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	<title>Comments on: How can I fax with Mac OS X?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:07:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Question: How can I fax with Mac OS X?</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X</link>	
		<description>Why am I having such difficulty sending a fax via my Mac OS X computer? There is well-advertised built-in fax functionality via CMD-P. I can receive faxes just fine in this fashion, but cannot successfully send. Could it be because my &apos;phone&apos; line is actually VOIP (Vonage)? Must be overlooking the obvious here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:01:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jeffmacintyre</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: danhon</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#526928</link>	
		<description>Probably. You need to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vonage.com/help.php?category=27&amp;nav=2&quot;&gt;activate&lt;/a&gt; fax service on Vonage residential lines. There is a one-time cost for this. Once activated, you may also have to lower the baud rate on your faxmodem.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:07:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>danhon</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Malor</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#526950</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m surprised you can even receive via Vonage.  A regular Vonage line isn&apos;t the same as a standard copper pair; instead, it&apos;s digitizing your voice and sending a VOIP stream.  That digitization process throws away a lot of the information that faxes use, so they normally don&apos;t come through.  Perhaps it throws away less data on an incoming call from a copper line??&lt;br&gt;
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What you can do, though, is get a dedicated fax line from them.  It uses the second port on your phone device.  The fax line uses a different codec that works only with faxes, so you can&apos;t use it for voice.  It doesn&apos;t support a regular modem either, much to my chagrin... I wanted to use my Vonage line to call some old BBSes that are still around, and couldn&apos;t.  &lt;br&gt;
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But it does work splendidly for faxes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:54:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Malor</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: anathema</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#526993</link>	
		<description>I have received and sent faxes from a PowerBook using both Panther and Tiger via Vonage. I do remember once having trouble sending. I don&apos;t recall having to activate anything special with Vonage. Are you sure all your Fax settings are correct?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:03:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>anathema</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: intermod</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#527027</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t have any experience with Vonage, or even directly with VoIP, but I used to be in the Telephone Via Weird Digital Technology business, and I can confirm that these technologies will usually indeed mangle fax.&lt;br&gt;
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The digitization of the audio signal (i.e. quantization, sampling, compression, etc.) is designed for voice, which means it&apos;s doing just barely enough to maintain quality just so humans won&apos;t notice the difference.  But the fax machines most certainly do notice, to the point of not syncing at all.  So in most of these systems they implement something called &quot;fax relay&quot; (at least that&apos;s what we called it) which takes the fax audio signal, converts it &lt;em&gt;back&lt;/em&gt; to actual binary data, transmits &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; via the data connection, reconverts it back to fax audio signal at the far end, and then spits that audio out to the fax machine at the other end.  It&apos;s a horribly kludged system that fails routinely, especially when you start getting latency on the circuit, such as might be introduced be, oh, a clogged internet pipe.  In my case it was satellite hops that made it suck (250 ms latency on each hop).&lt;br&gt;
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Anyway, that&apos;s not really addressing your problem, it&apos;s just background!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:49:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>intermod</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: phox</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#527030</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t add anything helpful about faxing from Mac OS, but I do have Vonage and send and receive faxes just fine without a dedicated fax line and without having to activate anything special.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:52:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>phox</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: I Love Tacos</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#527041</link>	
		<description>As yet another data point, I can&apos;t reliably send/receive faxes with Vonage.  They routinely drop after a few pages.&lt;br&gt;
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I switched to eFax.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:52:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>I Love Tacos</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jellicle</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#527044</link>	
		<description>The main key that I found to enable faxing via Vonage was to turn off V.42 error correction.  If that was on, there was about a 50-50 chance of being able to fax any given page.  If it&apos;s off, faxing worked fine.&lt;br&gt;
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V.42 just assumes a line of a higher quality than Vonage is able to provide.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:55:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jellicle</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://ask.metafilter.com/33798/How-can-I-fax-with-Mac-OS-X#527293</link>	
		<description>Try dialing *99 before the phone number.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:40:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kindall</dc:creator>
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