SubscribeI presume the assistant is getting tipped out by the stylist, like how a waitress tips out a busboy and bartender.I understand you don't mean to imply this, but a busboy is an unskilled worker. An assistant, at least in the states she is licensed in, is required to be licensed, which means 1200 hours of schooling and passing a state certification test.
if a stylist is utilizing her, isn't the stylist supposed to give her part of her tips?Presumably, but in practice this isn't enforced in her salon. Hopefully other stylists will chime in.
I think that some of the tipping expectations (as balance to stable salary) are starting to get a little out of hand.I couldn't agree more. However, she's interested in winning your tips. She doesn't simply expect a tip from everyone. Another way to think of it is that she wants to exceed your expectations (and those of her employer) so that the client or stylist is happy to part with their cash.
well, now I feel bad because my old hairdresser used an awesome assistant that I never tipped (because I assumed my hairdressed tipped her).If this was her personal assistant, and not a general assistant, it's probable that she was tipped out of the stylists tips. I'm beginning to believe, though, that this is a common misperception.
I didn't mean to imply unskilled worker, so mea culpa.Thanks. I didn't think you were equivocating the two, but I did want you to understand the difference. No offense was taken.
which is why I advise working on the stylist-assistant dynamic, rather than on the assistant-customer dynamic.This seemed like a real possibility to us when we were discussing it. Perhaps, over time, as stylists build a relationship with her, this will happen without the need for further intervention.
And even if you informed them, they're largely uninterested in tipping more than one person per visit, even if the assistant were the nicest, greatest person ever.This seems very intuitive. In fact, I'd be willing to go one step further. The salon my sister used to go to had little signs all over the place clearly stating that tips were not shared. Even though I understand why they chose to do this, as a customer this felt, somehow, dirty or presumptuous.
I'm embarassed to admit this, but I use a salon where literally every employee is a young, hip and attractive woman. My regular stylist is extremely attractive.To be honest, I did the same thing. Then I started shaving my head. Don't be embarassed, though, there are certain salon business models that essentially bank on this being the case. ;-)
Yeah, you can influence tipping behavior, it's part of the job. Building relationships was always part of it for me.Thank you for this thoroughly excellent and helpful comment.
I'll venture a guess that while I'm certainly not describing all the customers or even most of them, I've described a wide swath of them.Again, your insight is excellent on this. Though tipped employees may wish more people were like youcancallmeal, my fiancee's experience tells me many are similar to you. Thanks again for another helpful comment.
Then, if the stylist don't want to share tips, your gf should put out her tip jar in the wash area, or her tip envelopes in the checkout area, and work on what has been labeled upthread as an "extended goodbye" with the individual clients.I believe it's entirely possible that the stylists make the assumption that if the assistant does a good enough job, they'll get tipped directly. It's possible that some stylists take advantage of this knowingly, but I don't think it's wise to assume that your co-workers are greedy.
Seems it's not common knowledge.This thread has made that pretty clear to us, for which we are both thankful.
it probably helps that the one assigned to me for hair-washing always introduces herself with a handshake.In her first week she simply did not know that she should introduce herself. The end result was that many people did not tip, but a few left tips in envelopes without her name on it. Luckily, another assistant pointed out to her that she should introduce herself to every client. It seems obvious now, but clients can't tip without knowing your name.
When I see a woman with breast implants, I assume that she already has a healthy income, actuallyI hadn't considered this, but it, too, seems obvious. We talked about this on the way to work this morning and concluded, given their target market, breast augmentation isn't, at least in her case, likely to increase her tips. Furthermore, talking about cosmetic surgery is apparently a common topic in the salon. Clients that come in with new boobs frequently ask the salon employees to feel them. (Off topic, but that struck me as odd.)
If most of the clients are men, maybe a girl with breast implants will get bigger tips... sounds silly to me but the men will have to address that question.As silly as it sounds, this is presumed to be a given. (No offense to men intended, especially those for whom this is not true.)
2) Can your gf place a discreet sign in the line of sight of someone in the shampoo chair?No, that's not an option. However, it may be possible to casually assure informative magazines or other literature is available in the form of magazines or other light waiting room entertainment.
This probably seems really silly, but once "hair-washer girl" became "Anne-Marie," I started giving her a separate tip.As my fiancee's experience bears out, this is not only not silly, but very useful to know.
I agree with ortho on this. I absolutely hate leaving an establishment feeling embarrassed or worried that I didn't tip enough or correctly correlate kudos among those involved with my visit.That's something she's actively trying to avoid.
hope that the person taking my money divides it either according to skill, time spent, or etiquette.
why not just raise the salaries of the non-front line workers to compensateOne argument is that it takes away the incentive to work harder for tips. My fiancee was told, in explicit terms, that her salon intentionally pays all incoming assistants minimum wage in order to weed out those who don't want it. I know it sounds like an excuse, but it takes a certain passion to want to work at a salon 40+ hours a week for minimum wage when you could work at any number of salons for $15 or more an hour.
I am stunned, and never will make their patronage.I think you have misunderstood something.
I'm not going to go to a place that makes me feel uncomfortable figuring out who to tip.That's not the intention. Additionally, a client should never feel uncomfortable, no matter what their tipping habits are, even if they don't tip. It is, after all, the clients perogative and salons are a business where the client is almost always right. (Having heard stories of clients demanding a process be done to their hair after stylists explain carefully that their hair will not be able to handle the process and look worse, I can safely say that the client isn't always right, though.)
So, from my perspective, you're in a tight spot there.I don't understand why you'd say this.
I go to a single-chair men's hair only female, British hairdresser. Somewhat unique.That is reasonably unique and sounds pretty interesting. By hairdresser, a word stylists cringe at by the way, you mean "licensed cosmotologist" not "licensed barber", right?
But, again, the stylist should just tip out IMHO.That does seem like the right thing to do, but these stylists were all general assistants in the same salon. In some sense, this is their comeupance. I hope it's clear that this thread is not about juicing the clients for hit and run cash, but how to build long term, satisfying relationships with clients that are happy to tip for good service. (The same goes for stylists, but we haven't gotten in to that as of yet.)
Keep my neck/clothes dry.Funny, but true story. In her first week in the salon she was getting used to the new sinks while shampooing a client. She's standing beside the sink, which she finds uncomfortable. For whatever reason, the nozzle is slippery. It slips. And if you haven't ever seen a loose water nozzle at high pressure, well, it dances in mid air while wetting everything within a few feet. The entire salon burst out laughing, including the client and my fiancee. Apparently just about everyone does this once, so it turned out to be a real bonding experience between her and the other employees. I never asked if she got a tip.
Do a good job with the color remover. I hate walking out and finding hair dye on my face.Good point. Her salon uses a barrier cream, which should eliminate the possibility of color being on your skin. Of course, it's applied by assistants or stylists, which introduces human error and, of course, the barrier cream needs to be removed.
90% of the girls at my salon don't do these thingsThat's extraordinarily astute of you, and something I never noticed as a client. It's my fiancees opinion, seeing the behind the scenes action, that your obersvation is reasonable. In her salon, the majority of general assistants spend their time looking for work that generally earns them greater tips instead of learning how to work in a salon. This means that they spend less time doing things that are less likely earn them tips, like offering top notch service during a shampoo or a blow out.
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I tend to tip people who are friendly, smiling, and who make the whole thing relaxing. People who are legitimately interesting to have a conversation with, and are also competent at their job.
Basically, I want my hair cut by competent people who enjoy their jobs.
posted by I Love Tacos at 10:04 PM on March 10, 2006