Comments on: The other kind of math rock.

Question: The other kind of math rock.

hydrophonic — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:52:28 -0800

Looking for songs about math! My girlfriend's sister just got into a Ph.D. program for mathematics and we're making her a mix CD to help celebrate. Poppy indie rock especially good.

I've done the song title searches on allmusic.com, and I've gone through these threads on numbers and educational songs. I've perused M.A.S.S.I.V.E. I've got Kate Bush's "Pi", Schoolhouse Rock Rocks ('natch), Modest Mouse's "Never Ending Math Equation", Kraftwerk's "Pocket Calculator", and I know about this one. What else?

By: occhiblu

occhiblu — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:55:29 -0800

It's the group name rather than the song title, but Math and Physics Club is definitely poppy indie rock; I love "When We Get Famous."

By: rachelpapers

rachelpapers — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:55:42 -0800

I'm sure They Might Be Giants will have something...

By: disillusioned

disillusioned — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:59:54 -0800

New Math by Tom Leher is the best I can think of:
(To the equation 342-173)
"You can't take three from two, two is less than three, so you look at the four in the tens place. Now that's really four tens, so you make it three tens, regroup and you change the ten to ten ones and you add them to the two and get twelve, and you take away three, that's nine."

Mentioned briefly in one of the other threads, but it's absolute necessity.

(He goes over it again in base eight towards the end. Seriously.)

Email me if you're having trouble finding it.

By: occhiblu

occhiblu — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:01:40 -0800

"One is the loneliest number" - Three Dog Night
"One and one make five" - Pet Shop Boys

By: karmaville

karmaville — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:02:29 -0800

4 out of 5 - Soul Coughing
"Her knees thrust in one direction like a symbol of math, a symbol meaning Greater Than.
I come recommended by four out of five
I'm a factor in the whole plan
Four and five therefore nine
Nine and nine therefore eighteen
Eighteen and eighteen therefore thirty-six
Four and five therefore nine"

By: lemuria

lemuria — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:10:55 -0800

(Lord It's Hard to Be Happy When You're Not) Using the Metric System - Atom & His Package

By: weapons-grade pandemonium

weapons-grade pandemonium — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:11:49 -0800

Don't know much Trigonometry
Don't know much about Algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for
But I know that one and one is two
And if this one could be with you
What a wonderful world this would be

By: nadawi

nadawi — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:20:57 -0800

damn it, lemuria! my stupid 64 megs of ram refused to load mefi any faster. i was just about to post atom and his package

By: mathowie

mathowie — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:21:05 -0800

The greatest Math song ever recorded is The Math Song by The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets (iTunes link).

When I played it for a math PhD friend, she solved for y.

By: mathowie

mathowie — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:21:46 -0800

Oh, and that band does some great tongue-in-cheek indie rock from Canada, to boot.

By: nuclear_soup

nuclear_soup — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:23:05 -0800

Never Ending Math Equation by Modest Mouse

By: Robot Johnny

Robot Johnny — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:26:50 -0800

You need "New Math" by Tom Lehrer (who happened to be a mathematician in addition to a musician)

By: The Pusher Robot

The Pusher Robot — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:27:17 -0800

Finite Simple Group (of Order Two) by the Klein Four Group (mp3, lyrics) is fantastic. They've got some others as well.

By: well_balanced

well_balanced — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:28:11 -0800

Three Is A Magic Number from Schoolhouse Rocks...also covered by Blind Melon.

By: nadawi

nadawi — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:32:38 -0800

also: Deathray Davies hailing from Dallas (if not denton), TX have a side project called "I Love Math", but good luck finding the recordings.

By: granted

granted — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:35:41 -0800

2Gether: "U + Me = Us (Calculus)"

sorry

By: joeblough

joeblough — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:36:58 -0800

God Bows To Math by The Minutemen!

By: anarcation

anarcation — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:39:46 -0800

"Adding Up Numbers" by Kompressor should work well, and maybe "5546 That's My Number" by Sublime.

Also I second Soul Coughing, and third Tom Lehrer.

By: pomchkn

pomchkn — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:46:13 -0800

Not math, so it doesn't really qualify, but you should check out "The Method" on We Are Scientists' first album. You can download it for free from nebulizemymind.com.

"I watched you watching me from labotory five.
The breathing mask and safety goggles accentuate your eyes."

By: toddshot

toddshot — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:47:52 -0800

I'm sure They Might Be Giants will have something...

You'd think so, but not really. They tend to lean more toward English/history-major nerdery than math. They do have a couple of number-related songs (Number Three, Four of Two, 32 Footsteps leap to mind), but math isn't really a component of any of those.

I'd suggest Ladytron's 'True Mathematics' and Spoon's 'My Mathematical Mind'.

By: barnacles

barnacles — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:58:24 -0800

You need Freezepop's song "Science Genius Girl". You might recognize the chorus:

"three point one four one five nine two six five three five eight nine seven nine three two three eight four six two six four three three eight three two seven nine"

By: GilloD

GilloD — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:02:40 -0800

It's 5! by the Architecture in Helsinki

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:02:50 -0800

"Inchworm," from the Hans Christian Anderson film, sung by Danny Kaye.

Two plus two is four. Four plus four is eight ...

By: solid-one-love

solid-one-love — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:03:00 -0800

"Algebra" by Soul Hooligans isn't really about math, but Algebra and Calculus are in the chorus.

"Music is Math" by Boards of Canada?

"16 Military Wives" by The Decemberists? Maybe not.

By: jodic

jodic — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:12:56 -0800

This thread might have some ideas for you too.

By: joeblough

joeblough — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:19:32 -0800

oh man, BoC! how could i forget? almost every BoC song is itself... well.. math!

_the smallest weird number_ definitely fits the bill; very self-referential as well since music70 is their label.

A is to B as B is to C is another BoC track that comes to mind.

By: gramcracker

gramcracker — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:23:25 -0800

Keith Schofield's Pi.

By: klangklangston

klangklangston — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:32:27 -0800

Murder By Numbers, by the Police
The Number One Song in Heaven by The Sparks
Sea of Numbers by Stylex
anything by either The Numbers or The Atomic Numbers
Microphone Mathematics by Quasimoto
anything by Cotton Mather (if you want to stretch it)
9 to 5 by Dolly Parton
Add It Up by the Violent Femmes
Fifty Two Percent by Glen Baxter
6/8 by Superdrag
The New Face of Zero and One by the New Pornographers
C30 C60 C90 Go! by Bow Wow Wow
My 2600 by Captain Funkaho

(I have a lot more general # songs if you're interested).

By: lazywhinerkid

lazywhinerkid — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:33:02 -0800

"Carry the Zero" by Built to Spill is a good tune.

By: themadjuggler

themadjuggler — Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:49:58 -0800

First of all, anything by the Mathematicians will work here. They're an indie pop/electronic outfit from upstate New York with members such as Pete Pythagorus and Albert Gorithim IV. Granted, they're a novelty act, but the music is real catchy and danceable!

Second of all, "Never-Ending Math Equation" is a great start!

Bikeride - "That's Math"
(this is essential - cute flute/woodblock/piano pop all about math and love)
Silver Jews - "Inside the Golden Days of Missing You"
(featuring the lyric, "what if life is just some hard equation
on a chalkboard in a science class for ghosts?")
Cass McCombs - "Subtraction"
(upbeat pop with organ)
Mark Mothersbaugh - "Hardest Geometry Problem in the World"
(from Rushmore, classical-sounding instrumental)
Clint Mansell - "Pi R Squared"
(creepy chemical brothers theme to Pi - good intro?)
Built to Spill - "Carry the Zero"
(the best actual song in this list)
The Pixies - "Distance Equals Rate Times Time"
("looking into the sun" sounds like "like an integral... SIGN!")
Jamie Lidell - "Multiply"
(retro-soul-electronic!)
The White Stripes - "Black Math"
(classroom rebellion!)
The Shins - "Your Algebra"
(creepy, hymnlike dirge from a usually peppy pop band)
65 Days of Static - "The Fall of Math"
(heavy electronic post-rock)
The Decemberists - "Of Angels and Angles"
(short cute acoustic pop guitar ditty)

Some equation ones:
Radiohead - "2 + 2 = 5"
Pavement - "5 - 4 = Unity"
Shining - "31=300=20 (It is by Will Alone I Set My Mind in Motion)"
Broken Social Scene - "Cause = Time"

Hmmm... I smell a MusicMobs playlist...

By: orthogonality

orthogonality — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:01:43 -0800

I see Tom Lehrer's "New Math" has been nominated. I hope you'll also include his "Lobachevsky".

By: themadjuggler

themadjuggler — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:05:18 -0800

I almost forgot!

Mogwai - "Sine Wave"
The Weakerthans - "Uncorrected Proofs"
Grandaddy - "Chartsengrafs"

(granted, many of these examples are more mathematical in spirit, the Mathematicians/Bikeride/Pi soundtrack excepted)

By: ori

ori — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:11:10 -0800

also

boards of canada - constants are changing
from the campfire headphase

built to spill - carry the zero
from keep it like a secret
-- a great indie rock song.

dj shadow - the number song
from endtroducing
(another great track! and great number samples)

kraftwerk - pocket calculator
a classic track
from computerworld

pet shop boys - two divided by zero
from please

By: heeeraldo

heeeraldo — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:00:38 -0800

anything by Caribou/Manitoba, aka Dan Snaith (same guy, name changed due to legalities), who happens to hold a Ph.D in math.

By: featherboa

featherboa — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:09:01 -0800

The Aislers Set - Long Division (legally downloadable for free here), it's math(s) as metaphor and totally dancable.

By: grouse

grouse — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:26:13 -0800

I think Tom Lehrer's Lobachevsky is a great song for teaching you what a math PhD is really like.

I am never forget the day I am given first original paper to write. It was on analytic and algebraic topology of locally Euclidean parameterization of infinitely differentiable Riemannian manifold.

Bozhe moi!
This I know from nothing.

By: Wolfdog

Wolfdog — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:31:00 -0800

I give you: Geek Freak (and it's free!).

By: gleuschk

gleuschk — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:45:41 -0800

Mathematics, by Mos Def
Math Prof Rock Star, by Jim's Big Ego is my own personal theme song

By: gregvr

gregvr — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:44:18 -0800

Can't believe someone would mention "Three is magic number" from Schoolhouse Rock, and not "Little twelvetoes".

Come on, people, it's about counting in base-12!

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, dek, ell, ten, "except my ten would be different from yours!"

By: purephase

purephase — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 04:55:14 -0800

Anything by Metric.

By: 23skidoo

23skidoo — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:04:41 -0800

Fuzzy Logic is a poppy song about math, as well as a self-link.

By: d-no

d-no — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:31:10 -0800

Can't believe no one's mentioned the classic Eleven Twelve. OK, so it's not so much poppy indie rock, but there might be the retro appeal.

By: misteraitch

misteraitch — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:31:36 -0800

Love and Mathematics by Broken Social Scene, and maybe the second track on Aphex Twin’s Windowlicker CD.

By: bim

bim — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:43:43 -0800

"One on One" by Hall & Oates

"Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Hailey & the Comets (an oldie)

"Eight Days a Week" by the Beatles

"Ray's Dad's Cadillac" by Joni Mitchell

Ray's dad teaches math
Zero
I'm a dunce
I'm a decimal in his class
Last night's kisses won't erase
Zero
I just can't keep the numbers in their place...

When it comes to mathematics
I got static in the attic
"No sir, nothin's clear!"
I'll be blackboard blind on Monday
Dreamin' of blue runways
On the edge of here
A little atmosphere

Congratulations to your GF on her new adventure. Good luck in the coming years.

By: webtom

webtom — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:10:49 -0800

Check out a band from Albany NY called The mathematicians. every song is about numbers!

By: cacophony

cacophony — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:26:10 -0800

Some will remember a TV show from the 80s called Square One... they had lots of 80s-style MTV music videos that were sendups or original songs. While extremely corny for a modern mix, I think you are unlikely to find any other song about combinatorics... if you can find anything at all.

Here, at least, are some realaudio files.

By: blackkar

blackkar — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:55:19 -0800

There was a "Mathlete Rap" on the Mean Girls soundtrack...

Yo, yo, yo,
All you sucka MC's ain't got nuthin' on me
Not my grades, not my life
You can't touch Kevin G

I'm a mathlete, so nerds of the earth
But forget what you heard
I'm like James Bond the Third
Sh-sh-shaken not stirred

By: Flamingo

Flamingo — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:33:53 -0800

Sifl and Olly, sockpuppets who had a show on mtv, had a stupid/funny Math Song. I have it if you're interested (email in profile).

By: wackybrit

wackybrit — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:42:41 -0800

There are lots here. Some are a bit childish, but that could be part of the fun. Also, a lot of nerdcore hip-hop is math oriented.

By: milkrate

milkrate — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:39:22 -0800

There was a mashup of Kanye West and the Beach Boys going around ("West Sounds") that had the producer, Lushlife, singing on a track ("Through the Wire", the 8th track, I think) with some clever math-terminology-laden lyrics.

By: Aknaton

Aknaton — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:51:25 -0800

Less obvious: "Patterns" by Simon and Garfunkel.

By: yankeefog

yankeefog — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:54:02 -0800

You can find the surprisingly catch "Mandelbrot Set" at Jonathan Coulton's song page.

Matthew Matics isn't quite as musically talented as Mr. Coulton, but he is undeniably mathematic. Plus, you can get his songs in Swedish.

By: ori

ori — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:06:02 -0800

(be sure to post the final tracklisting here!)

By: nimsey lou

nimsey lou — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:07:39 -0800

Zero Zero Zero! by Sam Phillips.

By: jfwlucy

jfwlucy — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:30:32 -0800

"I've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 . . . senses working overtime" by XTC

PS: Song is called "Senses Working Overtime" Seems like there might also be a hidden "X" factor in the song, if you know what I mean and I think you do.

By: cillit bang

cillit bang — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:44:20 -0800

Hilary Duff "The Math"

You're always trying to figure out
What I am all about
If you don't know what the answer is
Then just shut up and kiss

It shouldn't take forever
To put it all together

[CHORUS:]
If you can't do the math
Then get out of the equation
I am calling you back
This is * 69

Is it a minus or a plus
Does enough equal enough
If you can't do the math
Then nothing adds up
Tell me why I'm here

Sure I want someone to understand
But I don't need the stress
I'm not about being analyzed
Like it's some kind of test

Don't have to be a genius
To figure what's between us

[CHORUS]

You can spend your whole life analyzing
Justifying, quantifying, and dividing
'Till there's nothing anymore
Why don't you just close your eyes
And kiss my lips and let it go
Just let it flow
It's what I'm waiting for

Don't have to be a genius
To figure what's between us

[CHORUS 2X]

By: ilsa

ilsa — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:00:49 -0800

New Math by Tom Lehrer

18 Wheels on a Big Rig by Trout Fishing in America

Saved by Zero by The Fixx

Oopportunities by the Pet Shop Boys ("majored in mathmatics... studied at the Sorbonne....")

Adding Up Numbers by Kompressor

The entire number section of Schoolhouse Rock

that 1-2-3-4-5... 6-7-8-9-10... 11-12 song from Sesame Street.

One is the Lonliest Number by 3 Dog Night

By: Aknaton

Aknaton — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:37:53 -0800

Oopportunities by the Pet Shop Boys ("majored in mathmatics... studied at the Sorbonne....")

Doctored in math'matics, better yet. (He could've been a don.)

By: klangklangston

klangklangston — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:21:51 -0800

18 Wheels on a Big Rig was written by Heywood Banks, and his is the definitive version.

By: jenovus

jenovus — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:06:09 -0800

Hey, I didn't know 23skidoo was 15-16 Puzzle. That guy rocks, as does much of Songfight. In fact, let me recommend Puce's tribute cover of Fuzzy Logic if you want a harder rock sound.

By: ROTFL

ROTFL — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:25:48 -0800

"Numbers" by Kraftwerk -- seems even more appropriate than "Pocket Calculator," mentioned above (it's just a recitation of numbers in various languages).

Also "Let X=X" by Laurie Anderson. Not particularly about math (though the title is in the lyrics), but a groovy song nonetheless.

By: ludwig_van

ludwig_van — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:41:24 -0800

The Decemberists - "Of Angels and Angles"
(short cute acoustic pop guitar ditty)

...which has nothing to do with math.

Carry the Zero by Built to Spill is a great song, though.

By: smash

smash — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:29:33 -0800

The Butchies, "Forget Your Calculus" ("forget your calculus who will forget us")

Blue Dogs, "River Material" ("Is there nothing unpredictable something to hold on to except for math and science and all they know is true?")

By: Packy_1962

Packy_1962 — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:18:17 -0800

Science Vs. Romance (Rilo Kiley) "Zeros and Ones"
Your Algebra (The Shins)
Three is a Magic Number, My Hero Zero, Figure Eight (School House Rock)

By: ThatSomething

ThatSomething — Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:18:54 -0800

Mandelbrot Set by Jonathan coulton.

By: gleuschk

gleuschk — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 06:45:29 -0800

I have to mention Algebra Suicide; unfortunately, their music is terrible.

By: MiamiDave

MiamiDave — Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:23:16 -0800

And for when her head starts spinning from all the numbers, Jimmy Buffett says it all in Math Sux!!

By: hydrophonic

hydrophonic — Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:03:57 -0800

Thanks for your posts, everybody! Lot and lots of good stuff here.

For those keeping score at home, here are a few more we dug up:

A-Camp - Algebra
Andrew Bird's Bowl of Fire - What's Your Angle?
Andrew Bird's Bowl of Fire - Beware
Beaumont - Girls and Maths
Bruce Stringbean And The S Street Band (Sesame Street) - Born to Add
Jets to Brazil - Bad Math
Nicolette - Wicked Mathematics
Supernova - Math
Beachwood Sparks - Pi and a Bee
Todd Clark - Mathematics Don't Mean a Thing
George Clinton - Mathematics
Drive Like Jehu - New Math
Ex-Models - Other Mathematics
Tom Glazer & Dotie Evan - How Do We Measure Energy?

For the cover we, er, appropriated Hiroshi Sugimoto's photos of plaster casts of mathematical forms.