great song and worth a listen...

By: carsonb

carsonb — Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:44:04 -0800

nice melancholic instrumental music with sparse arrangements

I'll take the recommendations for the Dirty Three a step further and say that their guitarist, Mick Turner's solo work fits this bill precisely. Track 4 on Seven Angels is one of the most melancholic instrumental tracks I've ever heard. Turner's got 2 or 3 full-lengths and the aforementioned tour EP. He also works as the Tren Brothers and the Marquis de Tren (with Bonnie 'Prince' Billy, of all people, who contributes his awful voice to their recordings).

By: p3t3

p3t3 — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:09:39 -0800

Final comments for anyone coming back to this thread or searching in the future:

I finally got a chance to sit down and listen to most of the recommendations. Tons of great music mentioned, and I'm sure I'll come back to this thread whin I'm looking for more music, but for now I had a very specific sound in mind which only matched a few (I probably threw some people off by mentioing Arthur Russell too, which is not what I was looking for stylistically, he just seems to tap into that same melancholic emotion).

I think the closest match to what I was after was Bach's Cello Suite no.2 in D minor. Also the Arvo Pärt albums Alina and Tabula Rasa sounded great. Also the Clogs' Thom's Night Out, and I may end up picking up something from the Boxhead Ensemble. Oh and I like the guitarist from the Dirty Three - Mick Turner, his solo albums sound nice; will probably pick up something from him sooner or later..

Some of the others I was already familiar with (most Kranky artists), others were too post-rock-y for what I'm after at the moment, some too lush/effects-laden, etc. Everything mentioned was quality stuff, as to be expected from mefi ;) but like I said, I knew exactly what I wanted this time around and I managed to find a couple matches in there. Thanks again!